From unknown Sun Jun 22 20:55:43 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#15805 <15805@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#15805 <15805@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? Reply-To: bug#15805 <15805@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 03:55:43 +0000 retitle 15805 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? reassign 15805 emacs submitter 15805 Katsumi Yamaoka severity 15805 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 04 17:57:36 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 22:57:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT5T-0002Ub-IE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:57:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56357) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT5S-0002UP-8D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:57:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT5E-0001Vd-Ff for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:57:28 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT5E-0001VZ-Cl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:57:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58017) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT58-0001yz-CG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:57:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT52-0001U3-2t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:57:14 -0500 Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([216.246.15.223]:45403 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT51-0001Tw-Vf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:57:08 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]:34184 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VdT4y-003CxA-JV; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:57:05 -0600 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:56:59 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nyN4GBi9bATlDk0jMypZ9UzLCsY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: root X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (barebone) [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) $ emacs -Q Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, japan-util $ export LC_ALL=C; export LANG=C; emacs -Q It runs. And "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp/language" is found in `load-path'. But, er, it seems to be missing initially. $ locale LANG=C LC_CTYPE="ja_JP.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_COLLATE="C" LC_MONETARY="C" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_ALL= In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of 2013-11-05 on localhost Bzr revision: 114953 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20131104204536-z5efgardvkwk4uw4 Windowing system distributor `The Cygwin/X Project', version 11.0.11403000 Configured using: `configure --verbose --with-x-toolkit=gtk3' Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: ja_JP.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: C value of $LANG: C locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 04 22:48:00 2013 Received: (at 15805) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 03:48:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXcV-0002H2-S2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:48:00 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:60453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdXcR-0002Gm-NY for 15805@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:47:57 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVR00400UBW7Y00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15805@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:47:46 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVR004CLUJM5250@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:47:46 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:47:43 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15805: 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Katsumi Yamaoka Message-id: <83d2mf8q74.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15805 Cc: 15805@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:56:59 +0900 > From: Katsumi Yamaoka > > $ emacs -Q > Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, japan-util > > $ export LC_ALL=C; export LANG=C; emacs -Q > It runs. > And "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp/language" is found in > `load-path'. But, er, it seems to be missing initially. Please step through Fload with a debugger, and see what is going wrong there. Most probably, something is wrong in 'openp'. I don't have access to as system with ja_JP locale to do this myself. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 05 02:30:05 2013 Received: (at 15805) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 07:30:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34964 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdb5P-00080H-4b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 02:30:04 -0500 Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([216.246.15.223]:59928 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdb5L-0007zU-WC for 15805@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 02:30:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]:52489 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdb5E-000S9Y-Lw; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 01:29:53 -0600 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:29:49 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15805: 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? References: <83d2mf8q74.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:C0BZCIWjWI4vfqNXh5mcjVKHWtg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: root X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15805 Cc: 15805@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:56:59 +0900 >> From: Katsumi Yamaoka >> >> $ emacs -Q >> Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, japan-util >> >> $ export LC_ALL=C; export LANG=C; emacs -Q >> It runs. >> And "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp/language" is found in >> `load-path'. But, er, it seems to be missing initially. > Please step through Fload with a debugger, and see what is going wrong > there. Most probably, something is wrong in 'openp'. I don't have > access to as system with ja_JP locale to do this myself. Thanks. I found what loads japan-util is `normal-top-level'. In addition, lisp/subdirs.el hasn't yet been evaluated at that time. Here's an xbacktrace: (gdb) r -Q Starting program: /Work/emacs-24.3.50/src/emacs -Q [New Thread 10568.0x2c90] [New Thread 10568.0x2968] [New Thread 10568.0x2ec0] [New Thread 10568.0x2914] [New Thread 10568.0x37b0] [New Thread 10568.0x1de8] [New Thread 10568.0x145c] [New Thread 10568.0x37d4] Breakpoint 3, Fload (file=file@entry=6349529, noerror=noerror@entry=8468506, nomessage=8468530, nosuffix=nosuffix@entry=8468506, must_suffix=8468530) at lread.c:1044 1044 { (gdb) xbacktrace "require" (0x22a558) "set-language-environment" (0x22a6d8) "set-locale-environment" (0x22a868) "normal-top-level" (0x22a9a0) (gdb) c Continuing. [Thread 10568.0x145c exited with code 0] [New Thread 10568.0x3aa8] [New Thread 10568.0x4104] [New Thread 10568.0x4024] Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, japan-util [...] From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 05 11:20:11 2013 Received: (at 15805) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 16:20:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35967 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjMQ-0005Cr-EL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39951) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjMM-0005CH-7s for 15805@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:20:08 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVS00100TCYP000@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15805@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:19:59 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVS0015MTDBEY80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:19:59 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:19:57 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15805: 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Katsumi Yamaoka Message-id: <837gcm95xu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d2mf8q74.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15805 Cc: 15805@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:29:49 +0900 > From: Katsumi Yamaoka > Cc: 15805@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:56:59 +0900 > >> From: Katsumi Yamaoka > >> > >> $ emacs -Q > >> Cannot open load file: No such file or directory, japan-util > >> > >> $ export LC_ALL=C; export LANG=C; emacs -Q > >> It runs. > >> And "/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp/language" is found in > >> `load-path'. But, er, it seems to be missing initially. > > > Please step through Fload with a debugger, and see what is going wrong > > there. Most probably, something is wrong in 'openp'. I don't have > > access to as system with ja_JP locale to do this myself. > > Thanks. > I found what loads japan-util is `normal-top-level'. In addition, > lisp/subdirs.el hasn't yet been evaluated at that time. Right. And I see that you actually said so in your original report, but I misunderstood you. Sorry. Please try with the current trunk, I think I fixed this. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 05 17:41:51 2013 Received: (at 15805-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 22:41:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdpJn-0008J0-CH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 17:41:51 -0500 Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([216.246.15.223]:57776 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdpJl-0008Il-1G for 15805-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 17:41:49 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]:45953 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VdpJd-001p6b-04; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:41:41 -0600 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:41:37 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15805: 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? References: <83d2mf8q74.fsf@gnu.org> <837gcm95xu.fsf@gnu.org> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SuK669GzJwGiGoePqEunO1QEkhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: root X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15805-done Cc: 15805-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Please try with the current trunk, I think I fixed this. Works fine. Thank you! From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 05 22:49:04 2013 Received: (at 15805) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 03:49:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdu75-0007GI-Lv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 22:49:04 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:36005) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdu72-0007Fk-VO for 15805@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 22:49:02 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVT00G00P5AFV00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15805@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:48:42 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVT00G5JP96F320@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:48:42 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:48:42 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15805: 24.3.50; path to lisp/language? In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Katsumi Yamaoka Message-id: <83k3gm6vhh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d2mf8q74.fsf@gnu.org> <837gcm95xu.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15805 Cc: 15805@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:41:37 +0900 > From: Katsumi Yamaoka > Cc: 15805-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Please try with the current trunk, I think I fixed this. > > Works fine. Thank you! Thanks for testing. From unknown Sun Jun 22 20:55:43 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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