From unknown Sat Aug 16 22:00:50 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#15928 <15928@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#15928 <15928@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; Emacs manual: index `hooks' Reply-To: bug#15928 <15928@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 05:00:50 +0000 retitle 15928 24.3.50; Emacs manual: index `hooks' reassign 15928 emacs submitter 15928 Drew Adams severity 15928 wishlist tag 15928 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 19 13:24:05 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2013 18:24:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33533 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vipy1-00084R-2v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:24:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vipxy-00083x-CV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:24:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vipxj-0003PU-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:23:57 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vipxj-0003PQ-3C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:23:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37603) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vipxa-00021H-GC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:23:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VipxR-0003MU-SU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:23:38 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VipxR-0003MK-Ke for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:23:29 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAJINS4O028687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:23:29 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAJINRhj015556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:23:28 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAJINRoe015550 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:23:27 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5d3a0fee-a5d5-4255-9f6f-02c92891328c@default> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:23:26 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; Emacs manual: index `hooks' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Not sure what the convention is, but `hook' is indexed, whereas `hooks' is not. But `buffer-locak hooks' is indexed and `buffer-local hook' is not. We should be consistent, at least. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-11-12 on LEG570 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG= =3D1' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 19 13:27:48 2013 Received: (at 15928) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2013 18:27:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33538 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Viq1c-0008A6-5D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:27:48 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:31141) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Viq1Y-00089o-Iz for 15928@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:27:46 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAJIRb6h011325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <15928@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:27:38 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAJIRbYn025119 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <15928@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:27:37 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAJIRb9c000276 for <15928@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:27:37 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <8ad9b36b-8792-44a0-9def-3fc0a0aefb8f@default> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:27:36 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: 15928@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#15928: 24.3.50; Emacs manual: index `hooks' References: <5d3a0fee-a5d5-4255-9f6f-02c92891328c@default> In-Reply-To: <5d3a0fee-a5d5-4255-9f6f-02c92891328c@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15928 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) And in the Elisp manual, it is `hooks' and not `hook' that is indexed, i.e., the opposite of the Emacs manual. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 10:43:01 2016 Received: (at 15928) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 14:43:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55404 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw9dF-0002LP-MC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:43:01 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56911) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw9dD-0002LE-Oz for 15928@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:43:00 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw9dB-0001pl-D1; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:42:59 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#15928: 24.3.50; Emacs manual: index `hooks' References: <5d3a0fee-a5d5-4255-9f6f-02c92891328c@default> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:42:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5d3a0fee-a5d5-4255-9f6f-02c92891328c@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:23:26 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87k2jg5vda.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15928 Cc: 15928@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > Not sure what the convention is, but `hook' is indexed, whereas `hooks' > is not. But `buffer-locak hooks' is indexed and `buffer-local hook' is > not. We should be consistent, at least. I don't think it matters. Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 10:43:07 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 14:43:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55416 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw9dK-0002Mr-Sh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:43:07 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56918) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw9dI-0002MM-Jo for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:43:04 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw9dG-0001pu-Cr for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:43:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:43:02 +0200 Message-Id: <87inz05vd5.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #15928 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 15928 wontfix close 15928 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 22:56:17 2016 Received: (at 15928) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 02:56:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56277 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awL4r-0005ke-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:56:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35471) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awL4q-0005kT-6j for 15928@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:56:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awL4b-0006VN-Fz for 15928@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:56:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awL3r-0006FB-SB; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:55:15 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1awL3l-0008Sf-Q8; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:55:09 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87k2jg5vda.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:42:57 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#15928: 24.3.50; Emacs manual: index `hooks' References: <5d3a0fee-a5d5-4255-9f6f-02c92891328c@default> <87k2jg5vda.fsf@gnus.org> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:55:09 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15928 Cc: 15928@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Not sure what the convention is, but `hook' is indexed, whereas `hooks' > > is not. But `buffer-locak hooks' is indexed and `buffer-local hook' is > > not. We should be consistent, at least. There is a systematic naming convention in use here. Names ending in -hook are normal hooks. Names ending in -hooks are not normal hooks. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From unknown Sat Aug 16 22:00:50 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator