From unknown Fri Jun 20 05:38:15 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#15896 <15896@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#15896 <15896@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options Reply-To: bug#15896 <15896@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:38:15 +0000 retitle 15896 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new= export options reassign 15896 emacs,org-mode submitter 15896 Jambunathan K severity 15896 minor tag 15896 notabug wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 14 12:00:25 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2013 17:00:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0HF-0008WQ-1k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:00:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0HC-0008MS-2U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:00:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0H2-0005BG-72 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:00:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0H2-0005BC-3v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:00:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0Gx-0006Ma-73 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:00:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0Gs-0004sJ-By for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:00:03 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22c]:34153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0Gs-0004s7-4T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:59:58 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rp16so2293593pbb.3 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:59:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=BJpHXJHbtBTLO2FzRkrCJ8BY0PZuymqWYf4yvHaUdeo=; b=ZoFck3nThHKKylVCDUMc6ClogV8KPdGwGhJYKnhLLbD+Yv1T7WMib1C/iB693Gd002 zTpA3sPxFuzsU8Z3BrqcuPbImz0WnUggbfRIzq4fY4HAS7lYeDL6E/tqn5I/KiB9uiUs CyQUkmM73HdpX4+bsbBR5M6Rc/C9/kywvKbI/5YZyzlr5Tai0vhCHcBX31B3ao6akfCp x1VM+uGzgEHamaiH1CNcQGPRczorq9PVXwWbdG6vlQHX8v5Q82YJkqSAOBE3Is60wXsj r9Wmq6KVtGBDmoCdDf/4WukWZmcEgBfmdMmmAJNOvJkQP+N7z3a4tivYk+J3pq4q5ti0 BkxQ== X-Received: by 10.66.159.132 with SMTP id xc4mr2401691pab.27.1384448396842; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.244.236.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sy10sm303763pac.15.2013.11.14.08.59.54 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:59:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:29:55 +0530 Message-ID: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) 24.3.50; Org-8.0 on trunk: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options All exporters are new and I expect the below command to report something interesting. Please review and correctly tag defcustoms declared in ox.el and ox-*.el are More details here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-11/msg00474.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-11/msg00475.html In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.7 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2013-11-13 on debian-6.05 Bzr revision: 115084 bzg@gnu.org-20131112201421-0nj2dry7fdghp3h9 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 (squeeze) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 14 12:22:04 2013 Received: (at 15896-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2013 17:22:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0cG-0002Yi-7E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:22:04 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:45703) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh0cE-0002YC-3D for 15896-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:22:03 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MW900000J95DZ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15896-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:21:55 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MW90005QK8IDC70@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:21:55 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:21:39 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options In-reply-to: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Jambunathan K Message-id: <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896-done Cc: 15896-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Jambunathan K > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:29:55 +0530 > > 24.3.50; Org-8.0 on trunk: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new > export options > > All exporters are new and I expect the below command to report something > interesting. > > Please review and correctly tag defcustoms declared in ox.el and ox-*.el > are > > More details here: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-11/msg00474.html > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-11/msg00475.html Stop this. That discussion you mention clearly indicated that the maintainers think there's no bug here, and won't fix it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 14 12:57:57 2013 Received: (at 15896-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2013 17:57:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh1Az-0004an-Eb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:57:57 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com ([209.85.220.49]:65005) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh1Av-0004aY-Ux for 15896-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:57:55 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id lf10so2379308pab.8 for <15896-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:57:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=30D66HAUfHAC1k2lyiiXhG5VzAWmJMBqU2wJ9Qjnfmo=; b=Eup0kyHif6ijFV/0nKThUV/KZaVqzI4/n2Mv5D9s3fukl2qduOadd4mOD0svs0FcSa YMc10iYPP3sxH/iz0NC3iwJHukr7laLcoqK9K2p85gMpwlmWQ8GsVJA+00t08iZ3dkwG 5+nd4kgjU3b7JjeXPJN5EMANmMSDR75DqvJdtD2VYoYTuxNgXCIjQIfNRKzkZqwNHT3T 0Qpi6ngzLmD6bLbczi4YcLheVbaRW0LPrqSMScztq3UoJX7jBznApMS3ZJMizSDy+aeM lhFHGDmynp7pS7CSj1Mf3/NDMLUveoQK51oPxmde3v0bQknBHevW/SnD3WiZxCnYObgu AOGg== X-Received: by 10.68.52.231 with SMTP id w7mr2632547pbo.19.1384451867898; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.244.236.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xe9sm630288pab.0.2013.11.14.09.57.45 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:57:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:27:45 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:21:39 +0200") Message-ID: <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896-done Cc: 15896-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Stop this. That discussion you mention clearly indicated that the > maintainers think there's no bug here, and won't fix it. When a library is distributed with Emacs it needs to conform to certain conventions. I use M-x customize-changed to explore new options. It is ONE of the standard ways to explore new features. You are really willing to let go of standard conventions and practices seems to me like the case of a tail wagging the dog. Look at the facts and make up your mind. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 14 13:21:22 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2013 18:21:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52492 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh1Xe-0005DO-0U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:21:22 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:43289) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh1Xb-0005D7-Cp for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:21:20 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MW900N00MS00B00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:21:13 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MW900MMEMZAYM60@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:21:11 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:20:55 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options In-reply-to: <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Jambunathan K Message-id: <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 Cc: 15896@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Jambunathan K > Cc: 15896-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:27:45 +0530 > > Look at the facts and make up your mind. I already did, as did everyone else. You are the only exception. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 14 13:25:08 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2013 18:25:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52508 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh1bG-0005Jp-UP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:25:07 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-f182.google.com ([209.85.192.182]:48105) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh1bE-0005JH-Ao for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:25:05 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id y13so2349768pdi.27 for <15896@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:24:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=pbdXdyCY0WxFSm5UnDpJfbXrvZAKsd1Pm9NNBRnLPcA=; b=vSnOwa9gVwidKfI42mieIO4m/7Z0xVHl4LwvIBU8D0R2Cm/i9p4IIP6Zt3BfeBx2rg VogsXTpiQAEE330SNZIGAGapXOE+diQhu8JKYvXJHFF04Y3aTbx7RIJKjZlt7DrV1VSA 74cfjpqPrIdgd4oSAOBv2PebAl/5lvxBzJjL0Cy+3viy5Bj1xmOVLxKoGhhgWivhtUpJ gZqQ8VcOn0M1C4SBVqL2K4/7fqOKxBq2FBcqcA3idzAQr8GTF2wH2/iDyAinraETARrK Ol2c16F8RgvPFqyMK3lrl6U1Ar+swBoBNAnH7QyyQRERYyK3/GOC6ZjprbUb/fbdjp4u NNFw== X-Received: by 10.68.166.67 with SMTP id ze3mr2678121pbb.173.1384453498412; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:24:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.244.236.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gg10sm53063359pbc.46.2013.11.14.10.24.55 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:24:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:54:55 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:20:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87zjp6hmdk.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 Cc: 15896@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Look at the facts and make up your mind. > > I already did, as did everyone else. You are the only exception. Funny. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 02:28:41 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2013 07:28:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57925 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhwme-00021b-H3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:28:41 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47]:63568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhwPV-0001TQ-3P for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:04:45 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id rr4so3867392pbb.6 for <15896@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:04:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=UjZ9SGnVZ/ebQcHUD2xsi4yw2BbPBL2sO2ITpW/+ZwI=; b=i2Qz9oXBKyxK8EAcG/X0QbQ7GKNosZ9usqfao4cgK9nPlA3VZMn1Alr9WdKZNTr+0B Yq4761wlU5QxSZ6RCkN4drlIq63VBsMPur6fH2hPkQNxP6QTi9mQy8HOivEvrIPM3Ynu 0kaBIp4XMVYo/JL40AS0Jb9ZGLSaIQX8bb+vjkh/YCNCWRn75ojITUKVQHrBridXUqnn 3lr4beKLbRLKU/dyx2zaN08xJvXI9iilXsrYAXnNQTt7fZfAd6k4a2puZwL6EUSv2CXL 12mV9Dl7caP+Drk5wGVvNMW3wwCEBEoWflHGaL01vuH5CTK2FTWENqZVlJwFf+h95MHr ND8w== X-Received: by 10.66.163.164 with SMTP id yj4mr15205697pab.91.1384671878557; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.172.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qz9sm13931166pbc.3.2013.11.16.23.04.35 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:04:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:35:01 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:20:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:28:38 -0500 Cc: 15896@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > I already did, as did everyone else. You are the only exception. I am not the only exception. See this post, where the change in the prefix is affecting existing customization. One of the suggestions I made was to establish an alias or an obsolete alias for defcustoms. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2013-11/msg00601.html ,---- From that post: | | The name of the variable is org-export-with-sub-superscripts. | | Maybe org-use-sub-superscripts is a remnant that should be deleted: not | sure why it is still around. I note that it is defined and used in | org.el, whereas org-export-with-sub-superscripts is defined and used in | ox.el. `---- In my frank opinion, you fall in to the errro of mixing the message and the medium. This bug was dissmissed merely because it came from me... Bastien was not involved with exporters (in any sense) and he wants to avoid grunt work by being argumentative with me. Now, if you are siding with his arguments and not make up your mind, you are just being whimsical. It was rude of you to close the bug of which you nothing about. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 02:49:47 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2013 07:49:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57955 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhx74-0002aD-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:49:47 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com ([74.125.82.174]:43973) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhx70-0002Zp-BR for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:49:42 -0500 Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id t61so5011390wes.5 for <15896@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:49:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=W9OlXuHjpHd0cvaj/38MFuklEtzhfYjnmvpI2JDYtGQ=; b=i5CFVa28ofVARcI0uBE6tjKpowcX3YF+qS/M2PeKBM9nxvpNNumwlM8xqRlLt/+9Tx 7wbpdCM1gJURY1f+6Gdsj4PpDkYDgUH+GM09Sgnqa9ew6WLMBcfFuGzXEFOFabwt2vM2 fqpJ078pLl9WLv+UYXHwtO4KQmP2Aa7sFLJ12SarWu6I05CEzHhY5Mdr7GJx6urvScrO o+Y3DtKfN6sbCkSFy8K7kCGB87a9BHVTzl6IXkObtdzBRJxuAKoUwOiX8ipuHZsZ+mkP xDSG44MTfCpst/hgJhNX2F1owx09hmpf5eZIYFtqkMvHOG6+6t3CjA35WPmIbAj52x5q CcxQ== X-Received: by 10.180.9.71 with SMTP id x7mr12541821wia.28.1384674576362; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eu11sm11874206wid.10.2013.11.16.23.49.34 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 349931C20080; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:49:33 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien To: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options In-Reply-To: <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:35:01 +0530") References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:49:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87habb79iq.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 15896@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Jambunathan K writes: >> I already did, as did everyone else. You are the only exception. > > I am not the only exception. See this post, where the change in the > prefix is affecting existing customization. One of the suggestions I > made was to establish an alias or an obsolete alias for defcustoms. > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2013-11/msg00601.html I enhanced the docstrings of `org-export-with-sub-superscripts' and `org-use-sub-superscripts' to explain the decoupling of these two variables since 8.0, and I fixed the :version and :version-package. Thanks for the heads up. -- Bastien From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 04:02:52 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2013 09:02:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhyFn-0004ML-IV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:02:51 -0500 Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:60503) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhyFl-0004MD-Iw for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:02:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=maGRNByCqf2WwqrZaZgEvyv/u3JKXLRle6YwsPIvkG4=; b=Y6bpCKVCsc0kCjNWhTLNr5eYnaMb6g0RvSCfpGo2sSiUhUaTndsDR4JjRtpipMlmOv8sIN8BOoPWbxz8K1DFCpJZhFxVuBrcg6kTWqLy5B3cOi6+BD27pLZCHe3Pas05; Received: from dslc-082-083-063-096.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.63.96] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhyFj-0002TX-Lk; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:02:47 +0100 From: David Engster To: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options In-Reply-To: <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:35:01 +0530") References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:02:37 +0100 Message-ID: <878uwn764y.fsf@engster.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 15896@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Jambunathan K. writes: > It was rude of you to close the bug of which you nothing about. It was rude of you to close all your existing bugs. Did it cross your mind that maybe people already started working on those? This is not a playground for your ego trips. -David From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 05:02:01 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2013 10:02:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58119 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhzB2-0005om-0o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:02:01 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com ([209.85.192.172]:56785) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhxLk-0002wj-As for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:04:57 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id g10so924413pdj.3 for <15896@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:04:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=DscBEi8Zx/S2qKmmMuHuGVdHfcF8+v/sTfmiSkv2eCw=; b=V02ySke2UlVZuXIn6iza7TnLJWGVxKWsda3BBWLc5hfHngehKaOLLh+CQhqCsawPGH wWiV+Y00mkoBT4pETLXhKwLjkyV7DL8xNwFJ72sEkjuGa0rkUlYh9sFI8vP1Xb/WWA2Z iMYTyHtmAXChvLAmBKG42nEgvy+/fQi56acl3pL+0Q3Ihz9zEFFb0XEbs4MMXfxwYBtw fFqqUa5pwL1gGend858eIBFiaTLRlWBCi/jVFbHklpTsmhs3mqYgiCy8pkZ6LwucHnmX nWruk6bhk7zV3lSGTmLYBhkz/AFbv+OncVyTg3WlfAwgk9CZdFjjln+vHQeEG1peUemT 6HGg== X-Received: by 10.68.252.68 with SMTP id zq4mr451391pbc.154.1384675490245; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.172.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq3sm15489060pbc.35.2013.11.17.00.04.47 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:04:49 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: Bastien Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> <87habb79iq.fsf__28114.0846469954$1384674661$gmane$org@bzg.ath.cx> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:35:04 +0530 In-Reply-To: <87habb79iq.fsf__28114.0846469954$1384674661$gmane$org@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:49:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87a9h3ihcf.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:01:58 -0500 Cc: 15896@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Bastien writes: > I enhanced the docstrings of `org-export-with-sub-superscripts' and > `org-use-sub-superscripts' to explain the decoupling of these two > variables since 8.0, and I fixed the :version and :version-package. You are good at PR. There are more variables that need work... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 05:02:02 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2013 10:02:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58121 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhzB3-0005op-AE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:02:01 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.220.51]:34447) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhykq-00057E-RK for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 04:34:57 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fb1so5416150pad.24 for <15896@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 01:34:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=T8fU0v3xHPee5SfmBHJl8CBPPXYolBjrLgl2a3+PtN4=; b=pYDqJnojRTwm/15oPcExZtSDZI9y0fGgyQBnIvx0bi5LnA3xGhV3xzVHtXwCZwi+r3 oN7qpzn7kyNcpTvXrI3HuIMZNLBS+EzqW/UEJomu8W3YqSmN4zjGTpM/n7HpvY38t3xS fXPV2eJSf2jQ2nqbnAKyhmeXOvQHdOP1ZvDpOnbqbSJcSUSsuIP1ym490a/ZlOvZiLDa 2lRhmMA7BCCXqfCAcN6BV3hy6/MivCwp9q0t1vllCeY3LRLtdqc8bOmvsuYBKQlLRjW0 /LuqXJvj/CRQtr2q+HUZXUmT0ubM7TTtaiuRQn48hCFYeyp149tJHJUNmbJDmev9DQL/ QWiw== X-Received: by 10.66.51.199 with SMTP id m7mr1789339pao.138.1384680890854; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 01:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.172.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ae5sm12703953pac.18.2013.11.17.01.34.48 for <15896@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Nov 2013 01:34:50 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: 15896@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> <878uwn764y.fsf@engster.org> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:05:13 +0530 In-Reply-To: <878uwn764y.fsf@engster.org> (David Engster's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:02:37 +0100") Message-ID: <87d2lznzfy.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:01:58 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) David Engster writes: > This is not a playground for your ego trips. Or Eli Zaretskii's. That's precisely my point. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 05:41:00 2013 Received: (at 15896) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2013 10:41:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58155 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhzml-0006lW-TZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:41:00 -0500 Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:60558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhzmj-0006kw-69 for 15896@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 05:40:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=QFzrMyGv6qtEIO3OnmiVKG/uI97u/GFnQvmXaiZqJ4w=; b=QkUqKXaNCsVAqKUT+5gGnLqJ/UdMmC8f+BwclfXnU/PRKmaCxHhi7H+jnI8mW/av0YzCqZN6vdCPw2hN9+7urQKX02dBQJ4z0mC7Am6eBDG3CnInFcuaLedz7BGGLY+s; Received: from dslc-082-083-063-096.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.63.96] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhzmO-0003KX-5H; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 11:40:36 +0100 From: David Engster To: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: bug#15896: 24.3.50; Org-8.0: M-x customize-changed 24.3 doesn't show new export options In-Reply-To: <87d2lznzfy.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:05:13 +0530") References: <87wqka2a2c.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwl6zyos.fsf@gnu.org> <874n7ej27a.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2m2zvy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjp3y0de.fsf@gmail.com> <878uwn764y.fsf@engster.org> <87d2lznzfy.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 11:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: <874n7b71lp.fsf@engster.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15896 Cc: 15896@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Jambunathan K. writes: > David Engster writes: > >> This is not a playground for your ego trips. > > Or Eli Zaretskii's. That's precisely my point. Nobody cares for your "points" if you're pulling stunts like closing all bugs you've opened. I for one am done talking to you. -David From unknown Fri Jun 20 05:38:15 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 12:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator