Subject: bug#15810: closed (Re: bug#15810: 24.3.50; inappropriate text in (emacs) `Echo Area')

From: [email-masked] (GNU bug Tracking System)
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:56:04 +0000

Your bug report

#15810: 24.3.50; inappropriate text in (emacs) `Echo Area'

which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.

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Subject: Re: bug#15810: 24.3.50; inappropriate text in (emacs) `Echo Area'
From: Eli Zaretskii <[email-masked]>
To: Drew Adams <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:55:36 +0200
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>

> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:39:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <[email-masked]>
> 
> This text has no business being there:
> 
> (We have not explained buffers yet; see *note Buffers::,
> for more information about them.)

It is appropriate for when the manual is read as a book, linearly.

> (We have not
> explained variables either; see *note Variables::, for more information
> about them.)

Irrelevant.

This is not a bug, closing.

Subject: 24.3.50; inappropriate text in (emacs) `Echo Area'
From: Drew Adams <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:39:52 -0800 (PST)
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>

This text has no business being there:

(We have not explained buffers yet; see *note Buffers::,
for more information about them.)

(We have not
explained variables either; see *note Variables::, for more information
about them.)

Include the cross references, but drop the unhelpful commentary.

This text seems based on an assumption that reading is linear, from page
1 to the current page.  This was not true back in the 1980s, when Info
was created, and it certainly is not true today.  Reserve such text (if
at all) for the printed manual.

In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2013-10-19 on LEG570
Bzr revision: 114715 [email-masked]
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1'