From unknown Sat Sep 06 21:08:07 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#15816 <15816@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#15816 <15816@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month Reply-To: bug#15816 <15816@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2025 04:08:07 +0000 retitle 15816 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month reassign 15816 emacs submitter 15816 andrea.rossetti@gmail.com severity 15816 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 05 19:06:14 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 00:06:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdqdR-0001vP-VI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:06:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38610) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdqdQ-0001v9-8h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:06:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdqdF-0003e9-Qa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:06:06 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:54438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdqdF-0003e5-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:06:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdqdA-0007ox-HD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:06:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdqd4-0003de-Ss for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:05:56 -0500 Received: from mail-ee0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::233]:33350) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdqd4-0003dW-KR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:05:50 -0500 Received: by mail-ee0-f51.google.com with SMTP id t10so2133145eei.38 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:05:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=mrQr3k4J3Nf/GOE2EFYJH93rmqn05hPKHduoC8VgVbc=; b=Mc2jD9/JaY5kEpxtNIwBDVkU61VVnxQVrtWqoEl2TPBtvDYYR8VurnJzd1mF5ksbf8 O9llK5nCXi7MhGDYHaEqm1Gdi0JklHpb2f7mffbL5dixbc+dpn0z1miep9zVxcPoOlyM 5iKOBgVdoyCTFPIIbEy5V2E2e2z9ixZ+PQG6zri2IEzpwZ41vCAQJ8NmyKdI9f+ZAkkx 83xCpPsJntGF0iHrW8j54yMFM6nupvTFmoCTMoKRS5ZlNYDcCjbnWfaT2oaagxk4II6m RBXEXeRzMEGF3otq/zFdZwGPPduG5PJXBUIoz51JPccj46Rc5so1tgAScvO3zBfmvN+T xpWg== X-Received: by 10.15.77.132 with SMTP id p4mr124129eey.95.1383696348792; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from LAPTOP-ANDREA.laptop-andrea.trieste.it (net-93-144-110-32.cust.dsl.teletu.it. [93.144.110.32]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i1sm66441994eeg.0.2013.11.05.16.05.46 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:05:47 -0800 (PST) From: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 01:05:45 +0100 Message-ID: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Hello, when I execute (format-time-string "%h") I get a return value of "" instead of "nov" meaning November, the current date month. On the contrary, execution of (format-time-string "%b") correctly returns "nov". I suppose this is due to the runtime of my Windows installation (an ordinary Windows 7 64-bit) not supporting C99 format modifiers of the C function "strftime". My conjecture came after reading of this page: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/ctime/strftime/ . I kindly ask if someone good-willed Emacs user might see if the problem happens on his/her Windows machine. A test on Linux could be also a useful counterexample. If it affects other users too, my suggestion is to simply add a note in the docstring of format-time-string, saying that modifier "%h" requires a C99-compliant runtime. Thanks for your attention, kindest regards. Andrea In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' Important settings: value of $LANG: ITA locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: w h e n SPC e x e c u t i n g SPC w i t h SPC C - j SPC I SPC g e t SPC " " SPC i n s t e a d SPC o f SPC " n o v " : ( f o r m a t - t i m e - s t r i n g SPC " % h " ) C-j " % b " SPC w o r k s SPC f o r SPC m e : ( f o r m a t - t i m e - s t r i n g SPC " % b " ) C-j O K : SPC I SPC g o t SPC " n o v " SPC a s SPC r e s u l t M-x r e p o r Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. scroll-up-command: End of buffer Load-path shadows: None found. 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[81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id td6sm21269384wic.10.2013.11.05.22.46.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 22:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AC10A1C2004B; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:46:18 +0100 (CET) From: Bastien To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:48:06 -0500") References: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87eh6ujadh.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816 Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Stefan Monnier writes: >> (format-time-string "%h") >> I get a return value of "" instead of "nov" meaning > > I get "nov" here under GNU/Linux. If I may chim in: someone reported the same problem on the orgmode list, this seems limited to Windows users. By the way, the docstring of `format-time-string' suggests that %b and %h are equivalent: is there a difference? -- Bastien From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 05:16:39 2013 Received: (at 15816) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 10:16:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36698 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve0A7-0000DZ-LO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:16:39 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:50626) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve0A3-0000DH-IC for 15816@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:16:32 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVU00K0071Y9R00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15816@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:16:26 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVU00JJ877DXA60@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:16:25 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:16:26 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month In-reply-to: <87eh6ujadh.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Bastien Message-id: <83bo1x7s3p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> <87eh6ujadh.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816 Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Bastien > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:46:18 +0100 > Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org > > By the way, the docstring of `format-time-string' suggests that > %b and %h are equivalent: is there a difference? Not AFAIK. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 05:16:10 2013 Received: (at 15816-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 10:16:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36695 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve09h-0000Ct-NA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:16:10 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:50467) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve09e-0000CK-J0 for 15816-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:16:07 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVU00K0071Y9R00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15816-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:16:00 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVU00JWU76NMYB0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:16:00 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:16:00 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month In-reply-to: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com Message-id: <83d2md7s4f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816-done Cc: 15816-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 01:05:45 +0100 > > when I execute > > (format-time-string "%h") > > I get a return value of "" instead of "nov" meaning > November, the current date month. On the contrary, > execution of > > (format-time-string "%b") > > correctly returns "nov". I suppose this is > due to the runtime of my Windows installation > (an ordinary Windows 7 64-bit) not supporting > C99 format modifiers of the C function "strftime". Indeed, Windows version of strftime doesn't support %h. > If it affects other users too, my suggestion is to > simply add a note in the docstring of format-time-string, > saying that modifier "%h" requires a C99-compliant > runtime. Done. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 08:31:50 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 13:31:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36909 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve3D4-0007NZ-5O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:31:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50691) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve3D2-0007NI-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:31:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve3Co-0000J3-60 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:31:43 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53515) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve3Co-0000Ip-3X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:31:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52217) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve3Cg-0004la-Fm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:31:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve3CY-0008WR-Dj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:31:26 -0500 Received: from ptmx.org ([178.63.28.110]:48128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve3CY-0008Vw-8C; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:31:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A223236E7; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 14:31:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ptmx.org Received: from ptmx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptmx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54XcKdlcz9G1; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 14:31:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from descartes.localnet (chello080108246092.7.14.vie.surfer.at [80.108.246.92]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6052A2A6F3; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 14:31:13 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:31:04 +0100 Message-ID: <3369232.afZtqa4znz@descartes> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.2 (Linux/3.11.0-12-generic; KDE/4.11.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <83d2md7s4f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2md7s4f.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) On Wednesday 06 November 2013 12:16:00 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 01:05:45 +0100 > > correctly returns "nov". I suppose this is > > due to the runtime of my Windows installation > > (an ordinary Windows 7 64-bit) not supporting > > C99 format modifiers of the C function "strftime". >=20 > Indeed, Windows version of strftime doesn't support %h. I just compared the docstring to the manpage of strftime on GNU/Linux a= nd the=20 following symbols are not ANSI C - %C is SU - %G,%g are TZ - %h is SU (%b) - %e is SU (%d with blanks) - %u is SU - %V is SU - %k is TZ (%H with blanks) - %l is TZ (%I with blanks) - %N not in manpage or glibc manual - %z is SU - %s is TZ - %D is SU ("%m/%d/%y", should not be used) - %T is SU ("%H:%M:%S") - %R is SU ("%H:%M") - %r is SU ("%I:%M:%S %p") - %t is SU (\t) - %n is SU (\n) (SU :: Single UNIX Specification and TZ :: Olson's timezone package) Maybe we should not mention %h, %D, %T, %R, %r, %t, %n at all because t= hese=20 can be replaced by the portable alternatives mentioned. The rest might= be a=20 bit tricky to replace. Could you try which of them work on Windows at = all? =20 (Sorry I don't have a current Windows Emacs available.) There are also %F in C99 (ISO 8601 date format) and %P (GNU extension, = am/pm),=20 which are not mentioned in the docstring right now. Regards, R=C3=BCdiger From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 11:54:03 2013 Received: (at 15816) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 16:54:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37656 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve6Ml-00046c-2A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:54:03 -0500 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:38519 helo=mx2.