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#16617
24.3.50; REGRESSION: `C-q ?' pops up annoying *Char Help* buffer
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Reported by: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 19:17:02 UTC
Severity: minor
Merged with 17371
Found in versions 24.3.50, 24.4.50
Done: Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
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> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:38:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Cc: drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 16617 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>
> What problem did I report? "`C-q ?' pops up an annoying
> "*Char Help*" buffer." What part of that is not clear?
It's clear, I just don't agree that it's a problem. It is intended
behavior shared by many other Emacs commands.
> Why should `C-q ?' show any "help"?
Because '?' is a help character.
> Why doesn't it just insert the character `?'? `C-q w' inserts the
> character `w'. Why should `C-q ?' act differently?
For the same reason "M-x ?" triggers a different response than "M-x w".
> The FIX for this bug is to treat `?' like the ordinary printable,
> self-inserting character that it is in such contexts: `C-q'
> should simply insert `?'. End of story.
You can say this till Kingdom Come, it won't change the basic facts:
this is a very old feature, and I at least see no reason to remove it,
since Emacs behaves like that in many other commands. End of story.
> > I don't know why '?' should also be excluded
>
> It is an ordinary, printable, self-inserting character in the
> context I reported.
No, it isn't. It is a character that invokes help.
> `C-q' is SUPPOSED to insert ordinary, self-inserting characters.
And "M-x" is supposed to echo the next word, but '?' still behaves
differently there.
Just let go, Drew. You keep repeating the same arguments, and they
didn't fly the first time.
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