From unknown Wed Jun 25 02:10:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16339: 24.3; slow initial display on the shell Resent-From: Arne Babenhauserheide Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16339@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: arne_bab@web.de Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13888330117041 (code B ref -1); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:57:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 10:56:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33073 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOuP-0001pT-La for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:56:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37969) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOuL-0001pK-Vm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:56:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOuF-0005Tg-UJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:56:45 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOuF-0005TH-Pq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:56:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39679) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOuA-0008M1-Ig for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:56:39 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOu5-0005RK-66 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:56:34 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:54378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzOu4-0005RF-Rz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 05:56:29 -0500 Received: from kaverne.draketo.de ([212.255.224.249]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0M7Kis-1VBAcv1aoo-00x2Jp for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:56:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:56:26 +0100 Message-ID: <878uuw2exx.wl%arne_bab@web.de> From: Arne Babenhauserheide User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?Q?Goj=C5=8D?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/24.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Bug8KyAOO0pr5LZEak9iB4ldMM/SvszHZ7c/z8qPKMr9+lSUfTB t7cbff0i7yId2t4qgcbk0k1kPNIgedN/CiNT/UuhpZIDuQM5AN2PeL6Dko6/URnO1aPyc1W F61fROm48lvoTdA6jPu3bagVGDif50FWH4WO3mHHuNIa0enQFdhfaEJEvwxhY3mnpSTjkF9 imSb1dNYKmgRVrOVjsH1A== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgment at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': Dear Emacs Hackers, When I start emacs -Q -nw in an ssh-session, it appears line-by-line, as if it where scrolling upwards. This feels unclean - like some graphics glitch. Different from that, nano appears almost at once. Is this intentional or can it be fixed? Best wishes, Arne If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /usr/share/emacs/24.3/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.4) of 2013-09-01 on kaverne System Description: Gentoo Base System release 2.2 Configured using: `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--libdir=/usr/lib64' '--disable-silent-rules' '--disable-dependency-tracking' '--program-suffix=-emacs-24' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-24' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.6.3/../../../../lib64' '--with-gameuser=games' '--without-compress-info' '--without-hesiod' '--without-kerberos' '--without-kerberos5' '--without-gpm' '--without-dbus' '--without-gnutls' '--without-xml2' '--without-selinux' '--without-wide-int' '--without-sound' '--with-x' '--without-ns' '--without-gconf' '--without-gsettings' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--without-gif' '--without-jpeg' '--without-png' '--without-rsvg' '--without-tiff' '--with-xpm' '--without-imagemagick' '--without-xft' '--without-libotf' '--without-m17n-flt' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' 'GENTOO_PACKAGE=app-editors/emacs-24.3-r2' 'build_alias=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=native' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS='' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: de_DE.utf8 value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: gpm-mouse-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t global-ethan-wspace-mode: t real-global-auto-complete-mode: t global-rudel-minor-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t fic-ext-mode: t kde-default-keys-minor-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-auto-complete-mode: t auto-complete-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t global-visual-line-mode: t visual-line-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: [ C C-@ ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ C ESC w ESC ! m k d ESC [ D ESC [ C DEL m k d i r SPC - p SPC C-y RET C-x k RET C-x C-s C-x C-c ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D ESC [ D DEL DEL : SPC ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C DEL SPC ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C DEL SPC t h e SPC ESC [ B ESC [ C C-x C-s C-x C-c ESC [ B ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ D DEL C-x C-s C-x C-c ESC x C-g C-g C-x C-c ESC x r e p o r t TAB b u TAB RET Recent messages: Indentation variables are now local. Indentation setup for shell type sh When done with a buffer, type C-x # Saving file /home/arne/wisp/bootstrap.sh... 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tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dynamic-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From unknown Wed Jun 25 02:10:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16339: 24.3; slow initial display on the shell Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 14:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: arne_bab@web.de Cc: 16339@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16339.13888461312173 (code B ref 16339); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 14:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 16339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 14:35:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzSK3-0000Yz-8O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:35:31 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:60776) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzSJz-0000Yn-UQ for 16339@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:35:29 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MYV00E00SBF4C00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 16339@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:35:26 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MYV00DPVSJ1T780@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:35:26 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:35:08 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <878uuw2exx.wl%arne_bab@web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <831u0nx1b7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878uuw2exx.wl%arne_bab@web.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:56:26 +0100 > From: Arne Babenhauserheide > > When I start emacs -Q -nw in an ssh-session, it appears line-by-line, as if it where scrolling upwards. This feels unclean - like some graphics glitch. > > Different from that, nano appears almost at once. > > Is this intentional or can it be fixed? I cannot reproduce this, so there's something specific to your system at work here, I think. From unknown Wed Jun 25 02:10:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16339: 24.3; slow initial display on the shell Resent-From: Arne Babenhauserheide Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo unreproducible To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: arne_bab@web.de, 16339@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: arne_bab@web.de Received: via spool by 16339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16339.138894430013259 (code B ref 16339); Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 16339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2014 17:51:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzrrP-0003Rn-Lp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:51:39 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:54931) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzrrN-0003Rc-MV for 16339@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 12:51:38 -0500 Received: from kaverne.draketo.de ([212.255.225.65]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lo0M4-1VShqB46m0-00g4St for <16339@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:51:36 +0100 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:51:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87y52u1fmg.wl%arne_bab@web.de> From: Arne Babenhauserheide In-Reply-To: <831u0nx1b7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878uuw2exx.wl%arne_bab@web.de> <831u0nx1b7.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?Q?Goj=C5=8D?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/24.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:kn1v3UWSu2w409zQ1mBoWX+EhI3fAXAzaSzaidOY8Y0o7b4kVxl 5w0QkbVI1uvWlZLlssycohCx0XWb40X+BKSldI/Qn1HJPjlupOeMofBvlkGfpivm2KdvsXs vWr1aeJkJaOwNF+ikL3v6KtYMsVpu+sr/Zsf/N95OIgI3MpB8cHjmxSLW2N4ILjgtjIAhyS CH4s+A+rbckGC6RG+yb2Q== X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) At Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:35:08 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:56:26 +0100 > > From: Arne Babenhauserheide > > > > When I start emacs -Q -nw in an ssh-session, it appears line-by-line, as if it where scrolling upwards. This feels unclean - like some graphics glitch. > > I cannot reproduce this, so there's something specific to your system > at work here, I think. OK - my system here is quite slow (~100MHz) while the remote one has high IO load, so starting Emacs might just produce higher load than starting nano. Thanks for checking! Best wishes, Arne From unknown Wed Jun 25 02:10:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16339: 24.3; slow initial display on the shell Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo unreproducible To: Arne Babenhauserheide Cc: 16339@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16339.145109424916111 (code B ref 16339); Sat, 26 Dec 2015 01:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 16339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2015 01:44:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36586 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCdtw-0004Bn-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:08 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38342) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCdtv-0004Bf-9x for 16339@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:07 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCdtZ-000085-8l; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 02:43:45 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <878uuw2exx.wl%arne_bab@web.de> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 02:43:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878uuw2exx.wl%arne_bab@web.de> (Arne Babenhauserheide's message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2014 11:56:26 +0100") Message-ID: <8760zmasrz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCdtZ-000085-8l X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451699026.57278@JZybfcsJEK338guxVF4QIg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Arne Babenhauserheide writes: > When I start emacs -Q -nw in an ssh-session, it appears line-by-line, as if it where scrolling upwards. This feels unclean - like some graphics glitch. > > Different from that, nano appears almost at once. Are you still seeing this in Emacs 25? I am unable to reproduce this behaviour, no matter how slow the machine is. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Wed Jun 25 02:10:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16339: 24.3; slow initial display on the shell Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo unreproducible To: Arne Babenhauserheide Cc: 16339@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16339.145672426223405 (code B ref 16339); Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 16339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2016 05:37:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51477 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaGWY-00065L-KC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:37:42 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43946) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaGWU-000655-14 for 16339@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:37:37 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aaGW1-0003Hg-Ri; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:37:06 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <878uuw2exx.wl%arne_bab@web.de> <8760zmasrz.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:37:00 +1100 In-Reply-To: <8760zmasrz.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 26 Dec 2015 02:43:44 +0100") Message-ID: <87y4a4t6v7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aaGW1-0003Hg-Ri X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457329027.36222@GnD8UsSTEFmCguusr2Lwgg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Arne Babenhauserheide writes: > >> When I start emacs -Q -nw in an ssh-session, it appears >> line-by-line, as if it where scrolling upwards. This feels unclean - >> like some graphics glitch. >> >> Different from that, nano appears almost at once. > > Are you still seeing this in Emacs 25? > > I am unable to reproduce this behaviour, no matter how slow the machine is. More information was requested, but no response was given within a few months, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please reopen this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 29 00:37:43 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2016 05:37:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51479 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaGWd-00065Z-3I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:37:43 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43951) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaGWY-00065F-6F for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:37:38 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aaGWA-0003I9-B9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:37:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:37:10 +1100 Message-Id: <87wppot6ux.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #16339 X-MailScanner-ID: 1aaGWA-0003I9-B9 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457329035.58674@JuxCh1BpX6WHXCeDbUKPyg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 16339