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve6MX-00045w-U6; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:54:01 -0500 Received: from relay1.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6B1A688B; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 17:53:48 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=BCdiger?= Sonderfeld Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month References: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2md7s4f.fsf@gnu.org> <3369232.afZtqa4znz@descartes> X-Yow: I have many CHARTS and DIAGRAMS.. Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:16:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <3369232.afZtqa4znz@descartes> (=?utf-8?Q?=22R=C3=BCdiger?= Sonderfeld"'s message of "Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:31:04 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816 Cc: 15816-done@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org, andrea.rossetti@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Rüdiger Sonderfeld writes: > I just compared the docstring to the manpage of strftime on GNU/Linux and the > following symbols are not ANSI C C11 has all of them (execpt %k, %l, %N, %s). Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 12:12:29 2013 Received: (at 15816) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 17:12:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37669 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve6eb-0004a9-4z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:12:29 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:40618) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve6eZ-0004Zw-JE; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:12:28 -0500 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rA6HCMQC012280; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 12:12:22 -0500 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 42A69B4327; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 12:12:22 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: =?windows-1252?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month Message-ID: References: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2md7s4f.fsf@gnu.org> <3369232.afZtqa4znz@descartes> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:12:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3369232.afZtqa4znz@descartes> (=?windows-1252?Q?=22R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld"'s message of "Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:31:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, RV4754=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4754> : inlines <202> : streams <1069056> : uri <1587462> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816 Cc: 15816-done@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org, andrea.rossetti@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) > (Sorry I don't have a current Windows Emacs available.) Not to encourage you to use the Windows version of Emacs, but I remember once having to debug a problem where the only recipe was on Windows, and being able to run Windows Emacs inside Wine (not perfectly, but good enough to track the problem down). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 06 12:27:09 2013 Received: (at 15816) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 17:27:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37684 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve6sn-0004xW-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:27:09 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:51018) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve6sj-0004wy-9Q for 15816@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:27:06 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVU00100QKYFB00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15816@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:26:58 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVU0014AR4XKQ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:26:58 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:26:56 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month In-reply-to: <3369232.afZtqa4znz@descartes> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=BCdiger?= Sonderfeld Message-id: <8361s57867.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <84mwlics2u.fsf@gmail.com> <83d2md7s4f.fsf@gnu.org> <3369232.afZtqa4znz@descartes> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816 Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Rüdiger Sonderfeld > Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:31:04 +0100 > > I just compared the docstring to the manpage of strftime on GNU/Linux and the > following symbols are not ANSI C > > - %C is SU > - %G,%g are TZ > - %h is SU (%b) > - %e is SU (%d with blanks) > - %u is SU > - %V is SU > - %k is TZ (%H with blanks) > - %l is TZ (%I with blanks) > - %N not in manpage or glibc manual > - %z is SU > - %s is TZ > - %D is SU ("%m/%d/%y", should not be used) > - %T is SU ("%H:%M:%S") > - %R is SU ("%H:%M") > - %r is SU ("%I:%M:%S %p") > - %t is SU (\t) > - %n is SU (\n) > > (SU :: Single UNIX Specification and TZ :: Olson's timezone package) > > Maybe we should not mention %h, %D, %T, %R, %r, %t, %n at all because these > can be replaced by the portable alternatives mentioned. The rest might be a > bit tricky to replace. Could you try which of them work on Windows at all? > (Sorry I don't have a current Windows Emacs available.) All of them are supported, with the single exception of %r. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 15 19:01:56 2013 Received: (at 15816) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2013 00:01:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhTKi-0002fc-Nx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:01:56 -0500 Received: from ptmx.org ([178.63.28.110]:35034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhTKd-0002fR-M9 for 15816@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:01:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B0621FD8; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:01:46 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ptmx.org Received: from ptmx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptmx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3sWVOGcyIVeY; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:01:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from descartes.localnet (chello080108246092.7.14.vie.surfer.at [80.108.246.92]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BABF203A0; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:01:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:01:32 +0100 Message-ID: <1906941.TC3lM9tOaX@descartes> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.2 (Linux/3.11.0-12-generic; KDE/4.11.