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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:27:32 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgement at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': 1. Start `emacs -Q'. It opens Emacs with the default text in *scratch* buffer: ;; This buffer is for notes you don't want[...] 1a. cua-mode is off, transient-mark-mode is on. 2. Move point before This. 3. Select the word This by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Right arrow. 4. Invoke isearch by pressing Ctrl+S. 5. Enter `notes' as the search string. Observed behavior: * Selection is extended to include the word that was found by isearch. Expected behavior: * Since isearch is a point movement command and such commands deactivate the selection in transient-mark-mode, I expect selection to be deactivated. * If I press Ctrl+Space before searching, this indicates an explicit request for persistent selection. In this case, the current behavior of isearch is correct. * Additionally, it might be nice if pressing Ctrl+Shift+S behaved similarly to Shift+arrow keys, unconditionally activating the selection and extending/shrinking it to include the match. In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.4) of 2013-04-09 on allspice, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11303000 Configured using: `configure '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro' 'CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: en_RU.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_RU.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: en_RU.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x e m a r e p o s r t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Load-path shadows: /usr/share/emacs/24.2/site-lisp/debian-startup hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup /usr/share/emacs/24.2/site-lisp/dictionaries-common/flyspell hides /usr/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/textmodes/flyspell /usr/share/emacs/24.2/site-lisp/dictionaries-common/ispell hides /usr/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/textmodes/ispell Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail regexp-opt rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 03 16:56:45 2013 Received: (at 15513) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2013 20:56:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52427 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VRpwy-0007HO-2I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:56:44 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:42959) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VRpwt-0007HD-BE for 15513@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 16:56:40 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r93KubaE013098 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 3 Oct 2013 20:56:38 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r93KuatF000562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Oct 2013 20:56:37 GMT Received: from abhmt118.oracle.com (abhmt118.oracle.com [141.146.116.70]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r93Kuaxa028181; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 20:56:36 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2caeaf90-276b-4312-9ece-a38776b8eae9@default> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:56:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Yuri Khan , 15513@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#15513: 24.2; isearch should clear selection in transient-mark-mode References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15513 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) > 3. Select the word This by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Right arrow. > 4. Invoke isearch by pressing Ctrl+S. > 5. Enter `notes' as the search string. >=20 > Observed behavior: > * Selection is extended to include the word that was found by isearch. Yes, that is the expected (designed, documented) behavior. This was discussed in help-gnu-emacs, in (your) thread "automatic selection during search". > Expected behavior: > * Since isearch is a point movement command and such commands deactivate > the selection in transient-mark-mode, I expect selection to be > deactivated. Isearch is a lot more than just a point movement command. And it might or might not actually move point, in the end. And there is no rule that I know of that says that all point-movement commands (meaning what? any command that moves point?) must deactivate the region before it acts. What about `S-'? That's a point movement command - should it too deactivate the region? > * If I press Ctrl+Space before searching, this indicates an explicit > request for persistent selection. In this case, the current behavior of > isearch is correct. You activated the region by doing `C-S-', indicating an explicit request for an active region. Isearch extends the active region. If you don't want that, then don't activate the region (or else deactivate it) before invoking Isearch. IOW, if it hurts, just don't do that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 03 17:19:41 2013 Received: (at 15513) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2013 21:19:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52469 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VRqJA-0007p4-HA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:19:40 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:35317) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VRqJ7-0007or-ID; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:19:38 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFLd/fx/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GsSSQCZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFLd/fx/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GsSSQCZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="34709064" Received: from 75-119-247-241.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.247.241]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Oct 2013 17:16:10 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EB4206036D; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Yuri Khan Subject: Re: bug#15513: 24.2; isearch should clear selection in transient-mark-mode Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:19:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:00:22 +0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15513 Cc: 15513@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) retitle 15513 Isearch should clear shift-selected region thanks > 3. Select the word This by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Right arrow. > 4. Invoke isearch by pressing Ctrl+S. [...] > Observed behavior: > * Selection is extended to include the word that was found by isearch. > Expected behavior: > * Since isearch is a point movement command and such commands deactivate > the selection in transient-mark-mode, I expect selection to be > deactivated. > * If I press Ctrl+Space before searching, this indicates an explicit > request for persistent selection. In this case, the current behavior of > isearch is correct. Actually, any highlighted region is a transient region. Motion commands deactivate the current selection only in the case where the selection was made with shifted motion commands. So C-s should only deactivate the region if it has been activated by shifted motion commands. > * Additionally, it might be nice if pressing Ctrl+Shift+S behaved > similarly to Shift+arrow keys, unconditionally activating the selection > and extending/shrinking it to include the match. Yes, that would make a lot of sense, although C-S-s in my setup seems never to reach Emacs (probably caught by something like a window-manager). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 15 01:48:16 2021 Received: (at 15513) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2021 05:48:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uEJ-0001ea-Uw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 01:48:16 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52538) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uEI-0001eL-LO for 15513@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 01:48:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uA1U2jzr9D+ZO/o66vHEmUu6HXMC6z8hKycqH/TaM/M=; b=d+ty5vFELlOeI5bDd0HMngVodC hOeXxtMl7Vss+DapDVl8aaFnmbDsEnpcTIVgYP1U0tmERiGbqCIa+ftT3ucEKKdb+n81plVb6cajo Wr3M1zdt7x9IgkcaDVWn9lV/oNs7jPRvMwSS/QGoHeP5wAgjyUdZf89H9Cj7YMfPTf4I=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uE9-0004OO-6K; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:48:07 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#15513: Isearch should clear shift-selected region References: X-Now-Playing: Pet Shop Boys's _Hotspot_: "Only the dark" Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:48:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 03 Oct 2013 17:19:32 -0400") Message-ID: <87o8b4p1pn.fsf_-_@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Monnier writes: > Actually, any highlighted region is a transient region. Motion commands > deactivate the current selection only in the case where the selection > was made with shifted motion commands. > > So C-s sh [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15513 Cc: 15513@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@gnu.org, Yuri Khan X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Monnier writes: > Actually, any highlighted region is a transient region. Motion commands > deactivate the current selection only in the case where the selection > was made with shifted motion commands. > > So C-s should only deactivate the region if it has been activated by > shifted motion commands. I think that makes sense -- but Emacs has worked this way for a long time now, and I can't recall seeing many complaints about the behaviour of `C-S-right C-s', so changing the behaviour may annoy people. Anybody got an opinion here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 15 01:48:22 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2021 05:48:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46388 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uEQ-0001ev-5b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 01:48:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uEO-0001eY-CJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 01:48:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Wz7160B3t8RYhnSgaGTASbRqStOYoFzF0atrRovaW74=; b=VWUfiJDjGJFyCxHWn5wCsQJfpR NghwwlXyKUhf4zBeCCTGzQ76qR/MjvMPP49VjQIHn3bIczw8S5FX2SZoquJVMAg1simffksczAESR 3VYgYs5pEbgRb3tZrD3IQfGuyCXc9uYnKG0hx3fSJoTANGMyivxp5WNI3/xYoWkPJaE0=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3uEG-0004OV-RU for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:48:14 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:48:12 +0200 Message-Id: <87mtqop1pf.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #15513 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 15513 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 15513 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 12 11:07:41 2021 Received: (at 15513) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2021 15:07:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39672 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mECJ3-0004gf-9K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 11:07:41 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41896) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mECJ2-0004gP-2B for 15513@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 11:07:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=nCoau87dobVKiyuG4P5yy9k+qBLDhboJsG9Pl/01vLY=; b=R2ABb4L3EUhUkDH0tdB92cV9MC manc08WEG5534YVZ60aa5WeB6QH0/2L/pVxd1hVC3aG3rAqkWy0CKX7oLSGVfP+594FK7xCG2eZof 1UHAr2JKWunDTxCYMRfMs76RT03WuOyATcwUrj9X1+EUYcBdaMjJz51Ggdb2CpFX+4W0=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mECIp-0007H6-JW; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 17:07:32 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#15513: Isearch should clear shift-selected region References: <87o8b4p1pn.fsf_-_@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 17:07:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8b4p1pn.fsf_-_@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:48:04 +0200") Message-ID: <87o8a2itw2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> Actually, any highlighted region is a transient region. Motion commands >> deactivate the current selection only in the case where the selectio [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15513 Cc: 15513@debbugs.gnu.org, cyd@gnu.org, Yuri Khan X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> Actually, any highlighted region is a transient region. Motion commands >> deactivate the current selection only in the case where the selection >> was made with shifted motion commands. >> >> So C-s should only deactivate the region if it has been activated by >> shifted motion commands. > > I think that makes sense -- but Emacs has worked this way for a long > time now, and I can't recall seeing many complaints about the behaviour > of `C-S-right C-s', so changing the behaviour may annoy people. > > Anybody got an opinion here? Nobody had an opinion in a month, so I think the least wrong solution here is to not change the behaviour here, and I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 12 11:07:44 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2021 15:07:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39675 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mECJ6-0004gu-Gg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 11:07:44 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mECJ4-0004gS-F5 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 11:07:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Ltc7KQ7iGcAh6VNexsXVEu9wdDrFTRH6o9kKPI5KQWM=; b=kLL43mGdylDzxIiyElCrdeg8px +sHi7IgIBcXcVeLhVXnYAK8FWhkaGr0Ya3CRg3OTLwXA1knW1G398vWYQEjoRGtZDwBjsxq8Vyoh+ mlqCBVRygXKcfkt2vJ2IEDXS+dnSLWCTNYVZlHhY0RL7Sn/DmLVWbZpUCJE2klOEjsGI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mECIw-0007HE-M9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 17:07:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 17:07:34 +0200 Message-Id: <87mtpmitvt.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #15513 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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