From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 00:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.138248696929584 (code B ref -1); Wed, 23 Oct 2013 00:10:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2013 00:09:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36250 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0t-0007h5-S1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38323) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0r-0007gp-BA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0k-00007W-LT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:20 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:49359) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0k-00007L-IJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40033) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0j-0005qS-1O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0h-000064-RA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48749) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0h-00005y-Ng for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:15 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYm0f-00052m-R0; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:13 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) I found that the crashes in GC result from trying to mark clear-temporary-overlay-map. Its function cell is a vectorlike which pr reports as #. The presence of such an object in the function cell is a bug, and it seems to me that for GC to try to mark the contents of a vectorlike with such a type is a second bug. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.11 (mips64el-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2013-10-03 on chiefs-gnewsense Bzr revision: 114502 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20131002233348-j245zww7t0dfmeng System Description: gNewSense GNU/Linux 3.0 (parkes) Configured using: `configure 'CFLAGS=-g -O0'' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t gpm-mouse-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: r a . x TAB RET d d d u x 1 r C-u C-p C-u C-p C-p C-p C-p ESC f C-f C-f C-k C-x o C-u C-n C-n ESC f C-f C-f C-@ C-e ESC w C-x o C-y C-a C-u C-n C-u C-n C-n C-n C-n C-o W h a t SPC f o r m a t SPC d o SPC t h e y SPC ESC DEL ESC DEL w i l l SPC b e SPC u s e d SPC f o r SPC t h e SPC s t r e a m i n g ? C-c C-c d d d d x SPC C-s [ 2 3 ] C-s C-a C-n W C-c C-c ESC v d d d x T C-c C-c d d d d d d d d d d x C-x b i n o u t RET ESC x g r e p RET C-g C-x b TAB RET i x m a i l / l a p t o p TAB RET C-l ESC - ESC s b u n n i e RET ESC - ESC s RET C-@ C-e ESC w C-x b R TAB 1 RET C-x k RET C-x b 1 r DEL DEL C-g 1 r L a SPC d i r e c c C-\ i o ' n SPC q u e SPC t e n g o SPC e s SPC C-y . RET C-c C-c C-x k RET RET y e s RET r C-_ C-@ C-p ESC w C-x o r C-y C-c C-c d d d ESC x r e p o r t SPC e m a s SPC DEL DEL c DEL a c s SPC b u g RE T Recent messages: Mark set Sending... Wrote /home/rms/outgoing/out-92 Sending...done Please answer yes or no. Undo! Mark set [2 times] Sending... Wrote /home/rms/outgoing/out-93 Sending...done Load-path shadows: /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/net/shr-color hides /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/gnus/shr-color /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/net/shr hides /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/gnus/shr Features: -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 22 20:19:11 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2013 00:19:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYmAI-0007x5-75 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:19:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48908 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYmAG-0007wx-DJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:19:08 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYmAG-0006J3-53 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:19:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:19:08 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15583 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) merge 15688 15583 From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Richard Stallman Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.138253204120739 (code B ref 15688); Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2013 12:40:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37302 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYxjr-0005OO-Ad for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:40:41 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:32106) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYxjh-0005Nu-JL for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:40:30 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFLd+Tf/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxOBSiQ X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFLd+Tf/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxOBSiQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="36150553" Received: from 75-119-228-223.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.228.223]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 Oct 2013 08:40:23 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 63C6D603E9; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:40:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:40:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:13 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > I found that the crashes in GC result from trying to mark > clear-temporary-overlay-map. Its function cell is > a vectorlike which pr reports as #. The most likely explanation is that it used to be a byte-code-function-p object but was somehow GC'd too early. Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13825792487863 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2013 01:47:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39510 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZA1H-00022k-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:47:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:42570 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZA1E-00022b-HP for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:47:24 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZA1D-0007oz-A1; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:47:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:47:23 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:40:23 -0400) References: X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. > I found that the crashes in GC result from trying to mark > clear-temporary-overlay-map. Its function cell is > a vectorlike which pr reports as #. The most likely explanation is that it used to be a byte-code-function-p object but was somehow GC'd too early. If that symbol is interned, why would its function definition get GC'd at all? Similar crashes have occurred several times. This is the first time I analyzed it to see what data it is operating on. I will do it again next time. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 03:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Richard Stallman Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.138258634319071 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 03:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2013 03:45:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39714 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZBri-0004xW-Rk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:45:43 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:37623) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZBrg-0004xK-Jl for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:45:40 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFpZ4I/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxOBSiQ X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFpZ4I/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxOBSiQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="36222484" Received: from 69-165-158-8.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.158.8]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 Oct 2013 23:45:34 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 85A28603EA; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:45:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:45:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 23 Oct 2013 21:47:23 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > The most likely explanation is that it used to be a byte-code-function-p > object but was somehow GC'd too early. > If that symbol is interned, why would its function definition get > GC'd at all? It's not interned. It's "make-symbol"d in set-temporary-overlay-map. Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.138263505816868 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2013 17:17:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41494 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZOXR-0004Nz-Vm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:17:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:55767 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZOXP-0004Nr-Eg for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:17:35 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZOXG-000770-C7; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:17:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:17:26 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 23 Oct 2013 23:45:34 -0400) References: X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. > If that symbol is interned, why would its function definition get > GC'd at all? It's not interned. It's "make-symbol"d in set-temporary-overlay-map. Ok, but apparently the symbol does get marked -- so how did its function definition get gc'd? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 25 15:54:19 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2013 19:54:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZnSc-000110-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:54:19 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:32856 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZnSZ-00010s-Ma for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:54:16 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZnSZ-00007H-49 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:54:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:54:15 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15719 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) merge 15583 15719 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 25 12:04:03 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2013 17:04:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkzZq-0002X6-TI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:04:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:42727 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VkzZp-0002Wh-4T for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:04:01 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VkzZo-0005Me-Mf for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:04:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:04:00 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15972 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) merge 15583 15972 From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 04:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Richard Stallman Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.138561362131329 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 28 Nov 2013 04:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2013 04:40:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48251 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VltOj-00089A-AS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:40:19 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:25824) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VltOg-00088r-9S for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:40:14 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KEh/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kE4gLBsEtjQ+DewOIYZwZgV6DFYFICRcE X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KEh/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kE4gLBsEtjQ+DewOIYZwZgV6DFYFICRcE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="40577488" Received: from 206-248-161-33.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.161.33]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 27 Nov 2013 23:40:07 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3A305601BB; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:40:06 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:40:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:17:26 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) [ Richard, please send all email related to this issue to this 15688@debbugs.gnu.org address, otherwise the thread is nightmarish to follow. ] >> If that symbol is interned, why would its function definition get >> GC'd at all? > It's not interned. It's "make-symbol"d in set-temporary-overlay-map. > Ok, but apparently the symbol does get marked -- so how did its function > definition get gc'd? I have no idea. >From the value you show it seems that the function cell's value is not Vdead. I tend to assume that it's always the case, but just to make double sure: Does your build set GC_MARK_STACK? Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 19:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.138566551432716 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 28 Nov 2013 19:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2013 19:05:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vm6tm-0008Vc-6n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:05:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:42869 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vm6tk-0008VT-40 for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:05:12 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vm6tj-0000yx-L3; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:05:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:05:11 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:40:06 -0500) References: X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I tend to assume that it's always the case, but just to make double sure: Does your build set GC_MARK_STACK? How can I check that? Where would it be set? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 20:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.138566991011746 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 28 Nov 2013 20:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2013 20:18:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49204 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vm82g-00033O-3T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 15:18:30 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:46629) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vm82d-000339-KT for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 15:18:28 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWZ00D00PFV1S00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:17:32 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWZ00COIPP7YN50@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:17:32 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:17:20 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83k3fs8enj.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:05:11 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > > I tend to assume that it's always the case, but just to make > double sure: Does your build set GC_MARK_STACK? > > How can I check that? Where would it be set? It's a macro set in src/lisp.h. You can check it with #warning or some such. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 28 13:49:18 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2013 18:49:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48917 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vwywn-00076R-Sr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:49:18 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vwywl-00076J-Uj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:49:16 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vwywl-0003V3-M6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:49:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:49:15 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 16278 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) merge 15583 16278 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 30 08:29:31 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2013 13:29:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxcuQ-0005pw-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:29:30 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:34159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxcuM-0005pj-Tl; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:29:27 -0500 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rBUDTPDw026644; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:29:25 -0500 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A5F45AE144; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:29:28 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Richard Stallman Subject: Re: bug#16278: 24.3.50; Crashes in GC continue Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 08:29:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 28 Dec 2013 07:27:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4807=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4807> : inlines <367> : streams <1099110> : uri <1639067> X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 16278@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) severity 16278 important thanks > Why create that symbol? Why not use an interned symbol? A comment > says that nested temporary maps don't work anyway. Actually, the code (and the comment) has recently been changed to make nesting work. Oh wait, I see I haven't committed it yet. Should be there real soon, tho. > Of course, the real bug is in GC. The Lisp code is correct and it > ought to work. But I don't understand the GC bug, and no one else > is fixing it. I think it's important to fix this bug, and much better than to try and work around it (without knowing if that workaround actually works). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 22 11:56:02 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2014 16:56:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60864 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W615t-00033P-Bm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:56:01 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53946) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W615q-00033E-Uv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:55:59 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W615q-00066G-8H for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:55:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:55:58 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 16521 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) forcemerge 15583 16521 From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Richard Stallman Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139049894723551 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2014 17:42:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OIM-00067l-UO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:27 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:55124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OIE-00067V-4C for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:24 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFG4rxHA/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFYFIJA X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFG4rxHA/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFYFIJA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="45914706" Received: from 184-175-17-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.17.192]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 Jan 2014 12:42:17 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id ECD8260286; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:16 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:09:13 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > I found that the crashes in GC result from trying to mark > clear-temporary-overlay-map. Its function cell is > a vectorlike which pr reports as #. I'm looking again at this bug but can't find a backtrace. Could you show us the backtrace? Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139051859825887 (code B ref 15688); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2014 23:09:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6TPJ-0006jT-Kn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:09:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56458) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6TPE-0006jG-St for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:09:56 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6TPE-0005yO-2w; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:09:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:09:52 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:42:16 -0500) References: X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I'm looking again at this bug but can't find a backtrace. Could you show us the backtrace? It was mark_object called from mark_vectorlike called from mark_object called from mark_object (marking that symbol). I could not see why it was marking that symbol. ISTR it was called from mark_memory and I didn't know how to see where the pointer came from. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Dmitry Antipov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139053383824275 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 03:23:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33973 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6XN7-0006JR-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:23:57 -0500 Received: from forward8.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.61.38]:51548) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6XN4-0006JF-Fh for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:23:56 -0500 Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (smtp8.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.54]) by forward8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 96365F6068C; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:23:52 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 39BD81B60098; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:23:52 +0400 (MSK) Received: from unknown (unknown [37.139.80.10]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Pz67KJSRai-NpeqmL57; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:23:51 +0400 (using TLSv1 with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Uniq: 1c8f3ff6-e78d-41f6-9f30-bc5f68a7f87a DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1390533831; bh=34DvIZM4b3sW7u2uTV+3UR6lwa8fuB+jlDgIjZv8iYI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hw0P1/84CdPhASxjDsycZrMLnriUQSTMp9k4ePI25vCieUM7qo4Bjfm6WJe0LV5Iw +jpdBN4Ro7AlC8OaNXMys3MppgwZSKy+QwP91Ym39mbuujO4U+ZGNFXyLjg1xn5P6p kGJQAycBrjF952TN1Cd+ZRrh4W9X/bjiaGBdDcUE= Authentication-Results: smtp8.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Message-ID: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:23:51 +0400 From: Dmitry Antipov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 01/24/2014 03:09 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > It was mark_object called from mark_vectorlike called from mark_object > called from mark_object (marking that symbol). I could not see why it > was marking that symbol. ISTR it was called from mark_memory > and I didn't know how to see where the pointer came from. I suppose that this is a kind of heisenbug and so it may be hard to reproduce, but what about the recipe? And, if there is a binary and core, I can build cross-gdb and look inside. Dmitry From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Richard Stallman Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139053412424764 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 03:28:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33977 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6XRj-0006RM-Gk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:28:43 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:46563) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6XRg-0006RB-Ss for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:28:41 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFHO+Jkg/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFYFIJA X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFHO+Jkg/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFYFIJA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="45966735" Received: from 206-248-153-32.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.153.32]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 Jan 2014 22:28:39 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 80F9C6019C; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:28:39 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 22:28:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:09:52 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > It was mark_object called from mark_vectorlike called from mark_object > called from mark_object (marking that symbol). I could not see why it > was marking that symbol. ISTR it was called from mark_memory > and I didn't know how to see where the pointer came from. Please tell us exactly what value is used for GC_MARK_STACK; as Eli said: It's a macro set in src/lisp.h. You can check it with #warning or some such This said, since you have mark_memory in your backtrace, that indicates that GC_MARK_STACK is probably set to GC_MAKE_GCPROS_NOOPS, as usual. Maybe complete backtrace would help, tho. Also, it'd be useful to know what were the last few keys (the "lossage"). Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Dmitry Antipov Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13905753472020 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 14:55:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34372 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iAc-0000WT-0g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:46 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52101) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iAW-0000WD-TN for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:42 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iAV-0001ux-Ux; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:39 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Antipov on Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:23:51 +0400) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I suppose that this is a kind of heisenbug and so it may be hard to reproduce, but what about the recipe? I don't have one, sorry. And, if there is a binary and core, I can build cross-gdb and look inside. Is there a command I can use to tell GDB to make a core file? Maybe complete backtrace would help, tho. Also, it'd be useful to know what were the last few keys (the "lossage"). I will try to remember to send this next time. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:56:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Dmitry Antipov Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13905753482028 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:56:03 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 14:55:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iAd-0000WX-4U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:48 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52105) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iAX-0000WE-QP for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:43 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iAX-0001vE-4o; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:41 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Antipov on Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:23:51 +0400) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Please tell us exactly what value is used for GC_MARK_STACK; as Eli said: It's a macro set in src/lisp.h. You can check it with #warning or some such This said, since you have mark_memory in your backtrace, that indicates that GC_MARK_STACK is probably set to GC_MAKE_GCPROS_NOOPS, as usual. I don't see a way to examine the value, but the only definition I see in lisp.h is #ifndef GC_MARK_STACK #define GC_MARK_STACK GC_MAKE_GCPROS_NOOPS #endif I suggest adding enum gc_mark_stack { gc_mark_stack_value = GC_MARK_STACK; }; in lisp.h or some source file. Then it will be possible to view gc_mark_stack_value in GDB. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13905768344663 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 15:20:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34679 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iYb-0001D9-Q2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:20:33 -0500 Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:46339) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6iYZ-0001D0-9e for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:20:32 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZW00000V99L900@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:21:48 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZW002J5W0BQI10@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:21:48 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:20:28 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83vbx9csoz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:39 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > > Is there a command I can use to tell GDB to make a core file? Yes, "gcore". From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13905770865084 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 15:24:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6icg-0001Ju-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:24:46 -0500 Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:52005) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6icV-0001Jd-Eb for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:24:45 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZW00C00VM5OL00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:23:53 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZW00ASFW3T9740@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:23:53 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:24:33 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:55:41 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > > I suggest adding > > enum gc_mark_stack { gc_mark_stack_value = GC_MARK_STACK; }; in lisp.h > or some source file. Then it will be possible to view > gc_mark_stack_value in GDB. I think GDB can display values of macros, just use it in the "print" command. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13905798629725 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 16:11:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34700 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6jLQ-0002WS-CN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:11:00 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:59454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6jLM-0002WH-BO for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:10:57 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3f9lhH28srz3hhwT; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:10:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3f9lhH0Lt5zbbcP; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:10:55 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22ilmzbsQc-z; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:10:50 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: wFQ8TUsmbSyqh3oOIMqPXaGc5Fa3xhk+xQfhLB+ZCCQ= Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-228-19.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.228.19]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:10:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BA6EF2C03B3; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:10:50 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: I want the presidency so bad I can already taste the hors d'oeuvres. Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:10:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:24:33 +0200") Message-ID: <874n4ttl6d.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think GDB can display values of macros, just use it in the "print" > command. You need to compile with -g3 to make the macros available to the debugger. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Andreas Schwab Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139058779823018 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 18:23:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34783 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6lPR-0005zC-HD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:23:17 -0500 Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:55913) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6lPN-0005z0-PD for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:23:15 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZX00J003NBDP00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:22:56 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZX00HVP4DWT340@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:22:44 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:22:55 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <874n4ttl6d.fsf@igel.home> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83lhy5ck8w.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <874n4ttl6d.fsf@igel.home> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: rms@gnu.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:10:50 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I think GDB can display values of macros, just use it in the "print" > > command. > > You need to compile with -g3 to make the macros available to the > debugger. Right, thanks for pointing that out. Though I think that configure already sets that up, when GCC is used. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13906563712300 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2014 13:26:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35204 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W73FS-0000b0-CY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:10 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44123) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W73FP-0000aq-Ri for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:08 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W73FO-0006Bn-PC; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:06 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <83vbx9csoz.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:20:28 +0200) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83vbx9csoz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Yes, "gcore". Does that alter the running process? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13906563772322 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2014 13:26:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35207 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W73FW-0000bM-Fa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:16 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44127) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W73FS-0000b2-QA for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:11 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W73FS-0006Ch-3W; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:10 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:24:33 +0200) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I think GDB can display values of macros, just use it in the "print" command. I tried that. I think my version of GDB is somewhat old. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13906598298502 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2014 14:23:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35228 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W749F-0002D3-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:23:49 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:33992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W749D-0002Cv-7Q for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:23:48 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZY00300NMOEG00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:23:45 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZY003INNZLDW20@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:23:45 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:23:33 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83y524b0nu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83vbx9csoz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:06 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > > Yes, "gcore". > > Does that alter the running process? No. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13906599588743 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2014 14:25:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35236 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W74BI-0002Gw-TZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:25:58 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:52089) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W74BF-0002Gm-Ao for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:25:54 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZY00K00NZC7N00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:25:52 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZY00JFSO33YT60@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:25:52 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:25:39 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:26:10 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > > I think GDB can display values of macros, just use it in the "print" > command. > > I tried that. I think my version of GDB is somewhat old. What version is that? GDB supports macros since v5.3. Does the "macro expand" command work? Also, what is your version of GCC? From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139069087925327 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2014 23:01:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35971 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7CE2-0006aQ-KA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:01:19 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7CE0-0006aI-OY for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:01:17 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7CDz-00011W-Kf; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:01:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:01:15 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:25:39 +0200) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] What version is that? GDB supports macros since v5.3. Mine is newer than that, so I guess its that I didn't use -g3. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 03:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139070844627182 (code B ref 15688); Sun, 26 Jan 2014 03:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2014 03:54:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7GnN-00074L-WB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:54:06 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:34513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7GnL-00074A-8Z for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:54:04 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZZ00200ORITV00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:54:01 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZZ002EYPI1RV40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:54:01 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:53:50 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:01:15 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > > Mine is newer than that, so I guess its that I didn't use -g3. That would be strange, since configure arranges for that when GCC is used as the compiler. It is more probable that your GCC is old (and has bugs in this area), which is why I asked about its version. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139072751626812 (code B ref 15688); Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2014 09:11:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36113 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7Lkx-0006yN-Bm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:11:55 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:33340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7Lkv-0006yC-7G for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 04:11:54 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3fBpHq1X0Nz4KK2k; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:11:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3fBpHq0TSvzbbgZ; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:11:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MFlvYRNPJEwG; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:11:49 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: pMvCOhXcF8CYAd6lpfm541g2GZZlj+DRsDycZjhc9GQ= Received: from linux.local (ppp-88-217-58-19.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.58.19]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:11:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2EC031E548F; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:11:45 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: .. I have a VISION! It's a RANCID double-FISHWICH on an ENRICHED BUN!! Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:11:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:53:50 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > That would be strange, since configure arranges for that when GCC is > used as the compiler. Unless you have set CFLAGS yourself. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Andreas Schwab Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139075346310039 (code B ref 15688); Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2014 16:24:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36750 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7SVS-0002bm-47 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 11:24:22 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:57007) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7SVP-0002bd-PB for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 11:24:20 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0000900NZLOD00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:24:18 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N00009LCO8HMB30@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:24:18 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:24:08 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <8361p6btjr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: rms@gnu.