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <8361s57867.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8361s57867.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816 Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On Wednesday 06 November 2013 19:26:56 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > All of them are supported, with the single exception of %r. I'd suggest documenting %F then. It is the date format for ISO 8601. -- 8< ---------------------------------------------------------- >8 -- * editfns.c (Fformat_time_string): Doc fix. (Bug#15816) --- src/ChangeLog | 4 ++++ src/editfns.c | 3 ++- 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/src/ChangeLog b/src/ChangeLog index 4c3811d..7921b96 100644 --- a/src/ChangeLog +++ b/src/ChangeLog @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ +2013-11-16 R=C3=83=C2=BCdiger Sonderfeld + +=09* editfns.c (Fformat_time_string): Doc fix. (Bug#15816) + 2013-11-15 Paul Eggert =20 =09* data.c: Work around bogus GCC diagnostic about shift count. diff --git a/src/editfns.c b/src/editfns.c index 277e5b6..f17b02a 100644 --- a/src/editfns.c +++ b/src/editfns.c @@ -1722,6 +1722,7 @@ TIME is specified as (HIGH LOW USEC PSEC), as ret= urned by %c is the locale's date and time format. %x is the locale's "preferred" date format. %D is like "%m/%d/%y". +%F is the ISO 8601 date format (like "%Y-%m-%d"). =20 %R is like "%H:%M", %T is like "%H:%M:%S", %r is like "%I:%M:%S %p". %X is the locale's "preferred" time format. @@ -1740,7 +1741,7 @@ but takes up at least N (a number) positions. %EX is a locale's alternative version of %X; %OX is like %X, but uses the locale's number symbols. =20 -For example, to produce full ISO 8601 format, use "%Y-%m-%dT%T%z". +For example, to produce full ISO 8601 format, use "%FT%T%z". =20 usage: (format-time-string FORMAT-STRING &optional TIME UNIVERSAL) */= ) (Lisp_Object format_string, Lisp_Object timeval, Lisp_Object univers= al) --=20 1.8.4.2 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 11 09:42:58 2013 Received: (at 15816) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2013 14:42:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vql06-0007Fb-5h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:42:58 -0500 Received: from ptmx.org ([178.63.28.110]:35661) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vql03-0007FR-DB for 15816@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:42:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134142289D; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:42:54 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ptmx.org Received: from ptmx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptmx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4S2xxLBBNYhn; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:42:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from descartes.localnet (chello080108246092.7.14.vie.surfer.at [80.108.246.92]) by ptmx.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EFDC211A0; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:42:28 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15816: 24.3; (format-time-string "%h") returns "" instead of month Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:42:10 +0100 Message-ID: <1546747.7kdV0yWjTE@descartes> User-Agent: KMail/4.11.2 (Linux/3.11.0-12-generic; KDE/4.11.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1906941.TC3lM9tOaX@descartes> References: <8361s57867.fsf@gnu.org> <1906941.TC3lM9tOaX@descartes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15816 Cc: andrea.rossetti@gmail.com, 15816@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Pushed the change to trunk. Regards, R=C3=BCdiger On Saturday 16 November 2013 01:01:32 R=C3=BCdiger Sonderfeld wrote: > On Wednesday 06 November 2013 19:26:56 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > All of them are supported, with the single exception of %r. >=20 > I'd suggest documenting %F then. It is the date format for ISO 8601.= >=20 > -- 8< ---------------------------------------------------------- >8 -= - >=20 > * editfns.c (Fformat_time_string): Doc fix. (Bug#15816) >=20 > --- > src/ChangeLog | 4 ++++ > src/editfns.c | 3 ++- > 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >=20 > diff --git a/src/ChangeLog b/src/ChangeLog > index 4c3811d..7921b96 100644 > --- a/src/ChangeLog > +++ b/src/ChangeLog > @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@ > +2013-11-16 R=C3=83=C2=BCdiger Sonderfeld > + > +=09* editfns.c (Fformat_time_string): Doc fix. (Bug#15816) > + > 2013-11-15 Paul Eggert >=20 > =09* data.c: Work around bogus GCC diagnostic about shift count. > diff --git a/src/editfns.c b/src/editfns.c > index 277e5b6..f17b02a 100644 > --- a/src/editfns.c > +++ b/src/editfns.c > @@ -1722,6 +1722,7 @@ TIME is specified as (HIGH LOW USEC PSEC), as r= eturned > by %c is the locale's date and time format. > %x is the locale's "preferred" date format. > %D is like "%m/%d/%y". > +%F is the ISO 8601 date format (like "%Y-%m-%d"). >=20 > %R is like "%H:%M", %T is like "%H:%M:%S", %r is like "%I:%M:%S %p".= > %X is the locale's "preferred" time format. > @@ -1740,7 +1741,7 @@ but takes up at least N (a number) positions. > %EX is a locale's alternative version of %X; > %OX is like %X, but uses the locale's number symbols. >=20 > -For example, to produce full ISO 8601 format, use "%Y-%m-%dT%T%z". > +For example, to produce full ISO 8601 format, use "%FT%T%z". >=20 > usage: (format-time-string FORMAT-STRING &optional TIME UNIVERSAL) = */) > (Lisp_Object format_string, Lisp_Object timeval, Lisp_Object unive= rsal) From unknown Sat Sep 06 21:08:07 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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