From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13835144516609 (code B ref -1); Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:35:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2013 21:34:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5JC-0001iW-Mu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:34:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5JA-0001iF-Lk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:34:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Iz-000318-IJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:34:03 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38895) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Iz-000314-F2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58501) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5It-00054T-Eg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Ij-0002yx-Ij for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:51 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::234]:44448) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Ij-0002yf-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:41 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id p10so5904826pdj.39 for ; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=bWJWz1fBDG7gz1b/4wge5j7brxMOLi8ggS82LKCKSRo=; b=oB/CGsD+97KhPywWbVX4fgDqexND6n8r4Pbdv2Sd2E9OV7vZQfyqY7+WVW9SUBEmwe OSY/aYxYIGYuRdBZueBncgkQ1K+dK3KyoXWkNIjR0tLU9kJ9Tf2HXtAPgHKhiK3xVPNs Uf8z41Lr2iFX5dFHPJdevRiulNts1mnIYQTXxDyMbgFotiJ6XGSPjMWpQsgvltiZ6c85 nYm6BtR8kmL/TsVEILkZH2RLbz16gbRSxZl1qWevxOqVNEy9cikSDjGAu72uzWtUE7WX rNwfpyHVRBMJpoG7tL3bVnfYhkKhmwEfJHp92VDq3TF0Osy4pETpxAJYACtjK5cgRqsy ZpnQ== X-Received: by 10.68.14.200 with SMTP id r8mr14367081pbc.52.1383514419757; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.244.224.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq3sm23982105pbc.35.2013.11.03.13.33.37 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 03:05:30 +0530 Message-ID: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) NEWS file seems to be lying wrt `cache-long-line-scans' or `cache-long-scans'. I see no entry for these in the manual. Temporary note: +++ indicates that all necessary updates to the manuals in doc/ are complete. +++ ** `cache-long-line-scans' has been renamed to `cache-long-scans' because it affects caching of paragraph scanning results as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.4 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2013-10-30 on debian-6.05 Bzr revision: 114868 rgm@gnu.org-20131030102316-8vif7u6ecyo3yieg Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 (squeeze) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 03 19:36:38 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 00:36:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33233 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd89l-0006CW-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:37 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:57751 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd89k-0006CN-24 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:36 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd89j-0000Ek-JG for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:35 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15797 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) severity 15797 minor tag 15797 notabug From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Jambunathan K Subject: bug#15797: closed (Re: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans) Message-ID: References: <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 15797 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: notabug Reply-To: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:37:04 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1383525424-23893-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1383525424-23893-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 15797@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 15797: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D15797 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1383525424-23893-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 15797-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 00:36:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33230 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd89X-0006Bz-Et for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:57750 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd89W-0006Bs-4H for 15797-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:22 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd89V-0000EL-Cy; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:21 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 15797-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: jihad supercomputer warfare EuroFed covert video FSF X-Ran: jPTbX!)IOB+r];g4GG&?&Qv_40+B(k{Ad@rG~'r (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Mon, 04 Nov 2013 03:05:30 +0530") Message-ID: <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15797-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) cd doc find . -name '*.texi' -exec grep 'cache-long.*scans' {} + ./lispref/display.texi:@code{cache-long-scans} to @code{t}. ./lispref/display.texi:@defvar cache-long-scans ./lispref/positions.texi:performance of your code. @xref{Truncation, cache-long-scans}. So: cache-long-scans is defined, and there are no references to the old name cache-long-line-scans. ------------=_1383525424-23893-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2013 21:34:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5JC-0001iW-Mu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:34:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5JA-0001iF-Lk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:34:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Iz-000318-IJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:34:03 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38895) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Iz-000314-F2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58501) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5It-00054T-Eg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Ij-0002yx-Ij for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:51 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::234]:44448) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd5Ij-0002yf-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:33:41 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id p10so5904826pdj.39 for ; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=bWJWz1fBDG7gz1b/4wge5j7brxMOLi8ggS82LKCKSRo=; b=oB/CGsD+97KhPywWbVX4fgDqexND6n8r4Pbdv2Sd2E9OV7vZQfyqY7+WVW9SUBEmwe OSY/aYxYIGYuRdBZueBncgkQ1K+dK3KyoXWkNIjR0tLU9kJ9Tf2HXtAPgHKhiK3xVPNs Uf8z41Lr2iFX5dFHPJdevRiulNts1mnIYQTXxDyMbgFotiJ6XGSPjMWpQsgvltiZ6c85 nYm6BtR8kmL/TsVEILkZH2RLbz16gbRSxZl1qWevxOqVNEy9cikSDjGAu72uzWtUE7WX rNwfpyHVRBMJpoG7tL3bVnfYhkKhmwEfJHp92VDq3TF0Osy4pETpxAJYACtjK5cgRqsy ZpnQ== X-Received: by 10.68.14.200 with SMTP id r8mr14367081pbc.52.1383514419757; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.244.224.