From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:16:26 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#16354 <16354@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#16354 <16354@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' Reply-To: bug#16354 <16354@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:16:26 +0000 retitle 16354 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M= -o' reassign 16354 emacs submitter 16354 Drew Adams severity 16354 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 05 14:30:33 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2014 19:30:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36728 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VztP6-0006OE-KZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:30:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VztP2-0006O4-Ho for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:30:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VztOs-0002SL-49 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:30:28 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:47142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VztOs-0002SH-1a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:30:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45528) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VztOj-0000lY-Ag for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:30:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VztOa-00029E-OJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:30:09 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:28639) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VztOa-00029A-Ho for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 14:30:00 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id s05JTwwd030400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 19:29:59 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s05JTvtJ025788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 19:29:58 GMT Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s05JTvUs011877 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 19:29:57 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:29:51 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) dired-x.el has bound `M-o' to `dired-omit-mode', which is a toggle, since Time Immemorial. The facemenu commands were originally on prefix key `M-g'. Someone later had the bright idea to change `M-g' to prefix "go to" commands. And so, presumably without too much reflection about Dired X, facemenu commands were moved to prefix key `M-o'. So now you cannot put font-lock- or face-related commands on prefix `M-o' in Dired, if you also use Dired X (which you should, of course). `M-o' makes much more sense as a prefix key than as a toggle key. I propose that we change the Dired X binding of `dired-omit-mode' to `C-x M-o'. Or to some other not-easily-repeatable key. This toggle does not need to be a quick key to use, at all. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-01-01 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 115827 eggert@cs.ucla.edu-20140101192741-bi5hb4xb4kdi2zpw Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib CPPFLAGS=3D-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 05 20:06:11 2014 Received: (at 16354) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 01:06:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37395 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzydv-0008QN-CU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:06:11 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com ([209.85.220.50]:41425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzydt-0008QF-1o for 16354@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:06:10 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id kp14so16086852pab.37 for <16354@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:06:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=R6V7DcJTCxyCq9ji0Q5GaTUlFCwSCCwZAdV3wnfW/C0=; b=cWMQJk/qOBKa8336XC/k4eR1CAp/npKvIH1uXcWp/cpxSXg6EePnbkD+tCQZ3znbQF mk4y36FXKIv5SbjyeT7MNQh41DIhTX677imNgWrUd4xvGR08o0Pkf+OC//0k9mZG5ffw rkxHqIQAKp0MlF6Pgq8zMtoSBAZi0e+0vcXbp5j9li02tl8q9U2Z9DnwVUgKNFR3sMOq oZclkzLWdyOlB7YyMH2ahdJUtZZEF9Rq4KHjvlNeZWJ6Iq88VG1mg84EpBDlwth71hAb E8Jipt3PrGefSuHQUw5knSK7W30pHcN2os4GAxZQK9xYRyHHLrtJCu2XAvBbo6EWokiW KHxQ== X-Received: by 10.69.18.234 with SMTP id gp10mr118705214pbd.105.1388970368281; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([221.220.128.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id om6sm124499118pbc.43.2014.01.05.17.06.06 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:06:07 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Liu To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#16354: 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' References: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAMFBMVEUaFRZLMy1dTENxVzKQ WiCrXQ97cmO/dSqSh3akjGTApXy5sJ7Sxo/Sz8Xo6eP9//xJbkruAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlw SFlzAAACxQAAAsUBidZ/7wAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMJOwHXewoAAAIBSURBVCjPVdNBiNNAFADQ6J4F x3hThHZBBC+WCFI8SS0iezRDcMHLHkLAg6gJH/fgYQ9xYlj2sLK4KHgqCgXFhda2Idmr4kkQPZQ0 nkQMbTypbMmMM2m7ZgYSmMef/5OZPwo7HFnx3uKPcmj0Dht1LWZJ+Hvr7dIFZXRUwl9VRTuuKDJ+ U44gjscknK4hhJaCkYRsWjmBtLqXlJAG2wipNe18OZJu1BBq1E8xafl4s6Jq2mUZGftU1y7CCxnp FVUDWJXx4C66BKBnErbuoaYNtoRTu6EZBsCbMn7W+5qOAR6WvxNOby9jHWC9hAf3n304CdiAByXs 3Nh9roLDkyb/sWV712vYwaLSAn8CPMHIAAzOPDKP2COAFm4Y4ODVWc6xG7KXsN7UeUJjjimx2uwd gCgNhr0i8C/xyCD5CiCKAMY3Bf5oDzx//w/fimscdcAZU2jv9sedx6+nYPPFIoWI/GK6QZ+EFGOR ErAjCnV3vPZ7XqlTIMbOLY7fLcvvmT7rXNWaGDexIY44N12TG2PDp7vqyl57dnCeuWwyNpnEURxk fTbDYeBnKRn4oejPYI4sH6WviBumEZ/GxX4X/x6EcURFZ7E071bjQGAxpcOAEOJuTiroDEea5Szv rVWLYfl7ZiQwSUToxrkux7OLixAWGz22+HIyWTRYcVfomOwvzusfjtVIGgLHf3MAAAAASUVORK5C YII= Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 09:06:01 +0800 In-Reply-To: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:29:51 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.9.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16354 Cc: 16354@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) On 2014-01-06 03:29 +0800, Drew Adams wrote: > I propose that we change the Dired X binding of `dired-omit-mode' to > `C-x M-o'. Or to some other not-easily-repeatable key. This toggle > does not need to be a quick key to use, at all. This seems like a good proposal. In general it is a bad idea to shadow a prime global key without good reasons. BTW, do you think C-x C-o delete-blank-lines similar to the omit mode which delete uninteresting lines? If so may be use C-x C-o? Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 05 23:07:19 2014 Received: (at 16354) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 04:07:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W01TC-00051Y-Re for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:07:19 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:9759) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W01TA-00051O-VU for 16354@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:07:17 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAJABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEgiu5CoNZF3OCHgEBBAFWIxALDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IPAS-Result: AsAJABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEgiu5CoNZF3OCHgEBBAFWIxALDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="44165128" Received: from 184-175-11-38.