From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 10 18:56:59 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Dec 2013 23:56:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42459 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VqXAg-00086d-VC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:56:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33870) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VqXAe-00086V-R4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:56:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqXAS-0005q9-7g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:56:56 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37686) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqXAS-0005pz-5L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:56:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35547) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqXAJ-0001XB-FW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:56:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqXAA-0005oK-U9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:56:35 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:48403) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VqXAA-0005ng-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:56:26 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rBANuPEf002847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:56:25 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBANuOOd011774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:56:25 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rBANuOqN011760 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:56:24 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:56:23 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; doc of `replace-match' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) State (in doc string and Elisp manual) that N in \N is not just "a digit" but a digit from 1 through 9. Make clear that in "Nth subexpression", N is one-based, not zero-based. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.2 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-11-28 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 115271 rgm@gnu.org-20131128203155-qjc1xsp19z2k64b2 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG= =3D1' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 07 21:56:05 2014 Received: (at 16106) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 02:56:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55720 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBy5M-0002xe-O9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:56:04 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45831) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBy5L-0002xO-C2 for 16106@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:56:03 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WBy57-0003mG-6r; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 03:55:49 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#16106: 24.3.50; doc of `replace-match' References: Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:54:41 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:56:23 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87a9e2b9fy.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WBy57-0003mG-6r X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392432949.69213@zGCEFR64DrDHbJtjUNScCw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16106 Cc: 16106@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > State (in doc string and Elisp manual) that N in \N is not just "a > digit" but a digit from 1 through 9. Make clear that in "Nth > subexpression", N is one-based, not zero-based. I don't think that makes any sense. The wording is: `\N' means substitute what matched the Nth `\(...\)'. If Nth parens didn't match, substitute nothing. I can't see anybody interpreting Nth as having "zeroth" as a valid meaning. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 07 21:56:11 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 02:56:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55723 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBy5S-0002y1-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:56:10 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBy5Q-0002xq-Lt for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:56:08 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WBy5C-0003mR-Iz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 03:55:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:54:46 -0800 Message-Id: <878utmb9ft.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #16106 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WBy5C-0003mR-Iz X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392432955.38879@6tryp8t/TyFwQRyg+p95cQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 16106 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 07 22:33:18 2014 Received: (at 16106) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 03:33:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55797 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WByfO-0007Su-1L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:33:18 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:17902) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WByfM-0007Sm-2Q for 16106@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:33:16 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s183XEKq018628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 8 Feb 2014 03:33:15 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s183XDsJ010003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Feb 2014 03:33:13 GMT Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s183XDME009998; Sat, 8 Feb 2014 03:33:13 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <71ee4353-2d1f-4302-ae7e-fa1f5d38dca0@default> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:33:12 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#16106: 24.3.50; doc of `replace-match' References: <87a9e2b9fy.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87a9e2b9fy.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16106 Cc: 16106@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > > State (in doc string and Elisp manual) that N in \N is not just "a > > digit" but a digit from 1 through 9. Make clear that in "Nth > > subexpression", N is one-based, not zero-based. >=20 > I don't think that makes any sense. The wording is: >=20 > `\N' means substitute what matched the Nth `\(...\)'. > If Nth parens didn't match, substitute nothing. >=20 > I can't see anybody interpreting Nth as having "zeroth" as a valid > meaning. Most things in Emacs and Lisp in general are zero-based. It is not obvious that this is one-based. And Oth and zeroth make as much sense as 1th and oneth. If counting is zero-based then the 0th element is exactly that: the entry that is indexed by the number zero. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 01:56:33 2014 Received: (at 16106) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 06:56:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33797 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCknB-0007JW-7A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:56:33 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:48860) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCkn8-0007JH-HH for 16106@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:56:31 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A6uSAR006881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:56:29 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A6uSUB029406 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:56:28 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A6uS3X029398; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:56:28 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0326c00d-44f5-4a16-956d-24d594d909ac@default> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 22:56:25 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#16106: 24.3.50; doc of `replace-match' References: <87a9e2b9fy.fsf@building.gnus.org> <71ee4353-2d1f-4302-ae7e-fa1f5d38dca0@default> In-Reply-To: <71ee4353-2d1f-4302-ae7e-fa1f5d38dca0@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16106 Cc: 16106@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > Most things in Emacs and Lisp in general are zero-based. > It is not obvious that this is one-based. And Oth and zeroth > make as much sense as 1th and oneth. If counting is zero-based > then the 0th element is exactly that: the entry that is indexed > by the number zero. Let me put it differently: Is there a good reason NOT to say that "N is a digit from 1 through 9"? From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:23:27 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator