From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:29:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16596: 24.3.50; unable to move cursor while newsticker fetching data Resent-From: Thierry Volpiatto Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16596@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.139107740713757 (code B ref -1); Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:24:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 10:23:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40836 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W8omL-0003Zp-Vq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:23:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W8omK-0003Zh-5o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:23:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8omE-0007Qv-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:23:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8omD-0007Qr-Uj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:23:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8om7-0003ws-UQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:23:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8olz-0007NM-4v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:23:11 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]:54052) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8oly-0007Ms-ND for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:23:03 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id e16so2355206lan.40 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 02:23:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=9aEQnguXbWxsvzz2r2x36bSYScBiYzZJLKocRX3hUZY=; b=i+60KgPJPz92meyqsDJuw7ecDvLr13kx+zeSzWTpWeIpF35VPV44rI53s9KzXwtinQ bO3NYEPX154MD9DH8R7h8gmsud5CeixTpdrI7OMqyIp5aBBQ6j33NrIONssOVzHMEmIx jpTKuRlFA/okm/7l6GPlg+akPVYhzggFDH6xyV6u6wUosOyisBndDD3QpAELd687Ea41 BD09IMVeH9gi/2NFJJ6Csn51CVtY6VEwEytGyBWTBwV4Vv8b5ZvpmTN4klbICEtMguSo jVhG4r0vMKyo5TLqQUpxDOFD0oVQB+yhwIZVcFvIlhQkHqSY2m0SleEYcqzGein27faU 0iHw== X-Received: by 10.152.220.170 with SMTP id px10mr9356917lac.13.1391077381515; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 02:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dell-14z ([37.160.139.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mx3sm5790387lbc.14.2014.01.30.02.22.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jan 2014 02:23:00 -0800 (PST) From: Thierry Volpiatto Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:22:45 +0100 Message-ID: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Hi, here a big regression compared with emacs-24.3, newsticker seems to fetch its data synchronously blocking any movements in its buffer. Also I see processes still open and fetching data continuously. (I have to kill them manually) Well very different behavior compared to emacs-24.3. Here the relevant config I use for newsticker: (setq newsticker-frontend 'newsticker-plainview) (setq newsticker-retrieval-method 'extern) (setq newsticker-show-descriptions-of-new-items nil) In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit) of 2014-01-25 on dell-14z Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103000 System Description: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS Configured using: `configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-gconf --without-gsettings' Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: git-gutter-mode: t psession-mode: t global-semanticdb-minor-mode: t global-semantic-idle-scheduler-mode: t semantic-mode: t golden-ratio-mode: t winner-mode: t global-undo-tree-mode: t undo-tree-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t eldoc-in-minibuffer-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t recentf-mode: t savehist-mode: t eldoc-mode: t minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t helm-mode: t helm-descbinds-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t helm-adaptative-mode: t helm-match-plugin-mode: t helm-occur-match-plugin-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: n y y u u Q C-x c p C-u C-z C-u C-z C-u C-z C-x c p C-g M-x Recent messages: Here is not Git work tree Restoring buffers...done Old newsticker cache file exists. Read it? (y or n) y Delete old newsticker cache file? (y or n) y Newsticker started! Preparing newsticker buffer... [2 times] (New file) Saving file /home/thierry/.newsticker-cache... Wrote /home/thierry/.newsticker-cache Newsticker stopped! 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make-network-process dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting font-render-setting x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:29:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16596: 24.3.50; unable to move cursor while newsticker fetching data Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Thierry Volpiatto Cc: 16596@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16596-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16596.139111884932209 (code B ref 16596); Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 16596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 21:54:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41807 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W8zYl-0008NQ-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:54:08 -0500 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:34242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W8zYh-0008NC-GW for 16596@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:54:04 -0500 Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB46F84DA5; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9F41E5913; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 544D3B4108; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:53:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:22:45 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) > here a big regression compared with emacs-24.3, newsticker seems to > fetch its data synchronously blocking any movements in its buffer. Hmm... there hasn't been any real development on newsticker since 24.3, all the changes I see in there are "generic cleanups", so I have no idea what might have caused this change. Stefan "hoping someone else will pick this ball" From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:29:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16596: 24.3.50; unable to move cursor while newsticker fetching data Resent-From: Ulf Jasper Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Thierry Volpiatto Cc: 16596@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16596-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16596.140622943827519 (code B ref 16596); Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 16596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2014 19:17:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37037 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAOVs-00079g-NK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:17:17 -0400 Received: from mo4-p05-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([81.169.146.180]:23408) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAOVe-000790-Is for 16596@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:17:03 -0400 X-RZG-AUTH: :OWACVUW4a/MW23Dy3JvWYzB9ib5hHLJRJ2XqtRyYWgVkiE+SMu2CiYFC9+V1BTg= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Received: from p55m-ud2 (pD9E25443.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.226.84.67]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 35.2 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id D02bb6q6OJGuFPK (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate); Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:16:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Ulf Jasper References: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:16:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:22:45 +0100") Message-ID: <87zjfy5zyv.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) [Sorry for the late reply] Thierry Volpiatto writes: > Hi, > here a big regression compared with emacs-24.3, newsticker seems to > fetch its data synchronously blocking any movements in its buffer. > Also I see processes still open and fetching data continuously. > (I have to kill them manually) > Well very different behavior compared to emacs-24.3. > > Here the relevant config I use for newsticker: > > (setq newsticker-frontend 'newsticker-plainview) > (setq newsticker-retrieval-method 'extern) External retrieval should be asynchronous. So there should not be any blocking. Does this still happen? From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:29:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16596: 24.3.50; unable to move cursor while newsticker fetching data Resent-From: Ulf Jasper Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:38:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Thierry Volpiatto Cc: 16596@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16596-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16596.141667064624185 (code B ref 16596); Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:38:03 +0000 Received: (at 16596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2014 15:37:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41909 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsCkY-0006I0-6S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:37:26 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:54184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsCkW-0006Hp-8K for 16596@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:37:24 -0500 Received: from p55m-ud2 ([217.226.73.186]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M7bYJ-1Y7H1R3O6R-00xIns; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:37:22 +0100 From: Ulf Jasper References: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjfy5zyv.fsf@web.de> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:37:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zjfy5zyv.fsf@web.de> (Ulf Jasper's message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:16:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87mw7jp7pp.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:dK+E2xXrgbBFfjzv3L6mpgXk9wAmU465ENghIvBU6DC3Q682CeQ HfVhGe1dhEoMqBtzBw9MPTih3Yxs+LLBzR8tadnJznoioKjOnhs5jtk/FK3EOxdNPKaSGFT oynTtJXO71Ke03JoL6P8JRedbnhhKf88s5EOV+5JWqwVtztevnwtXTXJXJ86/Ez770qpG2O Qmvh92l+QLgoP6CiU68lw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) I still cannot reproduce this problem. Neither with 24.4 nor with trunk. Do you still see the problem? From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:29:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16596: 24.3.50; unable to move cursor while newsticker fetching data In-Reply-To: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Ulf Jasper Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16596 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Thierry Volpiatto Cc: 16596-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 16596@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16596-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16596.14582404333025 (code B ref 16596); Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 16596) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Mar 2016 18:47:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51404 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agcwz-0000mi-G6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:47:13 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:57542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agcwx-0000mN-NQ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:47:12 -0400 Received: from p55m-ud2 ([217.226.64.54]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lb25F-1ZwWTx1h4D-00kfZv; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 19:47:04 +0100 From: Ulf Jasper References: <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjfy5zyv.fsf@web.de> <87mw7jp7pp.fsf@web.de> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 19:47:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87egb9j61j.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:P/YsiJZ7yqPeoXu8PJ6tZxwR3DIf/8sJJs5DizK/c9cx+ShWCOy jN4NB8fS7T7UfZx3Y2KCfTFtxh9E+2d6R07Hj7GHmWuO+1cCFMyorB5xBMug2zSUHZa/Txv HeKx3Oqd8e8L3nIZtrGklqTmcxsqFc2gG3PRi1HQrbGIGW0Lhfz6YS6BP3S4MSwngzEoRuD YzVqUMPB7PbX4v8d96nhQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:X+zKxJk6050=:iVMN4F+kiXdBMDjBo8Lzvl /2lJ9wxPHnPHDrZbB/2lr6UzCTfQmzC+xH6cD48GGqy8h7ST1Gg92NyX8v+rSI+0hQl00+cJd JKkrR6DYFZXVc/kLhjCuDJzDpoq5LwjBpVCJa32Hk9fiR/EyUPjuyLh7vewGzBoMNT9bdLYIQ /87h7a0U9w3EaOuZ9oO6G74n/F0LVOC94S8YjuIP0rjcyC6SHwCs2Mw0ii/uZoKCXvVOGbbtv UW2tZxXmUC3ejqB7pb+lMPB9XItpmwqftYwA8Ts6CptiFL3DS0ORYUcRD+Etr9Qn/1BSCUXdx +xBGtjUxEmDSX9MZSlvG3Y2JTUB+Q49NnET5GFdyX9PjVI75rKAacqQdOsKTeWQ/SbO7UbB16 zD/whTyDMNCmA4tc8jXF9nF18XNJ7YDw7FAVNsjilwCK4dyCURFyfvr2l/zbW0ae1CxUwAJcZ nyDspFbB7kFn5/ze1lytAoaxyAxf1Wmpk2X8U52dTul/n3ooFvEfkoyGcStoI42bCWBHzpuRq Ibf8XUXhohQt2WOf/zO6JKs4cTIOvugPoXSZhKyEJykui2OEIWg+yGVmW2Q+2Qo3alxsu5IE8 sE9tq660YqiHKSObAXOcdinBicTqlq/Bd3c6a4hNOXE7u/+aMWkJUSzH20OgtUea7CwkmYzff ik+iw3v+Yq4ebcjshJNAaAyP8GPKP4iwhSELNJeYZHbdgfFTldXCrzm8ESTijuKlwujKBM+Nf SeF7G0hYuIkZpH6fgpmQstgJFGNxBl+87MU05t1XWRnfy93+18//kNeQ0S5DEjx93xz82SZ9q ZfWBWdQ X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Am 22.11.2014 um 16:37 (+0100) schrieb Ulf Jasper: > I still cannot reproduce this problem. Neither with 24.4 nor with > trunk. > > Do you still see the problem? Apparently not. Closing. From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:29:33 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: bug#16596: closed (Re: bug#16596: 24.3.50; unable to move cursor while newsticker fetching data) Message-ID: References: <87egb9j61j.fsf@web.de> <8761p1hiq2.fsf@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 16596 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 16596@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:48:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1458240482-3093-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1458240482-3093-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #16596: 24.3.50; unable to move cursor while newsticker fetching data which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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Neither with 24.4 nor with > trunk. > > Do you still see the problem? Apparently not. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Hi, here a big regression compared with emacs-24.3, newsticker seems to fetch its data synchronously blocking any movements in its buffer. Also I see processes still open and fetching data continuously. (I have to kill them manually) Well very different behavior compared to emacs-24.3. Here the relevant config I use for newsticker: (setq newsticker-frontend 'newsticker-plainview) (setq newsticker-retrieval-method 'extern) (setq newsticker-show-descriptions-of-new-items nil) In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit) of 2014-01-25 on dell-14z Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103000 System Description: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS Configured using: `configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-gconf --without-gsettings' Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: fr_FR.UTF-8 value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: git-gutter-mode: t psession-mode: t global-semanticdb-minor-mode: t global-semantic-idle-scheduler-mode: t semantic-mode: t golden-ratio-mode: t winner-mode: t global-undo-tree-mode: t undo-tree-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t eldoc-in-minibuffer-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t recentf-mode: t savehist-mode: t eldoc-mode: t minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t helm-mode: t helm-descbinds-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t helm-adaptative-mode: t helm-match-plugin-mode: t helm-occur-match-plugin-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: n y y u u Q C-x c p C-u C-z C-u C-z C-u C-z C-x c p C-g M-x Recent messages: Here is not Git work tree Restoring buffers...done Old newsticker cache file exists. Read it? (y or n) y Delete old newsticker cache file? (y or n) y Newsticker started! Preparing newsticker buffer... [2 times] (New file) Saving file /home/thierry/.newsticker-cache... Wrote /home/thierry/.newsticker-cache Newsticker stopped! 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