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([184.175.11.38]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 05 Jan 2014 23:07:16 -0500 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 129A0AEA58; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 23:07:16 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Leo Liu Subject: Re: bug#16354: 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' Message-ID: References: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:07:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2014 09:06:01 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: >> I propose that we change the Dired X binding of `dired-omit-mode' to >> `C-x M-o'. Or to some other not-easily-repeatable key. This toggle >> does not need to be a quick key to use, at all. > This seems like a good proposal. In general it is a bad idea to shadow a > prime global key without good reasons. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: >> I propose that we change the Dired X binding of `dired-omit-mode' to >> `C-x M-o'. Or to some other not-easily-repeatable key. This toggle >> does not need to be a quick key to use, at all. > This seems like a good proposal. In general it is a bad idea to shadow a > prime global key without good reasons. [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [206.248.154.181 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t >> I propose that we change the Dired X binding of `dired-omit-mode' to >> `C-x M-o'. Or to some other not-easily-repeatable key. This toggle >> does not need to be a quick key to use, at all. > This seems like a good proposal. In general it is a bad idea to shadow a > prime global key without good reasons. Indeed, I find the "conflicts with global M-o binding" to be very weak, but the I see no reason for dired-omit-mode to have a short key-binding, so C-x is perfectly fine for it. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 06 00:07:18 2014 Received: (at 16354-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 05:07:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W02PG-0006cV-BL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 00:07:18 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-f177.google.com ([209.85.192.177]:41027) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W02PE-0006cL-2m for 16354-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 00:07:16 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id q10so17630082pdj.36 for <16354-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:07:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=JSaTOk6/o7sc7KnZJMGvzZgOuDQNxx+zqM4Ydi0TrJo=; b=Sh4fRjokDzTNqlDsLuRdGc38miQFDKW91pACeNT4P85ZdTTcVdKAaXTab0VGi9pnGj ozZxPuEJ1c0SomxUA985rapyT4RtFo7dSrqyISHhJaOQlIuQ/J0C8nh8NFpiEl2XJuDT J2FFJsAX/EnCAHneA7LD5lPF4YOCxJCdkQDelTjMajFCz3g/0KcGTQpqx1Kl0BiTIZA0 l385hPlAsYHOJWlsSPesFoRi/TQBn5JE+MaxLgcmc2nJORBbBj0cjimdBHtjbLarfFSV h+/BKGrsO8IkgpPIWuK1YnG629dBR0O73AaGI0TKkP70qFScU4IwocNb0jLjm1YsstXl 0r/w== X-Received: by 10.68.196.69 with SMTP id ik5mr122498622pbc.132.1388984834912; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([221.220.128.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jp3sm588410pbc.36.2014.01.05.21.07.12 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Jan 2014 21:07:14 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Liu To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#16354: 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' References: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:07:08 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2014 23:07:16 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.9.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Fixed in 24.4. On 2014-01-06 12:07 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed, I find the "conflicts with global M-o binding" to be very weak, > but the I see no reason for dired-omit-mode to have a short key-binding, > so C-x is perfectly fine for it. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Fixed in 24.4. On 2014-01-06 12:07 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed, I find the "conflicts with global M-o binding" to be very weak, > but the I see no reason for dired-omit-mode to have a short key-binding, > so C-x is perfectly fine for it. [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.192.177 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (sdl.web[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Fixed in 24.4. On 2014-01-06 12:07 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed, I find the "conflicts with global M-o binding" to be very weak, > but the I see no reason for dired-omit-mode to have a short key-binding, > so C-x is perfectly fine for it. OK, I rebound it to C-x M-o as suggested by Drew. Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 06 02:08:59 2014 Received: (at 16354) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 07:08:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W04Iz-0001ck-Fq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 02:08:58 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35971) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W04Ix-0001cc-6y for 16354@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 02:08:55 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id s0678rLm007375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:08:54 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0678q7Q026961 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:08:53 GMT Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0678q1R001700; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:08:52 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 23:08:45 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Leo Liu Subject: RE: bug#16354: 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' References: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16354 Cc: 16354@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) > This seems like a good proposal. In general it is a bad idea to > shadow a prime global key without good reasons. >=20 > BTW, do you think C-x C-o delete-blank-lines similar to the omit > mode which delete uninteresting lines? If so may be use C-x C-o? That would be OK too, IMO. [FWIW, so far I happen to use C-x C-o for `occur-by-moccur', and I think others might too (it is suggested in the `color-moccur.el' commentary), but this is not important.] From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 06 04:47:59 2014 Received: (at 16354) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 09:47:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W06ms-0006IG-5C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 04:47:58 -0500 Received: from [69.163.184.122] (port=36294 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W06mp-0006I1-MF for 16354@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 04:47:55 -0500 Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.184.122]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7C630147F0F6; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 01:47:54 -0800 (PST) From: Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#16354: 24.3.50; `M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' Organization: JURTA References: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:42:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 5 Jan 2014 11:29:51 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87ppo5cuqc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > dired-x.el has bound `M-o' to `dired-omit-mode', which is a toggle, > since Time Immemorial. The facemenu commands were originally on > prefix key `M-g'. dired-x.el solves a similar problem for the conflicting key M-g by using the upper-case G: [...] Content analysis details: (2.