From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable Resent-From: Reinhard Kotucha Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 08:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16154@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: reinhard.kotucha@web.de Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13870943964550 (code B ref -1); Sun, 15 Dec 2013 08:00:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2013 07:59:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50682 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs6cF-0001BJ-8y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:59:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40488) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs6cC-0001B9-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:59:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs6c3-0003Qu-61 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:59:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53716) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs6c3-0003Qq-32 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:59:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42182) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs6bv-0006yp-Nz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:59:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs6bo-0003Pm-Df for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:59:35 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:61084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vs6bo-0003Pi-4i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 02:59:28 -0500 Received: from zaphod.ms25.net ([82.83.34.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M40na-1Vb7zI41SM-00rWj3 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 08:59:27 +0100 From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 08:59:25 +0100 X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.4.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KYoQN7V84Q7FLGug7fiyEXMjb/Nv0tyhWj6d65xIcTIDeyG/mkU B5A1HksLopGcTiAUIjCYvfGtNtjqK3j+6J2xgkjGfJKYCjHT4qTxapoIgxUdQHhfa83zPRT e35q1XJfqPML6XhPVkyHTSBpujYYBimU7XJulohC/YN/DWL85VBbVExnJr2INi/1gXVatOK Y9P5BDJw4yj8mjSInK/iA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hi, when I do (as root) su nobody VISUAL=/usr/local/bin/emacs-24.3 crontab -e Emacs says Creating directory: permission denied, //.emacs.d/ and refuses to do anything useful. It's on purpose that user 'nobody' doesn't have a writable HOME directory. My current workaround is to put the lines if [[ ${LOGNAME} == 'nobody' ]]; then EDITOR=vim else EDITOR=emacs fi into /etc/bashrc. It would be better if Emacs can be used even if the HOME directory isn't writable. vim allows me to edit the crontab and issues a warning E138: Can't write viminfo file /.viminfo! afterwards end but emacs refuses to do anything useful if $HOME isn't writable. 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Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable In-Reply-To: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> Resent-From: Achim Gratz Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16154@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.138710766326765 (code B ref -1); Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:42:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2013 11:41:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA4E-0006xc-Rd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:41:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36139) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA4C-0006xC-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:41:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA44-0008UM-UE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:41:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:32902) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA44-0008UI-RB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:40:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA3y-0002Sc-BZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:40:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA3s-0008TR-6e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:40:46 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA3r-0008TN-WD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:40:40 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VsA3o-0004b1-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 12:40:36 +0100 Received: from pd9eb1d98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.29.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 12:40:36 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb1d98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 12:40:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Achim Gratz Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 12:40:25 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 25 Message-ID: <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb1d98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZU75RzB1h8/tv0bFtHPwbla46NU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Reinhard Kotucha writes: > Creating directory: permission denied, //.emacs.d/ > > and refuses to do anything useful. It's on purpose that user 'nobody' > doesn't have a writable HOME directory. It looks like nobody doesn't have a non-writable HOME, but no HOME at all (or "/") on your system. > It would be better if Emacs can be used even if the HOME directory > isn't writable. Well, in my testing Emacs works (giving just a warning about the non-writable .emacs.d and then moving on), both 24.3 and trunk from a few days back. Perhaps you have something in site-lisp that assumes a writable ~/.emacs.d? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Achim Gratz Cc: 16154@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16154-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16154.138712477327516 (code B ref 16154); Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 16154) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2013 16:26:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51818 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsEWC-00079j-1E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:26:12 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:35682) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsEW4-00079Q-8A for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:26:05 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MXU00F00W5OWC00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:25:43 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MXU00FQVWAVWJ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:25:43 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:25:50 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <834n6af5dd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 12:40:25 +0100 > > > It would be better if Emacs can be used even if the HOME directory > > isn't writable. > > Well, in my testing Emacs works (giving just a warning about the > non-writable .emacs.d and then moving on), both 24.3 and trunk from a > few days back. Indeed, same here. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16154@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Achim Gratz , reinhard.kotucha@web.de Received: via spool by 16154-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16154.138713687219984 (code B ref 16154); Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 16154) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2013 19:47:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsHfL-0005CG-C4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:47:51 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51933) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsHfJ-0005C8-E2 for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:47:49 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsHfH-0001WW-2U; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:47:47 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834n6af5dd.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: encryption Bellcore Juiliett Class Submarine Clinton X-Ran: =\WMfIoZP|8J6%R,0#+?/bg07Mm[ky9.n0_k8lj8)O]zkf{M%e-R!D (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:25:50 +0200") Message-ID: <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) Not sure why you guys are saying this works in 24.3, because I only fixed this in trunk semi-recently: http://debbugs.gnu.org/13930 Ie, this should be fixed in 24.4. Of course, "refuses to do anything useful" is very vague, so I have no way to test whatever the OP was seeing works now. PS it's not a good idea to omit the OP from replies. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 15 14:48:12 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2013 19:48:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52031 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsHff-0005DG-2K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:48:11 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsHfc-0005D5-Gz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:48:08 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsHfc-0001X9-7w for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:48:08 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:48:08 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 16154 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) unarchive 13930 forcemerge 13930 16154 From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 20:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: reinhard.kotucha@web.de, Stromeko@nexgo.de, 16154@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16154-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16154.138713865227612 (code B ref 16154); Sun, 15 Dec 2013 20:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 16154) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2013 20:17:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52079 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsI84-0007BI-En for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 15:17:32 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:35767) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsI7u-0007Ax-Du for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 15:17:31 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MXV00A006YI3U00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:17:20 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MXV00A2Y70W2I30@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:17:20 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:17:27 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83mwk1eunc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834n6af5dd.fsf@gnu.org> <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Achim Gratz , reinhard.kotucha@web.de > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:47:46 -0500 > > > Not sure why you guys are saying this works in 24.3, because I only > fixed this in trunk semi-recently: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/13930 > > Ie, this should be fixed in 24.4. "This" being what? > Of course, "refuses to do anything useful" is very vague, so I have no > way to test whatever the OP was seeing works now. I assumed that "refuses to do anything useful" means you cannot visit a file, edit it, and save it. That works for me, both in 24.3 and the current trunk. FWIW, I did HOME=/whatever emacs -Q and in that session I could visit files, edit them, and save them. Sure, Emacs bitched at me at startup, but that's it. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable Resent-From: Reinhard Kotucha Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 03:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Achim Gratz , reinhard.kotucha@web.de, 16154@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: reinhard.kotucha@web.de Received: via spool by 16154-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16154.138716288611628 (code B ref 16154); Mon, 16 Dec 2013 03:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 16154) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2013 03:01:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsOQw-00031U-5u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:62523) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsOQr-00031H-Qj for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:01:23 -0500 Received: from zaphod.ms25.net ([82.83.34.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MORuj-1Vvyva3EnN-005s3A for <16154@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 04:01:20 +0100 From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21166.27902.390669.59255@zaphod.ms25.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 04:01:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834n6af5dd.fsf@gnu.org> <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.4.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7BMvY9VLTdsBfsgB/KNcUeKlJFavjqpzFEGlN2d7s4NtR0XqYuZ t+jevEyRgynkWpS1v43AcsHeHLGogxMAGtxfBz9lJ/+bFC15AgMPouXazsj4X03+dXB5LfV 3xX+aReXvZWLC4SWMM/hOUjOQYjaAFaYV8v6RUAY9L6vD8ht/CIZAyhG8uPWwGkDt3XhhzL AS/pfhYV9H9wseoJ4N1jw== X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 2013-12-15 at 14:47:46 -0500, Glenn Morris wrote: > Not sure why you guys are saying this works in 24.3, because I only > fixed this in trunk semi-recently: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/13930 > > Ie, this should be fixed in 24.4. > Of course, "refuses to do anything useful" is very vague, so I have no > way to test whatever the OP was seeing works now. Sorry for having been so imprecise. With "refuses to do anything useful" I meant that it didn't load the crontab. There is only the scratch buffer. Seems that I encountered the bug you fixed. I'll try the version in trunk tomorrow. Thanks, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha@web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable Resent-From: Achim Gratz Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: reinhard.kotucha@web.de, 16154@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16154-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16154.13871786969237 (code B ref 16154); Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 16154) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2013 07:24:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsSXv-0002Ot-MM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 02:24:56 -0500 Received: from mail-in-10.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.50]:43467) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsSXq-0002Oh-B8 for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 02:24:52 -0500 Received: from mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.36]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D112D62F5; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:24:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mail-in-19-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3F83F841D; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:24:49 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Passed host: 217.235.23.245 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-04.arcor-online.net D03FDAABD8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nexgo.de; s=mail-in; t=1387178689; bh=zPSkTKZNn0L5FxnsWHmAIKbU6Kn0i8Ra7hGMw/mRx+s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ahAPyC0A4IcjT9v3BBQzG4prjcDiE8TYLMcLdiMtWJ7pWmBgrN7dMl8gdTwUBvVGt rW23jQqMso3arnAdkdayIw4Jsq54yd28NP1OhmveJTFUtrEkNiQSlSSumaF0V5Yhqw 2wgmQeoLlaouvKsIfn4zWKvMJg5mL1gE6OY1uT+8= X-Greylist: Passed host: 217.235.23.245 X-Greylist: Passed host: 217.235.23.245 Received: from Rainer.invalid (pD9EB17F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.235.23.245]) (Authenticated sender: stromeko@arcor.de) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D03FDAABD8; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:24:48 +0100 (CET) From: Achim Gratz References: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834n6af5dd.fsf@gnu.org> <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:24:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:47:46 -0500") Message-ID: <87wqj5xnph.fsf@Rainer.invalid> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Glenn Morris writes: > Not sure why you guys are saying this works in 24.3, because I only > fixed this in trunk semi-recently: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/13930 > > Ie, this should be fixed in 24.4. It "worked for me" since I didn't test with enough command line arguments to see that the processing of the command line would be incomplete in 24.3. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Glenn Morris writes: > Not sure why you guys are saying this works in 24.3, because I only > fixed this in trunk semi-recently: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/13930 > > Ie, this should be fixed in 24.4. It "worked for me" since I didn't test with enough command line arguments to see that the processing of the command line would be incomplete in 24.3. [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [151.189.21.50 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Glenn Morris writes: > Not sure why you guys are saying this works in 24.3, because I only > fixed this in trunk semi-recently: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/13930 > > Ie, this should be fixed in 24.4. It "worked for me" since I didn't test with enough command line arguments to see that the processing of the command line would be incomplete in 24.3. > Of course, "refuses to do anything useful" is very vague, so I have no > way to test whatever the OP was seeing works now. It's become clear in the meantime that the bug is indeed that file(s) given on the command line won't open in 24.3. You can still work on them once Emacs has started and complained about the non-writable ~/.emacs.d/, though. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:53:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16154: Emacs crashes if $HOME isn't writable Resent-From: Reinhard Kotucha Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16154 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: reinhard.kotucha@web.de Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , Achim Gratz , 16154@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: reinhard.kotucha@web.de Received: via spool by 16154-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16154.138722854014343 (code B ref 16154); Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 16154) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2013 21:15:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54531 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsfVs-0003jG-0z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:15:40 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:51320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VsfVp-0003j7-GC for 16154@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:15:38 -0500 Received: from zaphod.ms25.net ([82.83.34.60]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWB8f-1W3ISf0pyb-00XKWc for <16154@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:15:36 +0100 From: Reinhard Kotucha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21167.28021.811941.153272@zaphod.ms25.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:15:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <21166.27902.390669.59255@zaphod.ms25.net> References: <21165.24925.926459.238783@zaphod.ms25.net> <87iouqz6ja.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834n6af5dd.fsf@gnu.org> <7yob4hrj4t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <21166.27902.390669.59255@zaphod.ms25.net> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.4.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0SJ0+DZaF6gm8G4VEDeCI7zmSYVivlmN+gr2KE07enlXNW0Y1bN F2QCRc9/QpHTSBxDYgGBPT+i/mYNaxnz8FH22oHVWu0UQo3aWFSK4YARPvn0KBxM84nCzP6 xsIZbw/no7yy+/0dJGXuy6EWXmIpUEyG1/oCv1P+pMcnQMUr79aTVZCzlp6CM4q9W6e/KKG /yyYFZkxIdLVe9cJStMZA== X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 2013-12-16 at 04:01:18 +0100, Reinhard Kotucha wrote: > On 2013-12-15 at 14:47:46 -0500, Glenn Morris wrote: > > > Not sure why you guys are saying this works in 24.3, because I only > > fixed this in trunk semi-recently: > > > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/13930 > > > > Ie, this should be fixed in 24.4. > > Of course, "refuses to do anything useful" is very vague, so I > > have no way to test whatever the OP was seeing works now. > > Sorry for having been so imprecise. With "refuses to do anything > useful" I meant that it didn't load the crontab. There is only the > scratch buffer. Seems that I encountered the bug you fixed. > > I'll try the version in trunk tomorrow. Dear Glenn, I installed emacs-24.3.50 now and it works like a charm. Thanks again, Reinhard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reinhard Kotucha Phone: +49-511-3373112 Marschnerstr. 25 D-30167 Hannover mailto:reinhard.kotucha@web.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------