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dq3sm23982105pbc.35.2013.11.03.13.33.37 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 03:05:30 +0530 Message-ID: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) NEWS file seems to be lying wrt `cache-long-line-scans' or `cache-long-scans'. I see no entry for these in the manual. Temporary note: +++ indicates that all necessary updates to the manuals in doc/ are complete. +++ ** `cache-long-line-scans' has been renamed to `cache-long-scans' because it affects caching of paragraph scanning results as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------- In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.4 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2013-10-30 on debian-6.05 Bzr revision: 114868 rgm@gnu.org-20131030102316-8vif7u6ecyo3yieg Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 (squeeze) ------------=_1383525424-23893-1-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 04:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: rgm@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138354004618937 (code B ref 15797); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 04:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 04:40:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33403 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdBy1-0004vN-Sy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 23:40:46 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.220.53]:57423) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdBxz-0004v7-Ny for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 23:40:44 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id kx10so6535751pab.12 for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 20:40:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=tKF6YGi0V6Oaj+RuYvJaRTglCA2Z5AQyFmRWc55C1/I=; b=VD/NRRuj1FXjTMheADSWNA430DarY4HMHhOEeUhbx80xB9h0szXPI3Mc0G1TE+SzU0 lYM+isRI0khLeXJBHQTE4Soxu54YZfygcRmcrDuImcFvAiUHQst/NVwtTcSsFVarVgzX vaTsi8Hqh3nWOMHRsHS3PSN8AXiZmRky6Pk3HYpbJPwAME7j6hSLe5MzSLEbxgT0QBiW Z+NrR9dZO3svx/HLSjZ7hJtwcOg2SJo1KBRWTKff7o79BZT5+lowshPmfHzq8ZsqD17H +7+OpZXTBVHiOgO+306gXvaROVpxKhQ5o/njvO3A0vwwZu+eKHE6jCvCwlHJRL+j3ShJ hYlA== X-Received: by 10.66.12.103 with SMTP id x7mr15989315pab.54.1383540037702; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 20:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([101.63.190.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gf5sm25440083pbc.22.2013.11.03.20.40.34 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Nov 2013 20:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:11:47 +0530 In-Reply-To: <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 03 Nov 2013 19:36:21 -0500") Message-ID: <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Why is this variable in lispref. The variable deserves atleast a mention in the main manual. Glenn Morris writes: > cd doc > find . -name '*.texi' -exec grep 'cache-long.*scans' {} + > > ./lispref/display.texi:@code{cache-long-scans} to @code{t}. > ./lispref/display.texi:@defvar cache-long-scans > ./lispref/positions.texi:performance of your code. @xref{Truncation, > cache-long-scans}. > > So: cache-long-scans is defined, and there are no references to the old > name cache-long-line-scans. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: closed (Re: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans) Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138354685030395 (code B ref 15797); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 06:34:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33453 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdDjl-0007u9-1D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 01:34:09 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com ([209.85.192.170]:43412) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdDji-0007tZ-Ac for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 01:34:07 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id v10so6316081pde.15 for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 22:34:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=clNy7w1zfRJf94eZv624a+lfqfaMyODHg7cU6TN6MMQ=; b=gArHi9rZZmgZ6hSEjRv4P9h11UMoMQHACY4z5xf7uYHb/H1137EJ4FThaK7UBgJw/k 64iENkxtNYWGauYYyg2b3YyznAt8g9ORuhSs4VE2Wp07Gl335t9VtQX+mgqfxfnPdRzH 9nW1z68lUp0YxEVtS+WepNKAK7JSGwVv+fp/fLiEQGBbBG98bYJKMR1r8coFhoUwbKhC 7beSIlTqUN83WnrFXJoDHaUXvjq8hH2EjHE0LK83JTjy7884Nt6w9hKtKqA/RX/sagKk oOZsL7ufeySFtFlzjKQduGm59WYKhRgoqC3lLxxMw5gDNI5Xvl70prpBxZnzjDJnChFs 7vWw== X-Received: by 10.66.102.9 with SMTP id fk9mr16415348pab.41.1383546362439; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 22:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([101.63.190.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xn12sm30664642pac.12.2013.11.03.22.25.59 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Nov 2013 22:26:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K References: <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:57:12 +0530 In-Reply-To: (GNU bug Tracking System's message of "Mon, 04 Nov 2013 00:37:04 +0000") Message-ID: <87k3goptq7.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn, I will not agree that this bug is closed unless (atleast) a reference to this variable is made available in the Emacs manual. Please talk to the OP before closing the bug. Anyways ... From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Jambunathan K Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.13835706256624 (code B ref 15797); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 13:10:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33648 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdJvE-0001il-2k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:10:24 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:56806) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdJvB-0001iT-EX for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:10:22 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([90.186.82.77]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MRUBA-1VFDUC3iie-00SfEo for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:10:15 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:10:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:11:47 +0530") Message-ID: <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:d50NDwWxq+kRZHqj+8IHIYaKqXpuh+ZTxm2lPRi80VLJvllNYfk e4QpuxfTU4BKckD0IdkSVXZdU6/nGj+goB9SURyRjyoCEO7KqA60gG9vva9jsRy9KUDe4ce ctu5rcf+RoKgICiHpAVUGYxZLO7V3vOc7I7yC72sK7Civ/vsI6bQkH8A7Zg+kNehiM2x2PC jKAPlbaK781URjahoxjnQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Jambunathan K writes: > Why is this variable in lispref. The variable deserves atleast a > mention in the main manual. A small note by a user: In my experience, line caching is a highly experimental feature. The first time I tried it - this was 2 or 3 years ago, Emacs crashed reproducably few seconds after setting the variable to non-nil in any buffer (bug 12196). Presumably nobody using Emacs used it that time. After this had been fixed, I tried to work with cache-long-line-scans non-nil, and after some minutes I found that it breaks dired (bug 15148, still not fixed). Not sure how much other problems are to be discovered. So, it's probably better not to advertise it until it works ok. I would love to use it when it worked, btw. Regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138357497117435 (code B ref 15797); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 14:22:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdL3K-0004X9-UG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:22:51 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]:44916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdL3I-0004Ww-SA for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:22:49 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rp8so1057937pbb.31 for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:22:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=LYXPaRyCqLE5a8spKVMdWdRG3Jn98l+kCAaQZsLtwP4=; b=Hxbvt2Iu9njf2z2ELPNS+uafMFRfNZ24hg9Vcf6TiyrZJK2c3A0yhB+SH84PCdsGzz hy49hGaYPegOnwx5ugKznu17g49nuLZeEkRCbtGXgB2emTfE5pI93JxaOda4HN+1ToK6 I5baMozXzQRidqxTULXRETXd1A1k255GAHdEa0s6jawj4a6AA0KI8TwrkPkBqPKWZ0GY vodlU3cOHLvgnjbSZFHnC3qoofo6mwG++Xo1u900OuYb/cjj5g//bDe4VCtFQc43P3Bg TeqaDe1PO4XInmlrz0e955VJx57A+G2ICNDzF6xdkgNET3i9U9uSz70wiqu+VKEpQ5Rw FGZg== X-Received: by 10.66.122.100 with SMTP id lr4mr1787309pab.164.1383574962465; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([101.63.144.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o1sm28484006pbe.37.2013.11.04.06.22.40 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:22:41 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:51:51 +0530 In-Reply-To: <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:10:10 +0100") Message-ID: <87eh6w5jsw.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Michael Heerdegen writes: > So, it's probably better not to advertise it until it works ok. What comes first: Hen or the Egg? Difficult to answer. I happened to suggest this variable on Org-mode list. Having long lines (i.e., avoiding wrapped lines) has it's advantages. It helps produce sensible diffs. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Michael Heerdegen , Stefan Monnier Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138366915221382 (code B ref 15797); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 16:32:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36002 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjYO-0005Ym-GQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:32:32 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:43106) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdjYM-0005YZ-6a for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:32:30 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVS00100TU6T000@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:32:24 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVS0017BTXZPB30@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:32:24 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:32:22 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:10:10 +0100 > Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org > > A small note by a user: In my experience, line caching is a highly > experimental feature. I wonder if we should simply turn it on by default, and leave it there. That way, any bugs that it exposes will be flushed out very quickly. Stefan? > After this had been fixed, I tried to work with cache-long-line-scans > non-nil, and after some minutes I found that it breaks dired (bug 15148, > still not fixed). That bug is now fixed. Sorry, it just seemed to fall through the cracks. The actual problem was very simple, and the fix is a one-liner. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.13836794789599 (code B ref 15797); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2013 19:24:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36191 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdmEv-0002Uk-OH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:24:37 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:53373) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdmEt-0002UQ-BL; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:24:35 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFxLzd/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHgaxH5AOkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFxLzd/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHgaxH5AOkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="37156646" Received: from 69-196-188-221.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.188.221]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 05 Nov 2013 14:24:29 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 00F9960109; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:24:28 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:24:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:32:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > I wonder if we should simply turn it on by default, and leave it > there. That way, any bugs that it exposes will be flushed out very > quickly. Stefan? Let's try it. Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 04:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Eli Zaretskii , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.1383713087551 (code B ref 15797); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 04:45:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 04:44:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vduz1-00008o-7J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 23:44:47 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f43.google.com ([209.85.160.43]:33091) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vduyz-00008b-Lf for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 23:44:46 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id md4so8436772pbc.16 for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 20:44:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=CNIdczAkZ7CQ33x6enkUDX9V2Bf++ha0rQaQHqum/WY=; b=ntGYLBF0q2OAgBWXFfjg7nhwsAcgF8Oid20VTf4Kf2zogKCCY00Csls0WjOMA2drJY sODRoCO+XP5WrC7FaLU0VV6L5i6Qp6r2m8+aie5LtdPABxyAWUKpvz+lyT3zT0qIpn5Z XZBU+JBc7yIpW0WPGNcRsCNBhiiHtrTSa7OR+/1TuKoTIK5GmRabuTKDd9dbAMv1/KLZ aN5funwFq3dLY+yy7MtjSueZGCcPOf4Ny4MAN1uth/pILgaqEvsXTWl9+kpavcAGmrRk 8oDCW0OricrjvJ+dnjp8XR6dOaRzfvEEVzxc49HKjka+dkfj1TTQJoiaQvRmvCHENfTB WWZw== X-Received: by 10.66.191.162 with SMTP id gz2mr1845501pac.151.1383713079535; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 20:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([101.63.203.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gg10sm38286129pbc.46.2013.11.05.20.44.35 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 20:44:38 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 10:14:37 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:24:28 -0500") Message-ID: <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Stefan Monnier writes: > Let's try it. Please don't hide the variable in lispref. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138376094927044 (code B ref 15797); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 18:02:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37733 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve7Qy-000727-NF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:02:29 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:59182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve7Qu-00071s-Ea for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:02:26 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([90.186.77.170]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Maaur-1VKfq32f73-00KATU for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:02:17 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:02:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 05 Nov 2013 18:32:22 +0200") Message-ID: <87wqkltnmk.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:B5Gj02erCWTvwj82+itYpiKE7kt+qKmQT6q/t9zWA8LibXVk2yw H2G7HJ9pnmUxz3rOsmGOXjzOw8ka+wRznRrDmxEtyMkc6Ods06SIeTv+KdHLdnl4Rs5ThvB IZCo5FBZMWTD4A38Y9fCq/P9fQGAdzhKLxj9Fp0CYIfZm/QCyk+fv1bqm293WV5N0a+N/n+ SzCflV7UM/ngcvtV1HY5Q== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > > After this had been fixed, I tried to work with cache-long-line-scans > > non-nil, and after some minutes I found that it breaks dired (bug 15148, > > still not fixed). > > That bug is now fixed. Sorry, it just seemed to fall through the > cracks. The actual problem was very simple, and the fix is a > one-liner. Thanks for fixing, Eli. I'm using cache-long-scans t for 10 hours now and didn't see any more problems. BTW, when cache-long-scans t works now, is there any benefit in setting it nil? The manual says that the only downside is that it makes processing of short lines slightly slower - which is presumably negligible on modern hardware. Regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kjambunathan@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138376188232676 (code B ref 15797); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 18:18:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37745 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve7g2-0008Ut-3u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:18:02 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:38002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve7g0-0008UP-4D for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:18:01 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVU00G00TBD0Q00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:17:53 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVU00FWMTHRR190@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:17:51 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:17:48 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87wqkltnmk.fsf@web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <8338n975tf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqkltnmk.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: Stefan Monnier , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:02:11 +0100 > > BTW, when cache-long-scans t works now, is there any benefit in setting > it nil? We will shortly turn it on by default, as you see from the rest of this discussion. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.13837638183190 (code B ref 15797); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 18:50:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37775 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve8BF-0000pN-Hz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:50:17 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:51111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve8BC-0000p8-1p for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:50:15 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([90.186.77.170]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb003) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LpO8D-1WAB8V3b4X-00fCiw for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:50:07 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqkltnmk.fsf@web.de> <8338n975tf.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:50:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8338n975tf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:17:48 +0200") Message-ID: <87habpicv8.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5escCIYyMbftDvLGRyBuX8Gmm61o7wBWdDK1yxxmLd7sgJtHYqj c7P0ukUoMCETVoZsLjjKBf8Xjc5+HDh4Bf2yd0el1+uFxw+Ezdbv0PGLxW1Sc8lQMgvc/U6 JXfOHkCx5aR8rWuGcMEE5JG8+4X+lr1z9kskao0kWCZKKfO+pAdujR8JBkGIAyfCVL13I0a d4v3pQEakS0rrEBvE+A0g== X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > > From: Michael Heerdegen > > Cc: Stefan Monnier , > > 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:02:11 +0100 > > > > BTW, when cache-long-scans t works now, is there any benefit in setting > > it nil? > > We will shortly turn it on by default, as you see from the rest of > this discussion. Sorry, you misunderstood. What I meant was: do we (perspectively) need a variable at all, when a nil value only has downsides? Why should anybody want to configure this variable to nil (the default value is t now) when it has only disadvantages? That's what I meant. Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii , Michael Heerdegen Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.13837643483945 (code B ref 15797); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 18:59:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve8Jo-00011Y-0l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:59:08 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:31698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve8Jk-000113-N4 for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:59:05 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rA6Iwve4016701 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:58:58 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA6Iwujh012585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:58:57 GMT Received: from abhmt107.oracle.com (abhmt107.oracle.com [141.146.116.59]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA6IwuVm018289; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 18:58:56 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <641abd7d-e14a-4c0c-a218-4ebe88de6234@default> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:58:55 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <<871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com>> <<9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com>> <<87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87wqkltnmk.fsf@web.de>> <<8338n975tf.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<8338n975tf.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > BTW, when cache-long-scans t works now, is there any benefit in > > setting it nil? >=20 > We will shortly turn it on by default, as you see from the rest of > this discussion. Only for visual-line-mode, or in general? Only when there are actually long lines in the buffer, or in general? And the question was not just about the default behavior, but whether there is (ever) any benefit in setting it to nil. The variable is always buffer-local. If it will be on by default, will it ever be turned off? If so, just what turns it off? (I assume I can turn it off explicitly in a given buffer, but what else might turn it off?) Also, I wonder about this part of the doc (I don't have the C source code to check what it really does): "If `cache-long-scans' is non-nil, these motion functions cache the results of their scans" That does not say that they cache only the result of scanning long lines. Is that correct? Do they cache the result of scanning even short lines? [BTW, the doc speaks of both "the cache" (singular) and "the caches", which is confusing. Please pick one, or if there is some reason for using both then please make it clear: why the difference, etc.] From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kjambunathan@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138377080818245 (code B ref 15797); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 20:46:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve9zz-0004kD-Td for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:46:48 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:62491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ve9zv-0004jv-Ra for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:46:45 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVV0020005FWT00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:46:15 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVV002J50D3OX90@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:46:15 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:46:09 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87habpicv8.fsf@web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <831u2t6yy6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqkltnmk.fsf@web.de> <8338n975tf.fsf@gnu.org> <87habpicv8.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:50:03 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > From: Michael Heerdegen > > > Cc: Stefan Monnier , > > > 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com > > > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:02:11 +0100 > > > > > > BTW, when cache-long-scans t works now, is there any benefit in setting > > > it nil? > > > > We will shortly turn it on by default, as you see from the rest of > > this discussion. > > Sorry, you misunderstood. What I meant was: do we (perspectively) need > a variable at all, when a nil value only has downsides? You are rushing forward too fast, IMO. Just yesterday you said the feature was highly experimental. Let's have it on by default for a while, before we decide; meanwhile people will at least have a fire escape. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Drew Adams Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138377140019140 (code B ref 15797); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 20:56:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37873 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VeA9X-0004ye-D0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:56:39 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39417) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VeA9V-0004yO-5H for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:56:38 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVV00H0005B4J00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:56:30 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVV00GSA0U2WJC0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:56:26 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:56:20 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <641abd7d-e14a-4c0c-a218-4ebe88de6234@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83y5515jwr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <"<9jiow9uhoa.fsf"@fencepost.gnu.org> <"<87bo20fh3h.fsf"@web.de> <641abd7d-e14a-4c0c-a218-4ebe88de6234@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:58:55 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com > > > > BTW, when cache-long-scans t works now, is there any benefit in > > > setting it nil? > > > > We will shortly turn it on by default, as you see from the rest of > > this discussion. > > Only for visual-line-mode, or in general? Only when there are > actually long lines in the buffer, or in general? Always. > And the question was not just about the default behavior, but > whether there is (ever) any benefit in setting it to nil. There's overhead of having it non-nil, but it is small, or so we think. > The variable is always buffer-local. If it will be on by default, > will it ever be turned off? When the user does that. > I assume I can turn it off explicitly in a given buffer, but what > else might turn it off? Nothing. > Also, I wonder about this part of the doc (I don't have the C > source code to check what it really does): > > "If `cache-long-scans' is non-nil, these motion functions cache > the results of their scans" > > That does not say that they cache only the result of scanning long > lines. Is that correct? Yes. > Do they cache the result of scanning even short lines? Yes. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138390655717366 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 10:29:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40888 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VejJU-0004W1-VP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:29:17 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:55910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VejJS-0004Vj-06 for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:29:15 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVX00I00WYAPP00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:29:07 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVX00I3WX4IM470@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:29:07 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:28:53 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83d2mb5gre.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Michael Heerdegen , kjambunathan@gmail.com, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:24:28 -0500 > > > I wonder if we should simply turn it on by default, and leave it > > there. That way, any bugs that it exposes will be flushed out very > > quickly. Stefan? > > Let's try it. Done as trunk revision 115033. Let's see what becomes broken by this. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Jambunathan K Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138390662117546 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 10:30:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VejKW-0004Yw-OO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:30:21 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:62649) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VejKT-0004Yh-PF for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:30:18 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVX00B00X64HD00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:30:11 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVX00BX4X6BBK60@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:30:11 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:29:57 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Jambunathan K > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Michael Heerdegen , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 10:14:37 +0530 > > Stefan Monnier writes: > > > Let's try it. > > Please don't hide the variable in lispref. Given that the variable is now on by default, and I see no reason why anyone would might want to turn it off, except fro debugging, does it still make sense to have this advertised in the user manual? If so, why? From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 13:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.13839164214862 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 13:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 13:13:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41117 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Velsb-0001GM-Ad for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 08:13:41 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.220.45]:35663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VelsY-0001G4-Ju for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 08:13:38 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id kp14so2183461pab.18 for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:13:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=ps27Fc0d6wckSE69io43Ze61VSmkqsw6fdy+Vwnl/3U=; b=yjoh7Y81d4LbOQ1kuWp9jrqe/8dETtqYifp1xeNWdGAn8sy4+RbXafJ/3aTONHBXkw iyX9tXtfUqVIxmSv7IwWJVhjhYlKGkt5Mvc8dptssM8bLRpcPdBpYatPt+Yz/ApAiYSS gEJ/EA19dOy8oNTxexMZgOr7DfrMbg+ZiL8UlV78CwEhpbbvqKoedg8zHlbn0xpV+flG ciKYHVC+2Vz5jB9hsZyYZIHZD3zYeOl+V3GEM/u1TKmJlGHTk2FwuwkWLfmxjyJUQWCP Hi6o0oMI+QxczxMGErA8Cveeh5mmQZo6DFsrCmqApuNp4t/S324LWmtQzfbvSA9ei/nq Bi9g== X-Received: by 10.66.66.161 with SMTP id g1mr15189208pat.175.1383916412798; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.148.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uw6sm12078023pbc.8.2013.11.08.05.13.29 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:13:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:43:21 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:29:57 +0200") Message-ID: <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Given that the variable is now on by default, and I see no reason why > anyone would might want to turn it off, except fro debugging, does it > still make sense to have this advertised in the user manual? If so, > why? If you are super-confident, remove the variable :-). Otherwise, re-open the bug and mark it as "wait-and-watch" for the current release and "must-test" feature for the beta builds. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Jambunathan K Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Eli Zaretskii , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.13839193469532 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 14:02:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41191 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vemdl-0002Td-5f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:02:25 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:17070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vemdj-0002TI-5Y for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:02:23 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFpYcl/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFpYcl/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHgbBLZEKA4hhnBmBXoMV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="37376694" Received: from 69-165-135-37.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.135.37]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 08 Nov 2013 09:02:17 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3884360090; Fri, 8 Nov 2013 09:02:17 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:02:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:43:21 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Otherwise, re-open the bug and mark it as "wait-and-watch" for the > current release and "must-test" feature for the beta builds. I think the variable belongs neither in the Emacs manual nor the Lisp manual. It's only useful for debugging performance problems. Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Eli Zaretskii , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138391975810165 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 14:09:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41209 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VemkQ-0002ds-9J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:09:18 -0500 Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com ([209.85.192.172]:33225) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VemkO-0002dg-Ip for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:09:16 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id w10so2187603pde.17 for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 06:09:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Wk56W43bU7Sh8cm0totOt7D/6tMyBdGlLqnM/gCVtxs=; b=r+qiE1PW4izDTSiu2qJ57qTp0DyNTFGX7KVY6NPSOkOpHkDi6VgxW7nN1oKjITYbrw NA748oM5nv9V+Y5f0Lzl/uZEC5dJJduQ+aeZEfVw/47cYdxv4lh1Fo0y2THHVzfS/3Kk IdpBloVvpEhxsVo2WJcJ3TAWzouBUFziyi+CMslvkGgChQBrrniXIbAvp0/RNwNhcLyS rcJVgjcB3YaiR/Ppg+hasRGOzv0Fevb2ygxqdPUKuL1kjJo9Ju1HJYl8Q5RgARarQt0N QrU8AO3G+lDxFrFXaVyLPsxlAvgfNTzixCm7dKbimapmLphnIqMYrvOWyB0bu6hrjCmJ 8aNg== X-Received: by 10.67.30.100 with SMTP id kd4mr16220181pad.24.1383919750178; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 06:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.148.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uq6sm12368821pbc.19.2013.11.08.06.09.07 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 06:09:09 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 19:38:58 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:02:17 -0500") Message-ID: <8738n756kl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Stefan Monnier writes: > I think the variable belongs neither in the Emacs manual nor the > Lisp manual. or NEWS. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Jambunathan K Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138392017010833 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 14:16:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vemr4-0002od-0X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:16:10 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:35805) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vemr0-0002nx-RM for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:16:08 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVY00J007MBC700@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:15:59 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVY00JGI7MN8Y70@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:15:59 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:15:46 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83zjpf3rot.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Jambunathan K > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:43:21 +0530 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Given that the variable is now on by default, and I see no reason why > > anyone would might want to turn it off, except fro debugging, does it > > still make sense to have this advertised in the user manual? If so, > > why? > > If you are super-confident, remove the variable :-). I asked why it would make sense to have it in user manual if it is _not_ removed, but is ON by default. > Otherwise, re-open the bug I didn't close it. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138392121012460 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 14:33:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ven7o-0003Et-RN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:33:29 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f51.google.com ([209.85.160.51]:48364) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ven7j-0003Ea-Lk for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:33:24 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id xa7so2219233pbc.38 for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 06:33:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=Lr3DuyyDLn3JcJLeRCs6/BdVr2NSFjOjL698CE0wr84=; b=ad3zJu30KxGREFcpDcw0szreAcJmxjSdStmBAxcn9sq22ZixZx35HNf65J/j1p9tVG 7fIyWNdsqksyGqEXUnvX9Du7Tf2mlWFYFwxXqwDE8MVXaHDB6925HK71NO+S2dAwetIB nXA/CWloLEZfqi9VEc3wwrID5rQ0NnmkkBvHgGs4RY+iykNCFl4UZhJFWMs6X3WXVXIN e38sERa0SVaKrivYf+IYdZ+weJxSpXzutnVWzbTH7tRpz93mS+zrDkK6fqk8aZZF+f/y FA6Jfoj54ykcEBmwzNMcFhgD3e0k33J2o5mjywHcNjx8VgSUsJEu0wIDFnmjA4POJl6v yOng== X-Received: by 10.66.19.137 with SMTP id f9mr16135684pae.138.1383921197440; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 06:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.148.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v4sm12487565pbq.31.2013.11.08.06.33.14 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 06:33:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jambunathan K References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjpf3rot.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 20:03:07 +0530 In-Reply-To: <83zjpf3rot.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:15:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87vc033qvw.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I asked why it would make sense to have it in user manual if it is > _not_ removed, but is ON by default. Both of us are argumentative. We should stop before it gets worse :-). From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Jambunathan K Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138392383016827 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 15:17:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Veno5-0004NH-5l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:17:09 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:47580) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Veno1-0004Mb-MT for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:17:06 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVY00C00AD9SG00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 17:16:59 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVY00CHWAGAS310@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 17:16:58 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 17:16:45 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87vc033qvw.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83vc0253fm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh6udtqi.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo1v5gpm.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvr7595a.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjpf3rot.fsf@gnu.org> <87vc033qvw.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Jambunathan K > Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 20:03:07 +0530 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I asked why it would make sense to have it in user manual if it is > > _not_ removed, but is ON by default. > > Both of us are argumentative. I'm not. My question was real and serious. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Nathan Trapuzzano Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 19:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Eli Zaretskii , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138393767612013 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 19:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 19:07:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42044 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VerPP-00037h-Q8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:07:56 -0500 Received: from oproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([66.147.249.253]:45352) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VerPN-00037W-W8 for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:07:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 21841 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2013 19:07:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host393.hostmonster.com) (66.147.240.193) by oproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 19:07:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nbtrap.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=RFjRpQedXNYkkd5eJuYH7aa4CqLDMEzWzpV6aXvXLJY=; b=ptf1DL+cpnKLFMuIILpJyuOmaMIo0y3l89wY9htBfmr9pcjICSInT9RvJlIckfO0uPeKV9H4xUW1DrAwBLGmoJJlgw7HwTMKuQPkE4r4h6Cec9Txtawujf7k7n6IKdaC; Received: from [50.90.253.209] (port=56935 helo=Nathan-GNU) by host393.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VerPG-00006a-H1; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 12:07:46 -0700 From: Nathan Trapuzzano References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:07:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:24:28 -0500") Message-ID: <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Identified-User: {1585:host393.hostmonster.com:nbtrapco:nbtrap.com} {sentby:smtp auth 50.90.253.209 authed with nbtrap@nbtrap.com} X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Stefan Monnier writes: >> I wonder if we should simply turn it on by default, and leave it >> there. That way, any bugs that it exposes will be flushed out very >> quickly. Stefan? > > Let's try it. Sorry I'm late to the party, but this broke linum and nlinum for me, using the defaults. Any time I insert a new line, the line numbers get totally messed up--most of them don't even display any more. And then using motion commands sometimes results in really bizarre behavior (apparently only with linum/nlinum so far), such as when I do forwad-sexp and point goes to the end of some sexp other than the one at point. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 20:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Nathan Trapuzzano Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Eli Zaretskii , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138394424927657 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 20:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 20:57:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vet7R-0007C1-2n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:57:29 -0500 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:35706) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vet7P-0007Bs-MN for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:57:27 -0500 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rA8KvQaR018734; Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:57:26 -0500 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 070E9B4327; Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:57:25 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:57:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> (Nathan Trapuzzano's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:07:44 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4756=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4756> : inlines <209> : streams <1070317> : uri <1589580> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) > Sorry I'm late to the party, but this broke linum and nlinum for me, > using the defaults. I tried: src/emacs -Q src/xdisp.c -l .../nlinum.el -f nlinum-mode and then moved about in the buffer, but I didn't notice any problem. Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Nathan Trapuzzano Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kjambunathan@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138394555829882 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 21:19:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42454 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VetSX-0007lu-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:19:17 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:41401) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VetSU-0007lg-B0 for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:19:15 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVY00H00R1EFJ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 23:19:07 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVY00HOKR7VF310@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 23:19:07 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 23:18:54 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83siv64mo1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Nathan Trapuzzano > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Michael Heerdegen , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:07:44 -0500 > > Sorry I'm late to the party, but this broke linum and nlinum for me, > using the defaults. Any breakage that this does means bugs somewhere in Emacs, because the same function that invalidates the scan cache when a buffer is modified also adjusts overlays and markers. So turning this option on does us a favor by exposing hidden bugs that are otherwise extremely hard to reproduce. > Any time I insert a new line, the line numbers get > totally messed up--most of them don't even display any more. And then > using motion commands sometimes results in really bizarre behavior > (apparently only with linum/nlinum so far), such as when I do > forwad-sexp and point goes to the end of some sexp other than the one at > point. I cannot reproduce this, and neither can Stefan, so it seems. Please provide a recipe for reproducing these problems. Thanks. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Nathan Trapuzzano Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138394573430211 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 21:22:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42467 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VetVN-0007rD-PL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:22:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:55656 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VetVM-0007r6-1s for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:22:12 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VetVL-0003CI-2Q; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:22:11 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> <83siv64mo1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Defcon Islam Abduganievich Karimov Cohiba Roswell defense X-Ran: vO#^3eK^l,7+[pLd9/0ZABFDI:<}Q"~@zS>LOLo)@ygSg6;~&Aa#\(?gS;ZTD)Au[j%P<0 X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:22:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83siv64mo1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 23:18:54 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I cannot reproduce this, and neither can Stefan, so it seems. Please > provide a recipe for reproducing these problems. I suggest opening a new report for those issues. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Nathan Trapuzzano Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Eli Zaretskii , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138394664832044 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 21:37:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vetk7-0008Km-T6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:37:28 -0500 Received: from oproxy12-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com ([50.87.16.10]:37365) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vetjx-0008KO-DD for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:37:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 29372 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2013 21:37:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host393.hostmonster.com) (66.147.240.193) by oproxy12.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 21:37:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nbtrap.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=Xwu5cCz6t7fZALk8vASx4rJl53ZOTpzucUImT/HBnJM=; b=ddk8ZgbWTNI8aAoNJJxRWUITnvskP6q1wdwQqZGi1RsT4yVPYe8igis9q1c7m9J1pJzGsql/VckgkFRF9xoWfzH/IYmtnc2s02bkudwAp9E7NnyUpnwD8jHL/telTITb; Received: from [50.90.253.209] (port=58924 helo=Nathan-GNU) by host393.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vetjb-0007Ml-6j; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:36:55 -0700 From: Nathan Trapuzzano References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:36:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:57:25 -0500") Message-ID: <87d2mawp71.fsf@nbtrap.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Identified-User: {1585:host393.hostmonster.com:nbtrapco:nbtrap.com} {sentby:smtp auth 50.90.253.209 authed with nbtrap@nbtrap.com} X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Stefan Monnier writes: > I tried: > > src/emacs -Q src/xdisp.c -l .../nlinum.el -f nlinum-mode > > and then moved about in the buffer, but I didn't notice any problem. Try this with the attached file: src/emacs -nw -Q foo.el M-x linum-mode (you may notice the problem already here) M-x goto-line 10 C-o The numbers in the margin get messed up. I haven't figured out a consistent way to screw up the motion commands yet. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=foo.el Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (defun my-kill-ring-save () "Like `kill-ring-save', but don't deactivate the mark." (interactive) (when (called-interactively-p 'any) (call-interactively 'kill-ring-save) (setq deactivate-mark nil))) (add-hook 'ielm-mode-hook (=CE=BB () (eldoc-mode) (setq lexical-binding t) (setq ielm-dynamic-return nil) (local-set-key (kbd "C-j") (=CE=BB () "Call `ielm-return' and indent." (interactive) (ielm-return) (indent-according-to-mode))) (local-set-key (kbd "RET") (=CE=BB () (interactive) (push-mark) (goto-char (point-max)) (ielm-send-input))) (local-set-key (kbd "C-c RET") 'elisp-macroexpand-next-sexp) (local-set-key (kbd "C-c M-m") (=CE=BB () (interactive) (elisp-macroexpand-next-sexp t))) (local-set-key (kbd "M-.") 'goto-definition-at-point) (local-set-key (kbd "M-*") 'pop-goto-definition))) --=-=-=-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Nathan Trapuzzano Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 23:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.13839523169112 (code B ref 15797); Fri, 08 Nov 2013 23:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2013 23:11:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VevDX-0002Ms-J8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:11:55 -0500 Received: from [69.89.20.141] (port=45438 helo=alt-proxy19.mail.unifiedlayer.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VevDU-0002Mh-FD for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:11:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 13416 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2013 23:11:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host393.hostmonster.com) (66.147.240.193) by oproxy19.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2013 23:11:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nbtrap.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=6QL1xM3AG6izjtP+Y13dUOOT2ud5RIw4ahIh+H1ENm4=; b=iRObb59F+pvZHCZJRmGw/JZ5NV+nrHd6pRvPtCVHoUlmVrgg740vmVtirTxtJiCrEmB+B0MrX5AgSr+48QNxoJu5MoTJiSU0IPaAN7RKuk9obFIUCOHewVGUefLi+/XS; Received: from [50.90.253.209] (port=59347 helo=Nathan-GNU) by host393.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VevDQ-0008DC-Us; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:11:49 -0700 From: Nathan Trapuzzano References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> <87d2mawp71.fsf@nbtrap.com> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:11:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87d2mawp71.fsf@nbtrap.com> (Nathan Trapuzzano's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:36:50 -0500") Message-ID: <87vc02v68f.fsf@nbtrap.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Identified-User: {1585:host393.hostmonster.com:nbtrapco:nbtrap.com} {sentby:smtp auth 50.90.253.209 authed with nbtrap@nbtrap.com} X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Nathan Trapuzzano writes: > I haven't figured out a consistent way to screw up the motion commands > yet. Here we go. Visit the same file and do: [...] Content analysis details: (2.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.6 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT [69.89.20.141 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Nathan Trapuzzano writes: > I haven't figured out a consistent way to screw up the motion commands > yet. Here we go. Visit the same file and do: [...] Content analysis details: (2.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.6 RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT RBL: RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT [69.89.20.141 listed in bb.barracudacentral.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Nathan Trapuzzano writes: > I haven't figured out a consistent way to screw up the motion commands > yet. Here we go. Visit the same file and do: M-x linum-mode C-o C-n C-e Cursor moves almost to end of entire file. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 02:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Nathan Trapuzzano Cc: 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , kjambunathan@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138396468529604 (code B ref 15797); Sat, 09 Nov 2013 02:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Nov 2013 02:38:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43184 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VeyR3-0007hQ-92 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:38:05 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:65105) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VeyR0-0007gu-GI for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2013 21:38:03 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([90.187.149.156]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LkhBY-1WCwGz0j3M-00aWVY for <15797@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 03:37:55 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 03:37:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> (Nathan Trapuzzano's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:07:44 -0500") Message-ID: <877gci1erm.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:TEWsSq6mRCGVFRww1gAX5sxS4kUmiyS6Hs34ddKk8hS/EsVU0AI EhHsbZPFkTcrKMFxiK7l2i1j6VH9WF5v6x661creLSx/YxBURKX7u45VEt0FKLl1TAxdHgp RsdHH3ZiV4SG8S4RHLY64hIoNHWJRsENfklDH9uzVaes7ynpQICWR3W/UQXS/4lnWR5jRl9 rWI9HiOFr8LoxG0dxXi2w== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Nathan Trapuzzano writes: > Sorry I'm late to the party, but this broke linum and nlinum for me, > using the defaults. Any time I insert a new line, the line numbers get > totally messed up--most of them don't even display any more. And then > using motion commands sometimes results in really bizarre behavior > (apparently only with linum/nlinum so far), such as when I do > forwad-sexp and point goes to the end of some sexp other than the one at > point. I see something probably related. Sometimes, evaluating (line-number-at-pos) at the end of my .emacs (10000 lines) needs over a second. Doing (setq cache-long-scans nil) immediately fixes this. Dunno yet how to provoke the problem. Regards, Michael. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:26:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15797: 24.3.50; Info: Mention cache-long-scans Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 08:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Nathan Trapuzzano Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15797.138398605731784 (code B ref 15797); Sat, 09 Nov 2013 08:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 15797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Nov 2013 08:34:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43544 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vf3zl-0008Ga-7N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 03:34:17 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:48348) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vf3zi-0008GN-Km for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 03:34:15 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MVZ00L00M6CZB00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15797@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 10:34:09 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MVZ00LTYMGWQG90@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 10:34:08 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 10:33:57 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87d2mawp71.fsf@nbtrap.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83ob5u3rey.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_y2tj9NUtP+UbBOQC2Y3VZQ)" References: <871u2xf9st.fsf@gmail.com> <9jiow9uhoa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqkopylw.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo20fh3h.fsf@web.de> <834n7q95d5.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4aqww3j.fsf@nbtrap.com> <87d2mawp71.fsf@nbtrap.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) --Boundary_(ID_y2tj9NUtP+UbBOQC2Y3VZQ) Content-type: text/plain Redirecting to a new bug report. > From: Nathan Trapuzzano > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Michael Heerdegen , 15797@debbugs.gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:36:50 -0500 > > Try this with the attached file: > > src/emacs -nw -Q foo.el > > M-x linum-mode (you may notice the problem already here) > M-x goto-line 10 > C-o > > The numbers in the margin get messed up. I haven't figured out a > consistent way to screw up the motion commands yet. --Boundary_(ID_y2tj9NUtP+UbBOQC2Y3VZQ) Content-type: application/emacs-lisp Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: attachment; filename=foo.el (defun my-kill-ring-save () "Like `kill-ring-save', but don't deactivate the mark." (interactive) (when (called-interactively-p 'any) (call-interactively 'kill-ring-save) (setq deactivate-mark nil))) (add-hook 'ielm-mode-hook (=CE=BB () (eldoc-mode) (setq lexical-binding t) (setq ielm-dynamic-return nil) (local-set-key (kbd "C-j") (=CE=BB () "Call `ielm-return' and indent." (interactive) (ielm-return) (indent-according-to-mode))) (local-set-key (kbd "RET") (=CE=BB () (interactive) (push-mark) (goto-char (point-max)) (ielm-send-input))) (local-set-key (kbd "C-c RET") 'elisp-macroexpand-next-sexp) (local-set-key (kbd "C-c M-m") (=CE=BB () (interactive) (elisp-macroexpand-next-sexp t))) (local-set-key (kbd "M-.") 'goto-definition-at-point) (local-set-key (kbd "M-*") 'pop-goto-definition))) --Boundary_(ID_y2tj9NUtP+UbBOQC2Y3VZQ)--