From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15593: unnecessarily created autom4ate.cache directory Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_?= =?UTF-8?Q?B=C3=ADlka?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-automake@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15593 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15593@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-automake@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.138152725831613 (code B ref -1); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:35:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2013 21:34:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUkLg-0008Dn-HW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:34:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfex-0008K9-ER for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfer-0007p6-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfer-0007p2-Lm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfem-0004oy-My for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfeh-0007nI-TH for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:40 -0400 Received: from popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.20.131]:38068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfeh-0007lt-Mt for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:35 -0400 Received: from domone.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.20.131]) by popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D89057912 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:24:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by domone.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E19F55F96A; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:24:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:24:43 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_?= =?UTF-8?Q?B=C3=ADlka?= Message-ID: <20131011162443.GA19954@domone.podge> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:34:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Hi, A glibc supports builds only from separate build directory than source directory. In source directory a autom4ate.cache is created. See following bug entry. https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14120 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 11 19:22:20 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2013 23:22:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUm2F-0003N6-RE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:20 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:8539) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUm2C-0003Mr-Sd; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:18 -0400 Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9BNMDg7008681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:14 -0400 Received: from [10.3.113.194] (ovpn-113-194.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.194]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9BNMCdX001462; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: <52588824.3090506@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:22:12 -0600 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiBCw61sa2E=?= , 15593-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#15593: unnecessarily created autom4ate.cache directory References: <20131011162443.GA19954@domone.podge> In-Reply-To: <20131011162443.GA19954@domone.podge> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.24 X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tag 15593 notabug thanks On 10/11/2013 10:24 AM, Ond=C5=99ej B=C3=ADlka wrote: > Hi, A glibc supports builds only from separate build directory than sou= rce > directory. In source directory a autom4ate.cache is created. >=20 > See following bug entry. > https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D14120 How is this an automake bug? Automake doesn't create autom4te.cache; that's autoconf (via the autom4te program shipped as part of the autoconf package). But such a directory is only created if you are actually running one or more of the autotools; you should be figuring out what in glibc's configure script is running autotools during configure (the normal configure script is intentionally independent of autotools, where only the maintainer has a cache file when they ran autoreconf, but where end users do NOT get a cache file by just running path/to/configure). Looking at glibc's configure.in (eww, outdated name; these days autotools prefer configure.ac), I see: AC_CHECK_PROGS(AUTOCONF, autoconf, no) case "x$AUTOCONF" in xno|x|x:) AUTOCONF=3Dno ;; *) AC_CACHE_CHECK(dnl whether $AUTOCONF${ACFLAGS:+ }$ACFLAGS works, libc_cv_autoconf_works, [dn= l if (cd $srcdir; $AUTOCONF $ACFLAGS configure.in > /dev/null 2>&1); then= libc_cv_autoconf_works=3Dyes else libc_cv_autoconf_works=3Dno fi]) test $libc_cv_autoconf_works =3D yes || AUTOCONF=3Dno ;; esac if test "x$AUTOCONF" =3D xno; then aux_missing=3D"$aux_missing autoconf" fi That's your culprit. It is also possible to create a ./.autom4te.cfg file to explicitly request that autom4te always use the --no-cache option to avoid creating a cache directory (this is documented in the autoconf manual [1]). [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf.html#Customizing-au= tom4te I'm closing this as not an automake bug, although do feel free to continue asking questions in this thread. --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSWIgkAAoJEKeha0olJ0Nq2zgH/REyhiTZtoEEwyahq/t4E2lh auBEZ0lRe+jCNT/gbPHguEreUckhbtK4ZjWaco7qqueSMPIUFTwzIz2R0ZBZ+3DU QSyUPfksRuhn8tbHr2lCviSQP9eHiwMOyFBWqU0PEztMQHFG3Ry4glnvj2yyMAUz j2SlKlJJGxUDPR2pMc7D5kcoF38ocFvLWaeWrW6di0tjEnPoKS6Db+ePEe0dWSrF PlFfqdYLvcA/w4olBFtu04O2tb55NiiMpPB0N7pV0pETRMshxOUTK7mDzp62/yZV wQkMXZXNn21JCSre9SyvTCq63O1fRsm74JIwI/MfGUn8CwlJnItS9bynxD3cjyM= =kC8F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:17:55 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_?= =?UTF-8?Q?B=C3=ADlka?= Subject: bug#15593: closed (Re: bug#15593: unnecessarily created autom4ate.cache directory) Message-ID: References: <52588824.3090506@redhat.com> <20131011162443.GA19954@domone.podge> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 15593 X-Gnu-PR-Package: automake X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: notabug Reply-To: 15593@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 23:23:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1381533783-13037-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1381533783-13037-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #15593: unnecessarily created autom4ate.cache directory which was filed against the automake package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 15593@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 15593: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D15593 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1381533783-13037-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 15593-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2013 23:22:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43738 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUm2F-0003N3-9r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:19 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:8539) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUm2C-0003Mr-Sd; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:18 -0400 Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9BNMDg7008681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:14 -0400 Received: from [10.3.113.194] (ovpn-113-194.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.194]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9BNMCdX001462; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: <52588824.3090506@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:22:12 -0600 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?T25kxZllaiBCw61sa2E=?= , 15593-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#15593: unnecessarily created autom4ate.cache directory References: <20131011162443.GA19954@domone.podge> In-Reply-To: <20131011162443.GA19954@domone.podge> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.24 X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15593-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tag 15593 notabug thanks On 10/11/2013 10:24 AM, Ond=C5=99ej B=C3=ADlka wrote: > Hi, A glibc supports builds only from separate build directory than sou= rce > directory. In source directory a autom4ate.cache is created. >=20 > See following bug entry. > https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D14120 How is this an automake bug? Automake doesn't create autom4te.cache; that's autoconf (via the autom4te program shipped as part of the autoconf package). But such a directory is only created if you are actually running one or more of the autotools; you should be figuring out what in glibc's configure script is running autotools during configure (the normal configure script is intentionally independent of autotools, where only the maintainer has a cache file when they ran autoreconf, but where end users do NOT get a cache file by just running path/to/configure). Looking at glibc's configure.in (eww, outdated name; these days autotools prefer configure.ac), I see: AC_CHECK_PROGS(AUTOCONF, autoconf, no) case "x$AUTOCONF" in xno|x|x:) AUTOCONF=3Dno ;; *) AC_CACHE_CHECK(dnl whether $AUTOCONF${ACFLAGS:+ }$ACFLAGS works, libc_cv_autoconf_works, [dn= l if (cd $srcdir; $AUTOCONF $ACFLAGS configure.in > /dev/null 2>&1); then= libc_cv_autoconf_works=3Dyes else libc_cv_autoconf_works=3Dno fi]) test $libc_cv_autoconf_works =3D yes || AUTOCONF=3Dno ;; esac if test "x$AUTOCONF" =3D xno; then aux_missing=3D"$aux_missing autoconf" fi That's your culprit. It is also possible to create a ./.autom4te.cfg file to explicitly request that autom4te always use the --no-cache option to avoid creating a cache directory (this is documented in the autoconf manual [1]). [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf.html#Customizing-au= tom4te I'm closing this as not an automake bug, although do feel free to continue asking questions in this thread. --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJSWIgkAAoJEKeha0olJ0Nq2zgH/REyhiTZtoEEwyahq/t4E2lh auBEZ0lRe+jCNT/gbPHguEreUckhbtK4ZjWaco7qqueSMPIUFTwzIz2R0ZBZ+3DU QSyUPfksRuhn8tbHr2lCviSQP9eHiwMOyFBWqU0PEztMQHFG3Ry4glnvj2yyMAUz j2SlKlJJGxUDPR2pMc7D5kcoF38ocFvLWaeWrW6di0tjEnPoKS6Db+ePEe0dWSrF PlFfqdYLvcA/w4olBFtu04O2tb55NiiMpPB0N7pV0pETRMshxOUTK7mDzp62/yZV wQkMXZXNn21JCSre9SyvTCq63O1fRsm74JIwI/MfGUn8CwlJnItS9bynxD3cjyM= =kC8F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FMB1PdnGu0PrIi7tFBqXI94u6JCsrwDQu-- ------------=_1381533783-13037-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2013 21:34:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUkLg-0008Dn-HW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:34:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfex-0008K9-ER for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfer-0007p6-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfer-0007p2-Lm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37535) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfem-0004oy-My for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfeh-0007nI-TH for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:40 -0400 Received: from popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.20.131]:38068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUfeh-0007lt-Mt for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:33:35 -0400 Received: from domone.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz [195.113.20.131]) by popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D89057912 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:24:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by domone.kolej.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E19F55F96A; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:24:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:24:43 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?T25kxZllaiBCw61sa2E=?= To: bug-automake@gnu.org Subject: unnecessarily created autom4ate.cache directory Message-ID: <20131011162443.GA19954@domone.podge> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at popelka.ms.mff.cuni.cz X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:34:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Hi, A glibc supports builds only from separate build directory than source directory. In source directory a autom4ate.cache is created. See following bug entry. https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14120 ------------=_1381533783-13037-1--