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16354 Cc: 16354@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > dired-x.el has bound `M-o' to `dired-omit-mode', which is a toggle, > since Time Immemorial. The facemenu commands were originally on > prefix key `M-g'. dired-x.el solves a similar problem for the conflicting key M-g by using the upper-case G: [...] Content analysis details: (2.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS > dired-x.el has bound `M-o' to `dired-omit-mode', which is a toggle, > since Time Immemorial. The facemenu commands were originally on > prefix key `M-g'. dired-x.el solves a similar problem for the conflicting key M-g by using the upper-case G: (define-key dired-mode-map "\M-G" 'dired-goto-subdir) so doing the same we could use upper-case M-O for dired-omit-mode. Actually dired-x.el already uses the upper-case O for the related command: (define-key dired-mode-map "*O" 'dired-mark-omitted) But before taking M-O into use it should be tested to work in emacs -nw without problems. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 06 05:52:09 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 10:52:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37850 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W07my-00085H-JO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 05:52:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W07mw-000858-Cd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 05:52:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W07mq-00025n-9T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 05:52:05 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W07mq-00025j-0W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 05:52:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35661) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W07mk-0005CE-Cg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 05:51:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W07me-00024T-Gp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 05:51:54 -0500 Received: from four.schnuerpel.eu ([2a01:4f8:120:9382::145]:43267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W07me-00024E-9r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 05:51:48 -0500 Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moderators.schnuerpel.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8DCE803 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 11:51:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 37415 invoked by uid 8); 6 Jan 2014 10:51:43 -0000 To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Path: not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Subject: Re: bug#16354: 24.3.50; ?`M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Organization: muc.de e.V. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.muc.de X-Trace: colin.muc.de 1389005503 37413 193.149.48.2 (6 Jan 2014 10:51:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-admin@muc.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:51:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.9.6-20101126 ("Burnside") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/8.4-RELEASE (amd64)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Juri Linkov wrote: >> dired-x.el has bound `M-o' to `dired-omit-mode', which is a toggle, >> since Time Immemorial. The facemenu commands were originally on >> prefix key `M-g'. > dired-x.el solves a similar problem for the conflicting key M-g > by using the upper-case G: > (define-key dired-mode-map "\M-G" 'dired-goto-subdir) > so doing the same we could use upper-case M-O for dired-omit-mode. > Actually dired-x.el already uses the upper-case O for the related command: > (define-key dired-mode-map "*O" 'dired-mark-omitted) > But before taking M-O into use it should be tested to work in emacs -nw > without problems. M-O doesn't work on a Linux tty. The shift-key is silently ignored, producing M-o. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 06 07:05:08 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2014 12:05:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37924 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W08va-0001ip-TK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:05:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W08vX-0001ie-DF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:05:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W08vS-00061u-5K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:05:02 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W08vS-00061q-2C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:04:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50513) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W08vN-0002zW-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:04:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W08vI-00060s-JC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:04:53 -0500 Received: from four.schnuerpel.eu ([2a01:4f8:120:9382::145]:35399) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W08vI-00060j-CO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:04:48 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net (mail-out.m-online.net [IPv6:2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by four.schnuerpel.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FBBD803 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:04:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dyb4Y0ydQz3hhrv; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:04:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3dyb4X3f0qzbbfG; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:04:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tt3oG0WH2ndU; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:04:43 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: FktE8qZa8EsaPIg+6H1pbC7g+irkOoHY3enITmzU6a4= Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-235-239.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.235.239]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:04:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E1D2A2C07B4; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:04:42 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Alan Mackenzie Subject: Re: bug#16354: 24.3.50; ?`M-o' conflict in Dired - change Omit mode to `C-x M-o' References: <5b53115d-c916-4120-b829-518526d8d477@default> X-Yow: Are we THERE yet?! Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:04:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:51:43 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <87iotxiaed.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) Alan Mackenzie writes: > M-O doesn't work on a Linux tty. The shift-key is silently ignored, > producing M-o. You can always use ESC. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:16:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator