From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:13:31 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#16062 <16062@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#16062 <16062@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened Reply-To: bug#16062 <16062@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:13:31 +0000 retitle 16062 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened reassign 16062 emacs submitter 16062 Alex Willisson severity 16062 minor tag 16062 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 05 16:31:43 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2013 21:31:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60554 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VogWM-0007u9-8d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:31:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59310) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VogSx-0007nq-CN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:28:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VogSw-0001JX-2D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:28:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VogSv-0001JN-Vb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:28:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32793) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VogSu-00064m-Aq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:28:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VogSt-0001Eq-4w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:28:08 -0500 Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]:64698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VogSs-0001Ei-VC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:28:07 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id as1so30759026iec.27 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:28:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Hb/9VPqGMNvCNsEXdwCH+C+umcZx/SRtYhAvDXgFil0=; b=UDit20JntZQauwFjBy+MklIOrLY+DKxRHLuwVMp27Zwoaa7NtJUH5QjOayucKTGMV2 BKn3JR0Il3rBIgQiwYs2IkHOvljgdtiFA8pd4k/ClhpALh3tRiEB65OsAKxPMypFDOGz i+/nrifEyjn3HKimphqR8v02hrels/V7M9tF7HJ7ju8YukHBrk48XdIQahs3nBf/edpT gJ4HFK42p04Q7JYp+GltDenjm9OINzeyogIoUNvvU3bJPKLH+Rg7RWaZ29SsF1cm60Uk 2kDytNoEmCK4wV1p5aiEhNJAtjnQGVv4FqLL9qE8qJo2wZU2iYt2TOY7pCxuX2tIGTTQ 9nOQ== X-Received: by 10.50.254.165 with SMTP id aj5mr13252igd.0.1386278885991; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:28:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.58.197 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:27:35 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Willisson Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:27:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fWg6RSEtd2MXDIvSXSaD12OPYGM Message-ID: Subject: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:31:40 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) When I try to open a .png file which does not exist, I get the error message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" in the minibuffer, instead of something more related to "File does not exist" Steps for reproduction: $ emacs -Q C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png This bug looks like it occurs for nearly all image extensions, I have reproduced it with these extensions: .png, .gif, .jpeg, .jpg, .ppm, .pnm, .tiff, .xpm, .xcf, .psd, .bmp, .tga, .ico, .rgb, and .svg. In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.9.10) of 2013-08-14 on buildvm-17.phx2.fedoraproject.org Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11402000 System Description: Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) Configured using: `configure '--build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program-prefix=' '--disable-dependency-tracking' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--includedir=/usr/include' '--libdir=/usr/lib64' '--libexecdir=/usr/libexec' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--with-dbus' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xft' '--with-xpm' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' '--with-gpm=no' 'build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -grecord-gcc-switches -m64 -mtune=generic' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro '' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=none locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t - e m a c s - b u g Recent messages: Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/desktop-entry-mode-init.el (source)...done Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/rpmdev-init.el (source)...done Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/systemtap-init.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message cl-macs gv format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils actionscript-mode cl cl-lib time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 06 02:19:21 2013 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2013 07:19:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32876 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Voph2-00081H-KQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:19:20 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:47618) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vopgz-000812-6E for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:19:18 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MXD00E00IZ77Y00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:18:55 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MXD00E33IZJ2I30@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:18:55 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:18:44 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Alex Willisson Message-id: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Alex Willisson > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:27:35 -0500 > > When I try to open a .png file which does not exist, I get the error > message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" in the > minibuffer, instead of something more related to "File does not exist" > > Steps for reproduction: > > $ emacs -Q > > C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png How should Emacs know whether you intend to visit an existing file or create a new one? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 06 02:57:28 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2013 07:57:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqHv-0000WZ-Ja for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:57:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53839) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqHq-0000WO-O5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:57:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqHk-00033c-FH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:57:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:47500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqHk-00033Y-BL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:57:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55536) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqHe-0001DE-Jq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:57:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqHZ-00032n-2B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:57:10 -0500 Received: from smtpo56.poczta.onet.pl ([213.180.142.187]:48132) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqHY-00032g-NQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 02:57:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.17.9] (cj.e-siemianowice.pl [95.215.234.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jarekczek@poczta.onet.pl) by smtp.poczta.onet.pl (Onet) with ESMTPSA id 3dbR325PshzZD2nB for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:57:02 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=poczta.onet.pl; s=2011; t=1386316622; bh=WeGybF04JS5gAEJEovqQG9a/Yh1u2dQiL4xnVs3zCjE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Sax1HJYwFo8thq20zxVIQ4EN/l/PlpEo7zbeFw3JV0c9FN956WrNCPcbAoFWPr/oX 1RoYxShCj/cSGPYvwDW+uZHX8jXF59gk/uXrl8z/ggVMEuKj2MnOpsjKbCk9FVv0V2 rnvpOM+Hu9QrsFNBMmj+Qiv97GEbzrSrT67Shovs= Message-ID: <52A18350.8090108@poczta.onet.pl> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:57:04 +0100 From: Jarek Czekalski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: [SPAM] bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened References: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) W dniu 2013-12-06 08:18, Eli Zaretskii pisze: > How should Emacs know whether you intend to visit an existing file or > create a new one? It seems so easy to determine what is the intention of visiting a png file. But if Emacs admin does not know that, then I assume I make some silly newbie mistake and it is in fact impossible. Jarek From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 06 03:39:13 2013 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2013 08:39:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqwK-0001XO-Sl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:39:13 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:56122) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VoqwH-0001XE-A0 for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 03:39:10 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MXD00E00MKT2700@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:39:07 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MXD00DYFMP6P770@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:39:07 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:38:55 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#16062: [SPAM] bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened In-reply-to: <52A18350.8090108@poczta.onet.pl> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Jarek Czekalski Message-id: <83vbz21ihs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> <52A18350.8090108@poczta.onet.pl> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:57:04 +0100 > From: Jarek Czekalski > > W dniu 2013-12-06 08:18, Eli Zaretskii pisze: > > How should Emacs know whether you intend to visit an existing file or > > create a new one? > > It seems so easy to determine what is the intention of visiting a png > file. Is it? What if I come up with an Emacs mode that lets users _create_ PNG files? > But if Emacs admin does not know that, then I assume I make some > silly newbie mistake and it is in fact impossible. I didn't ask the (slightly provocative) question to indicate that I consider your request silly. I asked it to put the issue in perspective. I agree it would be good to make the error message more clear in this case, I just suggest that we think about the possible alternatives to "File does not exist", because we don't show such a message when users visit non-existent files. IOW, I submit that the problem is with image-mode throwing an error in this case, instead of showing "(New file)" in the echo area, just like we do with any non-existing file. We could also turn image-mode off in such a case, although the correctness of that is less clear to me. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 06 16:04:22 2013 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2013 21:04:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp2ZS-0008PU-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 16:04:22 -0500 Received: from smtpo56.poczta.onet.pl ([213.180.142.187]:38510) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vp2ZO-0008PA-T4 for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 16:04:20 -0500 Received: from [192.168.17.5] (cj.e-siemianowice.pl [95.215.234.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jarekczek@poczta.onet.pl) by smtp.poczta.onet.pl (Onet) with ESMTPSA id 3dbmWP5B2fzYkj27 for <16062@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:04:16 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=poczta.onet.pl; s=2011; t=1386363857; bh=a6PDGiy8ODoa1X5Zy/2JB+ZxPD6DFGEapURdPjnkH8M=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZZfSbbzzxQKzYIuecHiS09jSZTzN76rfE2PlsIAXq0G8+9/H2sJRUyBmoMl7uk+kJ k7DJviRVuADDGozS4F5F2ZBct9RKHKVtsroUH/1u+N2rK26G5Oe2r6mMGUCGjAOiR1 YJ7TCe6t8eWgxshFyU7XqKYB6RC2NSJOBxBaguzA= Message-ID: <52A23C0D.4030302@poczta.onet.pl> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:05:17 +0100 From: Jarek Czekalski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened References: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> <52A18350.8090108@poczta.onet.pl> <83vbz21ihs.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83vbz21ihs.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) W dniu 12/06/2013 09:38 AM, Eli Zaretskii pisze: > Is it? What if I come up with an Emacs mode that lets users _create_ > PNG files? What I actually had in mind was that Emacs already does this guessing (what was the intention of opening a png file) and we don't want to change this process. But after we decided we want to display the graphics and before passing the filename to the graphic library, we should check if file exists. If file does not exist - give the exact message or fallback to non-graphical mode. Both solutions would make it obvious, that the file does not exists. I guess that's the intention of Alex, who reported this. Thanks Jarek From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 02:27:48 2013 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2013 07:27:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35444 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VpCIl-0006zJ-OC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 02:27:48 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:44197) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VpCIg-0006z8-QO for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 02:27:44 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MXF00200DT8NF00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 09:27:41 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MXF002W9E24NB10@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sat, 07 Dec 2013 09:27:41 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 09:27:32 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened In-reply-to: <52A23C0D.4030302@poczta.onet.pl> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Jarek Czekalski Message-id: <834n6l15p7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> <52A18350.8090108@poczta.onet.pl> <83vbz21ihs.fsf@gnu.org> <52A23C0D.4030302@poczta.onet.pl> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:05:17 +0100 > From: Jarek Czekalski > > W dniu 12/06/2013 09:38 AM, Eli Zaretskii pisze: > > Is it? What if I come up with an Emacs mode that lets users _create_ > > PNG files? > > What I actually had in mind was that Emacs already does this guessing > (what was the intention of opening a png file) and we don't want to > change this process. But after we decided we want to display the > graphics and before passing the filename to the graphic library, we > should check if file exists. That's not how "C-x C-f" works in this case. It visits the file as usual, and then turns on image-mode, which instructs the image library to display the image using the data we already have in the buffer. So the file name is never passed to the image library. IOW, Emacs does the same in this case as when you type C-x C-f non-existent-file.c RET In the latter case, you get an empty buffer that is in CC mode, and a message "(New file)" in the echo area. Therefore, I submit that the problem is with image-mode, which barfs on empty buffers, obviously assuming such situations won't happen. > If file does not exist - give the exact message or fallback to > non-graphical mode. Both solutions would make it obvious, that the file > does not exists. I guess that's the intention of Alex, who reported this. Would it be wrong to have an empty buffer put in image-mode and "(New file)" displayed in the echo area? That is how Emacs behaves in any other case when the user visits a file that does not exist. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 13 16:58:43 2013 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2013 21:58:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48918 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vraks-00011M-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 16:58:43 -0500 Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:36715 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrakp-00010z-FZ for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 16:58:40 -0500 Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACF3258B9E936; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:58:37 -0800 (PST) From: Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened Organization: JURTA References: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> <52A18350.8090108@poczta.onet.pl> <83vbz21ihs.fsf@gnu.org> <52A23C0D.4030302@poczta.onet.pl> <834n6l15p7.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:58:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <834n6l15p7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 07 Dec 2013 09:27:32 +0200") Message-ID: <87lhzoyg3t.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org, Jarek Czekalski X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > IOW, Emacs does the same in this case as when you type > > C-x C-f non-existent-file.c RET > > In the latter case, you get an empty buffer that is in CC mode, and a > message "(New file)" in the echo area. In this case the echo area displays "Loading cc-langs...done", but not "(New file)". If we'll remove the message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" from image-mode.el, then it still will display "Type C-c C-c to view the image as an image.", but not "(New file)" (but it's still visible in the *Messages* buffer). So the problem of overridden messages is general. A possible solution is to collect a batch of the latest messages and display them in the multi-line echo area. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 14 01:51:51 2013 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2013 06:51:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49111 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrj4o-0008Mz-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:51:50 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39789) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrj4j-0008Ml-Uy for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:51:47 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MXS00L00B03DS00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 08:51:44 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MXS00L77B279N40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 08:51:44 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 08:51:46 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened In-reply-to: <87lhzoyg3t.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Juri Linkov Message-id: <83mwk353i5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834n6m30rv.fsf@gnu.org> <52A18350.8090108@poczta.onet.pl> <83vbz21ihs.fsf@gnu.org> <52A23C0D.4030302@poczta.onet.pl> <834n6l15p7.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhzoyg3t.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org, jarekczek@poczta.onet.pl X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: Jarek Czekalski , 16062@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:58:03 +0200 > > > IOW, Emacs does the same in this case as when you type > > > > C-x C-f non-existent-file.c RET > > > > In the latter case, you get an empty buffer that is in CC mode, and a > > message "(New file)" in the echo area. > > In this case the echo area displays "Loading cc-langs...done", > but not "(New file)". > > If we'll remove the message "Cannot display image: (Cannot > determine image type)" from image-mode.el, then it still will > display "Type C-c C-c to view the image as an image.", > but not "(New file)" (but it's still visible in the *Messages* buffer). > > So the problem of overridden messages is general. A possible solution > is to collect a batch of the latest messages and display them in the > multi-line echo area. Or maybe image-mode could display another "(New file)" when it discovers that the buffer is empty. 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Content preview: Alex Willisson writes: > When I try to open a .png file which does not exist, I get the error > message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" in the > minibuffer, instead of something more related to "File d [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Alex Willisson writes: > When I try to open a .png file which does not exist, I get the error > message "Cannot display image: (Cannot determine image type)" in the > minibuffer, instead of something more related to "File does not exist" > > Steps for reproduction: > > $ emacs -Q > > C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png I've now fixed this for Emacs 28 -- it now says there's no image data present instead of the confusing error message about image types. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 20 14:11:05 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 18:11:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43958 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8p1l-00056L-Gv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:11:05 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8p1j-00055X-Ks for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:11:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RBn9LBYpEKv/533Sb5c2XkqZjKlJYq5aj5rh2Kit8Q8=; b=FlyHQWI0GAfoW5GmQw1/6fZdQc hhhpRtUHyHAesim+SOajHqePwX1tREe2DHqd9p/yS1GLZPuECldNYVpqkG4k7Jp4MbAcrcXtHV8oQ iRymBHwc1KFuQOAmWGzE3H3i4x7l41UNrMVHepEAdQ4oy55Um1HMT67ABVZNKggN4z84=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8p1c-00089C-0D for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:10:58 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:10:54 +0200 Message-Id: <87o8n5nq6p.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #16062 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 16062 fixed close 16062 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 16062 fixed close 16062 28.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 20 14:30:14 2020 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 18:30:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44028 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pKI-00086H-DH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:30:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pKH-0007zA-8T for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:30:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pKB-0001pH-Oz; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:30:07 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4493 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pKA-0000a9-FQ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:30:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 21:29:59 +0300 Message-Id: <835z9dcgrc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87pn7lnq6y.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:10:45 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened References: <87pn7lnq6y.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org, atw@mit.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:10:45 +0200 > Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org > > > $ emacs -Q > > > > C-x C-f not_an_actual_file.png > > I've now fixed this for Emacs 28 -- it now says there's no image data > present It does? On my system, it just says "New file". Which is not bad, but doesn't match your description. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 20 14:39:31 2020 Received: (at 16062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 18:39:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44060 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pTG-0001t4-VS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:39:31 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:32898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pTF-0001sq-3w for 16062@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:39:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=N+vshISkKdvHwL3rP1Z5S6ezdBH0vNFhG354mGV0vYY=; b=LEnGifo9ZRVTBLS2knahOK+rRI CMgkaKiYHCKKUVcQi2cWn1Mhgn/R2oSoRQcqLDzfdWZnccsEF482ckqf1CFIfYtuQrm4xUk+hJSID UmCuMq7+3wm9SwSu8I5YDMlJ37GLCsFzu9P3FbipsxtiO54RMLLDSvZrFm0cd3NWa9HQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8pT6-0000VN-IL; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:39:23 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#16062: 24.3; Missing .png file gives poor error message when opened References: <87pn7lnq6y.fsf@gnus.org> <835z9dcgrc.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEWwz9I5Q0ltkpr/ //8RTiW7AAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+QIFBImLq6ggcgAAAGgSURBVCjPXZHBatwwEIan Ig4r39pbe3IWujh6CqeQstvTFjIi8qkEJLCfQg1syPrUFmzWPrkGG1tP2ZG92UPnpI9/NPo1P8B/ FaBEtBd4QPVqWwuCf1iUlqCz7w5IlXgAywIP29a10P28OXqwLAeIntf8I2bqPO0T8N93uBLgFbEK 3mePNooJLFwF5Z08PE2PAHE3HAxi0asTNf7daKl04Wg01bUmB1/TaQ+iFqFW6ArXkRL9Ce57g4X7 5btYqGtDd8YIXCG4d537AcLVL/qk8RXAg7uemuHb7EyMjm8evhvryKpoBTdpo8P0B0kWAtNLDNf+ E5YVZhqG8YaU2LmizMvMxp2F+JTuEGUF8Rpg49JcZplMyADETbq7b2qdQAf+0V7KEhNBsCZAcv0l 3s7KsTZKJR2524TNbjAat7cEUdXs5sVPBBC6A1b9C0TLSvlUq9tzVhFTZdm/xchLRH1uCwM0Oh8X WHmQ47mN7GA5nxjAZ4WX6BnHN2C2mTNdUmAjxxTR6WHvN3dE+o9zbg/suZloGlZYUYys80B7X5K7 1D84dKwDUD8GhQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0wOC0yMFQxODozODo0NSswMDowMEpK 3gMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMDgtMjBUMTg6Mzg6NDUrMDA6MDA7F2a/AAAAAElF TkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: A Tribe Called Quest's _People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm_: "Youthful Expression" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:39:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <835z9dcgrc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 20 Aug 2020 21:29:59 +0300") Message-ID: <87k0xtmaaw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I've now fixed this for Emacs 28 -- it now says there's no image data >> present > > It does? On my system, it just says "New file". Which is not bad, > but doesn't match your description. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16062 Cc: 16062@debbugs.gnu.org, atw@mit.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I've now fixed this for Emacs 28 -- it now says there's no image data >> present > > It does? On my system, it just says "New file". Which is not bad, > but doesn't match your description. It does if the file exists (but is empty). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:13:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator