From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:19:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15811: 24.3.50; enhancement request: provide history for *Pp Eval Output* Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15811 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15811@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.138366864020388 (code B ref -1); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:24:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 16:24:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35971 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjQ7-0005Il-Gu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:24:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38234) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjQ4-0005IW-1k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:23:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjPo-0000vT-TD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:23:50 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjPo-0000vO-PZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:23:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjPg-00039V-6P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:23:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjPW-0000ov-R7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:23:32 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:32816) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjPW-0000oq-Ik for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:23:22 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rA5GNKIU005468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:23:21 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA5GNKpB004642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:23:20 GMT Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA5GNJk4004165 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:23:19 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:23:19 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Consider providing a navigable history for buffer *Pp Eval Output*. This would be similar to `l' and `r' in *Info* or the [back] and [forward] links in *Help*. But instead of adding links to the buffer, use keys or menu items. Currently there is not even any undo in *Pp Eval Output*. It can be useful to revisit previous evaluation results. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-10-19 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 114715 rgm@gnu.org-20131019023520-s8mwtib7xcx9e05w Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG= =3D1' From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:19:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15811: 24.3.50; enhancement request: provide history for *Pp Eval Output* Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 20:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15811 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15811@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15811-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15811.138368307419322 (code B ref 15811); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 20:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 15811) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 20:24:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36235 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdnAv-00051Z-Sh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:24:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48945 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdnAr-00051O-FO for 15811@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:24:30 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdnAq-0008L6-2M; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:24:28 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: X-Spook: doctrine Ermes Soviet DRM target Axis of Evil wire X-Ran: v!r)\,Y\"9MZbqRNr#S3rtEq&Iz^q>ro (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:23:19 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I've never felt the need for such a feature, but if you think this is important, you could supply a patch for consideration. From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:19:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15811: 24.3.50; enhancement request: provide history for *Pp Eval Output* Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15811 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 15811@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15811-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15811.146193878831680 (code B ref 15811); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 15811) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 14:06:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw93s-0008Et-FE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:06:28 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55951) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw93r-0008Em-36 for 15811@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:06:27 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw93Z-0000uO-F9; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:06:26 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:06:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:23:19 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87inz07bn2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > Consider providing a navigable history for buffer *Pp Eval Output*. > This would be similar to `l' and `r' in *Info* or the [back] and > [forward] links in *Help*. But instead of adding links to the buffer, > use keys or menu items. > > Currently there is not even any undo in *Pp Eval Output*. It can be > useful to revisit previous evaluation results. If we're storing the expressions in the history and redoing them, then that sounds potentially dangerous. (There may be something destructive going on.) If we're saving the buffer contents, then that sounds ... unusual. So I don't think this sounds like a very useful feature. Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 10:06:32 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 14:06:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw93w-0008FC-MO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:06:32 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw93v-0008F2-9G for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:06:31 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw93s-0000uo-Rx for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:06:30 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:06:28 +0200 Message-Id: <87h9ek7bmj.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #15811 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 15811 wontfix close 15811 From unknown Sun Aug 17 10:19:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15811: 24.3.50; enhancement request: provide history for *Pp Eval Output* Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15811 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 15811@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15811-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15811.146195142731082 (code B ref 15811); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 15811) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 17:37:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55681 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awCLj-00085G-0W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:37:07 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:28887) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awCLh-00084m-EU for 15811@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:37:05 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3THaxt2024232 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:36:59 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3THawY9014030 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:36:58 GMT Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3THavsN001912; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:36:58 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <87inz07bn2.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87inz07bn2.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > Consider providing a navigable history for buffer *Pp Eval Output*. > > This would be similar to `l' and `r' in *Info* or the [back] and > > [forward] links in *Help*. But instead of adding links to the buffer, > > use keys or menu items. > > > > Currently there is not even any undo in *Pp Eval Output*. It can be > > useful to revisit previous evaluation results. >=20 > If we're storing the expressions in the history and redoing them, then > that sounds potentially dangerous. (There may be something destructive > going on.) If we're saving the buffer contents, then that sounds > ... unusual. It's no different from what we do with `*Help*', except that yes, I meant saving the buffers (output), not automatically reevaluating the sexps. As I said: "useful to revisit previous evaluation results". Your criticism in that case is that this would be "unusual"? Not for someone who uses *Pp Eval Output* a lot. This is similar to requests for saving *grep* buffers etc. The other possibility to consider is simply providing undo, so you can go backward to previous results (and forward again). That would less handy than separate buffers with navigation, but it would be better than nothing. > So I don't think this sounds like a very useful feature. Closing.