From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:10:43 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#16400 <16400@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#16400 <16400@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode Reply-To: bug#16400 <16400@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 01:10:43 +0000 retitle 16400 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode reassign 16400 emacs submitter 16400 Matthias Meulien severity 16400 wishlist tag 16400 patch wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 08 03:12:43 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2014 08:12:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41991 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W0oFm-0001oS-Ms for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:12:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W0oFi-0001oH-Vu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:12:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0oFh-0000dE-4W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:12:38 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0oFh-0000d8-1I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:12:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58506) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0oFf-0006yB-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:12:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0oFd-0000ca-AL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:12:35 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]:37729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0oFc-0000cR-VB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:12:33 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id l18so188207wgh.5 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 00:12:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=2KSJEFlYojUn23MDunaN4ZvBKG78kSLzv7WpV9Ij9sE=; b=EP9a1fzYLdiBJxVwdDWkpJ6O6Qo7+TnzqmNAlu1jY8wEvHvrBaASKr/W/EZFk7lOM3 OEYsOLwRQvDg97EQLaoNqImmQZIrFxVOhThXqsanOvxOcCELjWv2eUDC1WcouW/iAIp2 /ZPRJpT0B4qNEFYmYWufvQDq0UWo/b4YYe/+48rTiVX0u5DF88ExPQae0nZTcdoShp+e GniuvgCLcBrBLxJxrULBX0hKTpGsgt0CQ31FGsaESXnyrwjjGeWKHVt5TpWyeMOsRdxF gJ8CIMeds9x58PV0MqaSf6Uk+GgK58PG19iR4fmnHJ8dp/DgfPK9g48QZmr8pJdW6ywL ZTaw== X-Received: by 10.194.78.79 with SMTP id z15mr40828519wjw.15.1389168751828; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 00:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from choubidou.localdomain ([2a01:e35:2ef1:4540:e2b9:a5ff:fe0b:e998]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fa6sm7682386wid.1.2014.01.08.00.12.30 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Jan 2014 00:12:30 -0800 (PST) From: Matthias Meulien To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A simple usability improvment... --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-lisp-menu-bar.el-Add-entry-for-Global-Auto-Revert-mo.patch >From e71cd3f7f52469806ab7ecd4318204a36f495576 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Matthias Meulien Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:35:05 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] lisp/menu-bar.el: Add entry for Global Auto Revert mode --- lisp/menu-bar.el | 6 ++++++ 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) diff --git a/lisp/menu-bar.el b/lisp/menu-bar.el index 0b69d4e..b2f5a40 100644 --- a/lisp/menu-bar.el +++ b/lisp/menu-bar.el @@ -1205,6 +1205,12 @@ mail status in mode line")) (bindings--define-key menu [cursor-separator] menu-bar-separator) + (bindings--define-key menu [global-auto-revert-mode] + (menu-bar-make-mm-toggle + global-auto-revert-mode + "Revert buffers on files changes" + "Toggle Global Auto Revert mode")) + (bindings--define-key menu [save-place] (menu-bar-make-toggle toggle-save-place-globally save-place -- 1.8.5.2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.6) of 2014-01-06 on choubidou Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11405000 Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LANG: fr_FR.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Shell Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t show-paren-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-auto-complete-mode: t global-semantic-mru-bookmark-mode: t global-semanticdb-minor-mode: t global-semantic-idle-scheduler-mode: t semantic-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t icomplete-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t auto-insert-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: t e r C-x k y g i t SPC c l o g SPC - 3 g i t SPC c h e c k o u t SPC m a s s t e r g i t SPC r e v b r a n c h SPC - d SPC r e v e r t M-p M-b C-b D g i t SPC c h e c k o u t SPC - d b SPC a t u a u t o - r e v e r t g i t SPC c h e c k o u t SPC d e v l m e n u g i t SPC c l o g SPC - 3 C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n M-b C-SPC C-e M-w C-x o C-x o C-x o M-> g i t SPC c h e c k o u t SPC a u t o - r e v e r t g i SPC t SPC c h e r C-c M-r C-e SPC C-y M-b g i t SPC f o r C-c M-r C-e g i t SPC m m v SPC 0 0 ~ / P r e m p a C-x o g p o C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-x o M-x r e p o r t SPC b e m Recent messages: Trash D [2 files] (y or n) y Trashing...100% Kill buffer of 0001-lisp-progmodes-prog-mode.el-Add-custom-options-to-mo.patch, too? 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10 Jan 2014 04:56:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44588 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1U8t-0007yK-AQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:56:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1U8r-0007yA-Lp for 16400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:56:21 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W1U8r-0004KW-9F; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:56:21 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Matthias Meulien Subject: Re: bug#16400: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode References: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: blackjack brigand CDC quarter military New World Order X-Ran: 9HzZbGI!s>ag%K:~e;iK!_.2T%>K+Zbw",(9KQXZ3CMrd|(q(sT8'XLks0|xO+k_y$aO%G X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:56:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> (Matthias Meulien's message of "Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:12:29 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16400 Cc: 16400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Matthias Meulien wrote: > + (bindings--define-key menu [global-auto-revert-mode] > + (menu-bar-make-mm-toggle > + global-auto-revert-mode > + "Revert buffers on files changes" > + "Toggle Global Auto Revert mode")) Thanks for the patch. Personally, however, I do not think this option is important enough to be in the Options menu. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 10 09:45:26 2014 Received: (at 16400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2014 14:45:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44888 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dKw-0001tL-0t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:45:26 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:33172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W1dKu-0001tD-Mt for 16400@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:45:24 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFxKG9/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh8BBVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiCTBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFxKG9/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh8BBVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiCTBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="44641201" Received: from 69-196-161-189.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.161.189]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 10 Jan 2014 09:45:23 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AC4396045A; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:45:23 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#16400: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode Message-ID: References: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:45:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:56:21 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16400 Cc: 16400@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthias Meulien X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >> + (bindings--define-key menu [global-auto-revert-mode] >> + (menu-bar-make-mm-toggle >> + global-auto-revert-mode >> + "Revert buffers on files changes" >> + "Toggle Global Auto Revert mode")) > Personally, however, I do not think this option is important enough to > be in the Options menu. I wonder how many people enable global-auto-revert-mode and how well it works when you have a couple hundred file buffers. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 13 03:52:47 2014 Received: (at 16400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2014 08:52:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48356 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2dGJ-0001uI-4d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 03:52:47 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com ([209.85.212.172]:47797) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2dGF-0001u7-Sv for 16400@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 03:52:44 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id en1so1865037wid.17 for <16400@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:52:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=jh1EGV2I/yKQEfiMLGZxumFTcnmMjg1uBCD0/xu3H+Y=; b=HGpXtHLVFMcZZZItPD2+KQsjl6yua6rAC5QE61qMowcma6gYlCrn/acRs37HajXTSZ qGHKCkDGVzLxrMwSe8QJ/tX5OVEQtYmA7JEwN2k83vRV5eDYxRnmkOjZlIRIvCYX/4Up 1OSRUa00KWm+0Mk/gRIDtjzWnZxkvBSWtDEk53OoTu02K5t5vHiFhA6uen5RCgHWSP2b oKgGvYJptL7O+0Q8dDM+6j67WcDtbrI2qgDGAC8nOwIxj1OhzRboLqFmOYzEoFkY1soR KEGTxxdsXfswYg0DhKjSrDyxttLt7Hieav4teZ5mmgMHqgiwC0GGMcqzb6WhhoMrx/px 6IDA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.78.210 with SMTP id d18mr20916343wjx.27.1389603162772; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.198.69 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:52:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:52:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#16400: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode From: Matthias Meulien To: Stefan Monnier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfcecb6e5596304efd6329a X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16400 Cc: Glenn Morris , 16400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --047d7bfcecb6e5596304efd6329a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I wonder how many people enable global-auto-revert-mode I don't know. But the idea was to make `global-auto-revert-mode' more visible (like `saveplace' and `uniquify') for people to know it exits... And may be turn it on... Having a menu entry (checked or not) is also a way to display the mode status. > and how well it works when you have a couple hundred file buffers. > I have turned it on years ago and never sees any problem (working with 24.3.1 on Windows and Linux). That said, one can customize `global-auto-revert-mode' to turn that mode on; So don't waste time with that patch. -- Matthias --047d7bfcecb6e5596304efd6329a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wonder how many people enable global-auto-revert-mode =

I don't know. But the idea was to make `global-auto= -revert-mode' more visible (like `saveplace' and `uniquify') fo= r people to know it exits... And may be turn it on...

Having a menu entry (checked or not) is also a way to displa= y the mode status.
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and how well it works when you have a couple hundred file buffers.
I have turned it on years ago and never sees any problem (worki= ng with 24.3.1 on Windows and Linux).

That said, one can = customize `global-auto-revert-mode' to turn that mode on; So don't = waste time with that patch.
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Matthias
--047d7bfcecb6e5596304efd6329a-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 13 09:38:18 2014 Received: (at 16400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2014 14:38:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48651 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2ieg-0005nP-25 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:38:18 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:61966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2iec-0005nF-Lx for 16400@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:38:15 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCoyj/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0QAROIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCoyj/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0QAROIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="44823169" Received: from 76-10-140-163.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.140.163]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 13 Jan 2014 09:38:13 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 82BEF60592; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:38:13 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Matthias Meulien Subject: Re: bug#16400: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode Message-ID: References: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:38:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Matthias Meulien's message of "Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:52:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16400 Cc: Glenn Morris , 16400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >> and how well it works when you have a couple hundred file buffers. > I have turned it on years ago and never sees any problem (working with > 24.3.1 on Windows and Linux). Does your usage pattern make your Emacs sessions grow to include many open files (not necessarily displayed), like more than a hundred? > That said, one can customize `global-auto-revert-mode' to turn that mode > on; So don't waste time with that patch. I'm curious, because I assumed that global-auto-revert-mode would be impractical for "serious" use because it makes Emacs poll the freshness of every buffer's file repeatedly, which could lead to occasional "short freezes" and other annoying performance artifacts. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 13 09:57:41 2014 Received: (at 16400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2014 14:57:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2ixP-0007bk-K0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:57:40 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f173.google.com ([74.125.82.173]:37590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2ixK-0007bX-VJ for 16400@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:57:35 -0500 Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id t60so6687889wes.18 for <16400@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:57:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zLlVdWKFrys8h7DM6Va3mbJcLoUYHQ6ED5SH2PzSyrE=; b=eYyT7VygFsd1CuZlEtxVcALv9Rs1deiJIjSMHKa7TSLp/JknnbjPS0385b2lFH6kw4 CT0rdNxtc8Pc9FwZ9MzzEap2lmNOoC2KqJ+2J7au3nBysXg4xA0RTBdjjHx7obQ8yPQf 2JkNbw9ekR4CZFa4luQffT0F5EMQ2dKTnuvAGuW3BdwIPKB1YAq0AHyXWXv7AP6s8LJt JjHE6fw37MwiqSZq3WRTDLmF1h428bNrR+3ouhuaWaDRUefyZdrn31JljF8zpfCwvHwR 9sjb/G8zhN7cu6GyVLnuWzZiTvSRPWYj4gGHIXmUyci9ex4A5OXcBiICZWJg5QCwja2B sW6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.14.231 with SMTP id s7mr15701248wic.1.1389625053776; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:57:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.198.69 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 06:57:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:57:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#16400: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode From: Matthias Meulien To: Stefan Monnier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040fa004b3915804efdb4bab X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16400 Cc: Glenn Morris , 16400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --f46d040fa004b3915804efdb4bab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am usually working with fifty to hundred open files at the same time in Emacs. Not more, at least on a regular basis. I experienced crash (Windows only) from time to time (one per month ?) but my feeling was that they were related to `flymake-mode' (I use it for CSS, Python and Javascript) in relation with `semantic'. Never thought it was related to `global-revert-mode'. I have read that the time stamp check was aborted when the user actually use Emacs and the documentation of autorevert.el says: "You should never even notice that this package is active". My experience and feeling is that the documentation is right. Note that I also turn Auto Revert Tail Mode on log files (based on their extensions) and I am not aware of any problem with that. -- Matthias --f46d040fa004b3915804efdb4bab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am usually working with fifty to hundred = open files at the same time in Emacs. Not more, at least on a regular basis= .

I experienced crash (Windows only) from time to time (one pe= r month ?) but my feeling was that they were related to `flymake-mode' = (I use it for CSS, Python and Javascript) in relation with `semantic'. = Never thought it was related to `global-revert-mode'.

I have read that the time stamp check was aborted when the user a= ctually use Emacs and the documentation of autorevert.el says: "You sh= ould never even notice that this package is active". My experience and= feeling is that the documentation is right.

Note that I also turn Auto Revert Tail Mode on log files (based o= n their extensions) and I am not aware of any problem with that.
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--f46d040fa004b3915804efdb4bab-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 13 10:18:47 2014 Received: (at 16400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2014 15:18:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2jHq-0008Ed-JK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:18:47 -0500 Received: from ptmx.org ([178.63.28.110]:59231) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W2jHn-0008ER-QD for 16400@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:18:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F0B24DB0; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:18:42 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ptmx.org Received: from ptmx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptmx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5aecWJPF1yOX; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:18:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from descartes.localnet (chello080108246092.7.14.vie.surfer.at [80.108.246.92]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B62F922B4B; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:18:40 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#16400: 24.3.50; [PATCH] Add menu entry for Global Auto Revert mode Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:18:35 +0100 Message-ID: <3204989.Wu88oFo8R8@descartes> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.3 (Linux/3.11.0-14-generic; KDE/4.11.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <87k3earixe.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16400 Cc: 16400@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthias Meulien , Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On Monday 13 January 2014 09:38:13 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > That said, one can customize `global-auto-revert-mode' to turn that= mode > > on; So don't waste time with that patch. >=20 > I'm curious, because I assumed that global-auto-revert-mode would be > impractical for "serious" use because it makes Emacs poll the freshne= ss > of every buffer's file repeatedly, which could lead to occasional "sh= ort > freezes" and other annoying performance artifacts. It should make a huge difference if file notifications are available or= not. Regards, R=C3=BCdiger From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 23 22:31:17 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 03:31:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42020 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYQAX-0007Gr-HE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:31:17 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYQAV-0007F1-PN for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:31:16 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aYQA9-0007CN-3k for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 04:30:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:30:49 +1100 Message-Id: <87twkylr86.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #16400 X-MailScanner-ID: 1aYQA9-0007CN-3k X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456889454.41496@qPfAgPhTlBowbOuiJpwL1w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 16400 wontfix close 16400 From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:10:43 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator