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24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `'

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16292: closed (24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight
 quotes instead of `')
Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 00:56:02 +0000

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From: Gregor Zattler <grfz <at> gmx.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `'
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:08:10 +0100

Dear emacs developers,

when I do a `make docs' the generated info files do not contain
`' -quotes any more but '' -quotes.

This breaks e.g. info+ fontification (a very helpful feature).

Reason is makeinfo >=5 produces either single straight quotes for
info files or single curly ones, depending on the document
encoding:

(from makeinfo maunal:)
   'OPEN_QUOTE_SYMBOL'
        When an opening quote is needed, e.g., for '@samp' output, use the
        specified character; default '‘' for HTML, '‘' for
        Docbook.  For Info, the default depends on the enabled document
        encoding (*note @documentencoding::); if no document encoding
        is set, or the encoding is US-ASCII, etc., ''' is used.
        This character usually appears as an undirected single quote
        on modern systems.  If the document encoding is Unicode, the
        Info output uses a Unicode left quote.
   [...]


(from makeinfo maunal:)     
   17.2 '@documentencoding ENC': Set Input Encoding
   ================================================
   
   The '@documentencoding' command declares the input document encoding.
   Write it on a line by itself, with a valid encoding specification
   following, near the beginning of the file but after '@setfilename'
   (*note @setfilename::):
   
        @documentencoding ENC
   
     At present, Texinfo supports only these encodings:
   
   'US-ASCII'
        This has no particular effect, but it's included for completeness.
   
   'UTF-8'
        The vast global character encoding, expressed in 8-bit bytes.
   
   'ISO-8859-2'
   'ISO-8859-1'
   'ISO-8859-15'
   [...]
     



Searching texinfos mailing list archives showed that this was
discussed roughly two years before and that it is the result of a
decision to go the same way as the rest of the world which
interprets ` as grave accent:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs/5526/match=single+quotes :

|> For the record, RFC20 says the meaning of character 0x60 is
|> EITHER "grave accent" OR "opening single quotation mark".  It
|> then says this character ".. should not be used without
|> determining that there is agreement between sender and recipient"


I think it's highly desirable to be able to tell beginning and
closing of enclosing characters apart.  Therefore I consider the
info files single straight quotes a bug.  I assume there is a way
to produce `' quotations with modern makeinfo or the *.texi files
should have @documentencoding directives which produce single
curly quotes.


Thanks for your attention, Gregor

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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 16292-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16292: 24.3.50;
 info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `'
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 20:55:47 -0400

Version: 24.4

Gregor Zattler wrote:

> or the *.texi files should have @documentencoding directives which
> produce single curly quotes.

They now do so, so the reported issue is fixed.

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