From unknown Tue Jun 24 15:42:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15627: 23.4; docstring for `mode-line-format' should link to default Resent-From: Samuel Bronson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 01:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15627@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13818883012875 (code B ref -1); Wed, 16 Oct 2013 01:52:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2013 01:51:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53205 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGy-0000kH-1M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37608) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGu-0000jy-62 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGn-0005oR-Fq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:30 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGn-0005oN-DA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGl-0004Z9-Ch for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGj-0005nB-Qx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:27 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::229]:63413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGj-0005mz-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:25 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id x12so70462qcv.14 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 18:51:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=x+9APqPwbGFIO4i+M3ErfW67WXHIwtsTK/7y0eAv0wg=; b=yxq7oAt11xZ3WclAmy5DDk4Y49wvLoF49qxI5G/yogAuwVsPyxD+RGNcJlAa1TKP71 3ljxOvEj4BrDwpnuAPbrwqYrj3RKP6PSjbL1738PEGySdyzfmbtM5RcB+eUC3BZTy/IS syKexfi98iQPS2jOn9f1SAZu1DOyVo9lVTFz5ID5Sz/paylrwsgayP4LelIyzJsZGGC5 WVXZ2lTFr3ahJHP20j4LZ0j4QG866GYZ0fkHRARR5l4VAvefyFdKmiAX4Gvqkz/o+Prs xhT/Yp6ttuhZFs8OoDoXfm6c3vlWmvr9ThOq4ty/E9KLVxlsUP3zyj+ZFY6qKuYzZxHc 5iKA== X-Received: by 10.49.99.98 with SMTP id ep2mr303704qeb.9.1381888284574; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 18:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen (naesten-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net. [2001:470:1f06:57::2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id og1sm116543992qeb.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Oct 2013 18:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from naesten by hydrogen with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGGe-0006qd-1P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:20 -0400 From: Samuel Bronson Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:19 -0400 Message-ID: <87txgi7zl4.fsf@naesten.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The docstring for `mode-line-format' does not link to `default-mode-line-format', and there's no way to find it from looking at the help for `mode-line-format' because the source link for `mode-line-format' is to a C source file, which is probably not even installed and even if it were contains no information about the default value. Basically, this is a suggestion to include "`default-mode-line-format'" somewhere in the docstring, preferably near the top. 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From unknown Tue Jun 24 15:42:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15627: 23.4; docstring for `mode-line-format' should link to default Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 03:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Samuel Bronson Cc: 15627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15627.138189530814031 (code B ref 15627); Wed, 16 Oct 2013 03:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 15627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2013 03:48:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VWI60-0003eE-Eo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:48:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47906 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VWI5y-0003e6-Iz for 15627@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:48:27 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWI5x-0001Ui-CV; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:48:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <87txgi7zl4.fsf@naesten.dyndns.org> X-Spook: New World Order espionage csystems USCODE Waco, Texas X-Ran: V|m"$`X (Samuel Bronson's message of "Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:51:19 -0400") Message-ID: <56txghq3jq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) Samuel Bronson wrote: > Basically, this is a suggestion to include "`default-mode-line-format'" > somewhere in the docstring, preferably near the top. Why does it need to be mentioned at all? C-h v default-mode-line-format This variable is obsolete since 23.2; use `mode-line-format' instead. Documentation: Default value of `mode-line-format' for buffers that don't override it. This is the same as (default-value 'mode-line-format). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 23 15:01:07 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2013 19:01:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZ3g2-0006Vv-Fs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:01:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36960 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VZ3g0-0006Vb-CB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:01:04 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VZ3fz-0004X6-Pj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:01:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:01:03 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15627 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) tag 15627 wontfix notabug close 15627