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:11:45 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > That would be strange, since configure arranges for that when GCC is > > used as the compiler. > > Unless you have set CFLAGS yourself. Right. Richard, did you? From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.13907667588822 (code B ref 15688); Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2014 20:05:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36935 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7Vxt-0002IE-VC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:05:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7Vxr-0002I4-4l for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:05:55 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7Vxq-0001n1-3O; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:05:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:05:54 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:53:50 +0200) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I have GCC 4.4.5. Anyway, I probably specified CFLAGS="-O0 -g" explicitly in configuration, which I've done for many years. If it is now unnecessary to add -g, I didn't know. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: rms@gnu.org Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139076754210192 (code B ref 15688); Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:20:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2014 20:19:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7WAX-0002e6-CZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:19:01 -0500 Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:42282) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W7WAQ-0002dn-V3 for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:18:59 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0000500YSIYY00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 22:18:08 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0000512Z27YK10@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 22:18:08 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 22:18:44 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83k3dma44b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:05:54 -0500 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: dmantipov@yandex.ru, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > > I have GCC 4.4.5. Anyway, I probably specified CFLAGS="-O0 -g" > explicitly in configuration, which I've done for many years. If it is now > unnecessary to add -g, I didn't know. I suggest to switch to CFLAGS="-O0 -g3", then the macro information will be recorded in debug info. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139397012310826 (code B ref 15688); Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2014 21:55:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WKxJ4-0002oY-Ub for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:55:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49127) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WKxJ1-0002oO-Hx for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:55:20 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKxJ0-0000rZ-BL; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:55:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:55:18 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:53:50 +0200) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I got more information about this bug. The crash occurs when mark_stack calls mark_memory. pp is pointing at a stack slot in Fgarbage_collect. As far as I can tell by looking at the code of Fgarbage_collect with x/i, that slot is never actually used -- it contains junk left over from previous function calls. I am surprised this unoptimized compilation makes a stack slot that is not actually used. Maybe it is used in some unobvious way. It is 16(sp). This suggests that the problem cannot be fixed by trying to prevent a pointer to clear-temporary-map from being found and marked. I wrote a change in the Lisp code to fix this problem, then ran without it to get more info about the problem. I think I should install that fix soon, but I can hold off longer if you want. Please respond. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 18:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139421756928512 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 07 Mar 2014 18:40:03 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2014 18:39:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55146 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WLzg5-0007Ph-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:39:29 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:35606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WLzg2-0007PY-Vc for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:39:23 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WLzg1-0005Et-VX; Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:39:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:39:21 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 26 Jan 2014 05:53:50 +0200) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] It crashed again. This time the slot pointed to was again in Fgarbage_collect, but it was 80(sp). That's where the variable message_p (char) is stored. The value of message_p is 0, but it happens that the low 8 bits of the address of clear-temporary-map are zero, so storing the value of message_p into that byte didn't alter the pointer in the word. What seems fishy here is that clear-temporary-map still points to that vectorlike even though the vectorlike has been freed. Maybe that's where the real bug is. Why didn't this code #if GC_MARK_STACK symbol_free_list->function = Vdead; #endif prevent the problem? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 22:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Richard Stallman Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139423166425761 (code B ref 15688); Fri, 07 Mar 2014 22:35:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2014 22:34:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WM3LU-0006hQ-IC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2014 17:34:24 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:35898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WM3LT-0006hH-7m for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2014 17:34:23 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBJy8jBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxWBSCQ X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBJy8jBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxWBSCQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="50834592" Received: from 76-10-154-114.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.154.114]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 07 Mar 2014 17:34:22 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9377060C72; Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:34:22 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 17:34:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:39:21 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Why didn't this code > #if GC_MARK_STACK > symbol_free_list->function = Vdead; > #endif > prevent the problem? Indeed, that seems to be the source of the problem: if the symbol has never been found to be dead, it should not point to a dead vector, and if it has ever been found to be dead then its `function' cell should hold Vdead. Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: 24.3.50; clear-temporary-overlay-map Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139426425526645 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2014 07:37:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55580 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WMBp6-0006vf-UL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 02:37:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56907) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WMBp4-0006vX-Bx for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 02:37:30 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WMBp2-0007Uj-Q3; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 02:37:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2014 02:37:28 -0500 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 07 Mar 2014 17:34:22 -0500) References: <52E1DCC7.7000609@yandex.ru> <83txctcsi6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqhob0kc.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ejbdpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Would you like to write some code to detect when that vector becomes dead? I could put a breakpoint there and investigate. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: Changes that should go into version 24.4 Resent-From: Stefan Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Daniel Colascione , rms@gnu.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139549700324131 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:04:01 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2014 14:03:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44853 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRMW7-0006H5-Fe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:03:23 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:65449) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRMW1-0006Gs-M4 for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:03:17 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KKg/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GDMEhkQoDjhiJEY1RgV6DEw X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KKg/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GDMEhkQoDjhiJEY1RgV6DEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="52960846" Received: from 206-248-162-160.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.162.160]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 22 Mar 2014 10:03:11 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1E1B1600A9; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:03:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Message-ID: References: <532CEDEF.90707@dancol.org> <83r45u4o6s.fsf@gnu.org> <532D4ECF.5040905@dancol.org> <83ob0y4mdk.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:03:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83ob0y4mdk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:24:07 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Not sure if those are related, but if they aren't, how can we explain > that only Richard experiences these problems? My guess is that they only show up on Yeeloong, or maybe mips. Could even be a compiler bug, for all I know. > In http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15688#107, Stefan > described some insight on the problem, and Richard suggested that > someone writes debugging code to detect the situation that apparently > is a precursor to the crash. No one wrote such a code, AFAIK; perhaps > we should. (I don't understand what Stefan said enough to do this, > but maybe someone else does.) I'm not sure what kind of code could catch this, nor when to run it. Stefan From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: Changes that should go into version 24.4 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Cc: dancol@dancol.org, rms@gnu.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139550000029504 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2014 14:53:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44901 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRNIV-0007fo-S6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:53:20 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:64209) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRNIS-0007fW-Tl for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:53:18 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N2U00C00EB5NV00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:53:15 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N2U00C47EORC370@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:53:15 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:53:14 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83eh1u4751.fsf@gnu.org> References: <532CEDEF.90707@dancol.org> <83r45u4o6s.fsf@gnu.org> <532D4ECF.5040905@dancol.org> <83ob0y4mdk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Stefan > Cc: Daniel Colascione , rms@gnu.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:03:09 -0400 > > > Not sure if those are related, but if they aren't, how can we explain > > that only Richard experiences these problems? > > My guess is that they only show up on Yeeloong, or maybe mips. > Could even be a compiler bug, for all I know. Could be. But we have quite a few GC-related bug reports lately, so it's not inconceivable that they are related. > > In http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15688#107, Stefan > > described some insight on the problem, and Richard suggested that > > someone writes debugging code to detect the situation that apparently > > is a precursor to the crash. No one wrote such a code, AFAIK; perhaps > > we should. (I don't understand what Stefan said enough to do this, > > but maybe someone else does.) > > I'm not sure what kind of code could catch this, nor when to run it. Perhaps you could add more detail to what you said there, and then others could try thinking about what kind of code would help. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:39:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15688: Changes that should go into version 24.4 Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Cc: eliz@gnu.org, dancol@dancol.org, 15688@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 15688-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15688.139553267727462 (code B ref 15688); Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 15688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2014 23:57:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45200 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRVnZ-00078q-4f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:57:57 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:58016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRVnX-00078h-D7 for 15688@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:57:56 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRVnW-00008p-I8; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:57:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:57:54 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Stefan on Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:03:09 -0400) References: <532CEDEF.90707@dancol.org> <83r45u4o6s.fsf@gnu.org> <532D4ECF.5040905@dancol.org> <83ob0y4mdk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] My guess is that they only show up on Yeeloong, or maybe mips. Could even be a compiler bug, for all I know. Since I can't get any more data by debugging when it crashes, what good do you think will be done by leaving out the workaround I installed? If you don't want it in the trunk and the release, I won't override you, but I will install it in my own copy. I'm tired of the hassle and I see nothing to be gained by suffering it more. > In http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15688#107, Stefan > described some insight on the problem, and Richard suggested that > someone writes debugging code to detect the situation that apparently > is a precursor to the crash. No one wrote such a code, AFAIK; perhaps > we should. (I don't understand what Stefan said enough to do this, > but maybe someone else does.) I'm not sure what kind of code could catch this, nor when to run it. Here's one idea: store that vector somewhere where GC can see it, and arrange to abort on freeing that vector. By debugging at that point we might learn some more. That seems easy enough that I will try it one of these days. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 02 17:41:40 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2014 21:41:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33405 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WVSuh-0007XA-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 17:41:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WVSue-0007Wy-Hp for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 17:41:37 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVSue-0000NF-4n for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 17:41:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 17:41:36 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 17168 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) forcemerge 15688 17168 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 04 17:37:50 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2014 21:37:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35716 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WWBo5-0006AF-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:37:50 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50578) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WWBo2-0006A6-7J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:37:47 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WWBo1-0003yj-VN for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:37:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:37:45 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 17184 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) forcemerge 17168 17184