From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 10 03:26:13 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2013 08:26:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45220 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VfQLS-00032z-KS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:26:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35414) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VfQLP-00032l-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:26:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VfQLF-0002oM-5G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:26:02 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56485) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VfQLF-0002oI-28 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:25:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37113) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VfQL9-0006Q7-Jr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:25:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VfQL4-0002n9-Bz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:25:51 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229]:64331) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VfQL4-0002n5-4h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:25:46 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id wy17so3970102pbc.28 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:25:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=bi5Q57077bpyFIYfc0aJR635UMY37jxzim9hjwBOr34=; b=qtDHXYvwLKTED3lNQrU+jwZnejwxrDAfTlbw115AGedTyM5qfgvIXjwxBIasBXT7LO 0fGe+cik4d6qVOJscgwHRB3eF27RVXy2xxUJnQHGp+tGzDvR3GSWEb7SGgdxIKK+2dns n43WM5rihTasNr//3vYUxDEflKX6MF/W9GcKkt23rxKKa3YPlZrKl9A5237KTHhjq7bB G6n/RtUO6yFQFTl9q32Ef6A3vW5r4721E4MvViCLfsAHm9HzzUkO1Pbg8i0AZlkui+Ki 4iVYD5W4fk7CwnZtV+hAxHnQTdod6vISyAacpxiVFpY3Qws8A/zBqTCLhrmWHU1sbDc6 /lCQ== X-Received: by 10.66.27.68 with SMTP id r4mr7017497pag.65.1384071945253; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:25:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([101.63.140.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wd6sm26969037pab.3.2013.11.10.00.25.42 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:25:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; cperl-mode: autohelp not working Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:56:05 +0530 Message-ID: <874n7kpsrm.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) 24.3.50; cperl-mode: autohelp not working 1. C-x C-f somefile.pl 2. M-x cperl-mode 3. Put your cursor on some keyword - say `return'. 4. C-c C-h v See the following in the echo area. return(LIST) 5. Turn autohelp on. M-x cperl-toggle-autohelp Wait. Wait. Keep waiting. Nothing happens. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.4 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2013-11-09 on debian-6.05 Bzr revision: 115051 jan.h.d@swipnet.se-20131109111953-cysfi19meuidy96q Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 (squeeze) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 11 19:58:26 2013 Received: (at 15851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2013 00:58:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg2JF-0007lO-Ra for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:58:26 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49245 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg2JD-0007lE-Hi for 15851@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:58:23 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg2JC-0006RS-Tz; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:58:22 -0500 From: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#15851: 24.3.50; cperl-mode: autohelp not working References: <874n7kpsrm.fsf@gmail.com> to: 15851@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spook: MD4 passwd SCUD missile Albright plutonium pipeline X-Ran: p|87y/8Ae4ag5tVCr_U8c+vwsR572\I/@GdF'F{[JGH)iBeO@|UNt[3bE=gH,e;x,_;>$# X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:58:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874n7kpsrm.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:56:05 +0530") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15851 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Jambunathan K wrote: > 5. Turn autohelp on. M-x cperl-toggle-autohelp That turns it off, as indicated by the message "Perl help messages will not be automatically shown now.". > Wait. Wait. Keep waiting. Nothing happens. I've never used cperl-mode, but: C-h f cperl-toggle-autohelp -> Delay of auto-help controlled by `cperl-lazy-help-time'. C-h v cperl-lazy-help-time -> Its value is nil. *Not-nil (and non-null) means to show lazy help after given idle time. Seems like a dumb default, but there you go. So emacs -Q --eval '(setq cperl-lazy-help-time 1)' seems to work fine. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 11 19:59:05 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2013 00:59:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg2Js-0007nX-I3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:59:05 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49265 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg2Jq-0007mt-8r for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:59:02 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg2Jp-0000YY-Ns for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:59:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:59:01 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15851 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) tag 15851 notabug From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 11 23:53:02 2013 Received: (at 15851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2013 04:53:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47758 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg5yH-0006BB-KN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:53:01 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-f182.google.com ([209.85.192.182]:41216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vg5yF-0006An-DB for 15851@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:53:00 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id y13so3460217pdi.13 for <15851@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:52:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=DF3WpyRDkdM/n/LNOlOs4X99SH7ijtRCVkP3CRFGZPA=; b=X9IQ881yZAao0DhWTKrXJxdDFgDhqTCGR+ZAcLXE9niovuvuL5+BDhTPC4HIVBeq0H FGHBIl7EAgSZ+a6exOWyencpU0LgiHonOih6nIsI0EAXI7K9mhJ1ml7D1kcD1zOn/6d2 F3GA8+Bz1JMJUlL9OK/gk31sTXzhnQtSWK9iQRKsIvMzDmOCcca9df85kM6wdC7+XA4D CC7f3FBqM2ecCjrsfok4CpKBSZcgLaxCLekGNGBXGRQB2N1N3uFYZB8Bhqb5OrxeHqbs ISfsCdjcQ7FfWZ2gs46n4aG4fIiBNUtvku+u6FrgKaBUekjabFWYUBnkKIBrjq0sdzVF DiaQ== X-Received: by 10.66.136.167 with SMTP id qb7mr34579634pab.43.1384231973198; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.20.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qf7sm40481381pac.14.2013.11.11.20.52.50 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#15851: 24.3.50; cperl-mode: autohelp not working References: <874n7kpsrm.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:23:49 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:58:22 -0500") Message-ID: <87mwlakyoy.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15851 Cc: 15851@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) Glenn I don't see any changes to cperl-mode.el (as of rev 115070). I cannot quite agree how this can be "notabug". Dumb defaults are bugs in my opinion. Either fix the bug or leave the bug open. > C-h v cperl-lazy-help-time > > -> Its value is nil. > *Not-nil (and non-null) means to show lazy help after given idle time. > > Seems like a dumb default From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 00:16:43 2013 Received: (at 15851-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2013 05:16:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53698 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhBlq-0002dg-JE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:16:42 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]:46839) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhBln-0002dR-Ve for 15851-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:16:40 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id un15so3080971pbc.33 for <15851-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:16:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=J031GXewnaACqsprHRq7ZhAivpOG36ggI7TgI07VQ78=; b=onq8Jw6jl6RfeoX7vZH2TlMgnBWCCZZ7KoXumawU7MaiRwuyGe5ucZOrzsYGB4Ujtw wHym9hj1ryRqTIi7/chYCMZywizIh4Fszuokx5bT6bnzF8aN82hFtEZUCLFBxW3UI30Q yEn/6bNowfpJI9b72yTKdy4q+X3sZ51MBRD7sFVrxUsyHgb7KFoV/rdOhhT1RzF+fkI6 7Q7IPmXdfp+AjUe/YAT2DFyk/Rs1AggyhP24xtjyQ/5tQQOHeO4p1iP1NKc996blN+Hc T43DrcXfWRuqADVYUO1du6hZuO2SwHFKtJC2tWq/iVO8lmsWvNTJ8jn3rq77th2LE7JC F/8A== X-Received: by 10.67.24.7 with SMTP id ie7mr5004417pad.112.1384492594352; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.27.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zq10sm1895370pab.6.2013.11.14.21.16.32 for <15851-done@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Nov 2013 21:16:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: 15851-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#15851: 24.3.50; cperl-mode: autohelp not working References: <874n7kpsrm.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:46:09 +0530 In-Reply-To: <874n7kpsrm.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:56:05 +0530") Message-ID: <87habegs86.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15851-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) OP here. 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