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24.3.50; file missing in dired

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From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3.50; file missing in dired
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:10:40 -0400

In my dired buffer on the whole directory `outgoing', the lock file
`.#out-3' does not appear.  I typed g a couple of times, and that file
continues not to show up.

`ls -a' does show it.

I looked at the buffer `out-3', but it was not modified, so I don't
know why it had a lock file.



In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.9 (mips64el-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1)
 of 2013-09-22 on chiefs-gnewsense
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Message #8 received at 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15508: 24.3.50; file missing in dired
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:03:49 -0400

Richard Stallman wrote:

> In my dired buffer on the whole directory `outgoing', the lock file
> `.#out-3' does not appear.  I typed g a couple of times, and that file
> continues not to show up.

I can't reproduce such an issue with current trunk.

> Load-path shadows:
> /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/net/shr-color hides /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/gnus/shr-color
> /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/net/shr hides /home/rms/emacs-bzr/trunk/lisp/gnus/shr

Not related, but you have stale files in your tree.

Message #11 received at 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15508: 24.3.50; file missing in dired
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 02:02:17 +0100

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

> In my dired buffer on the whole directory `outgoing', the lock file
> `.#out-3' does not appear.  I typed g a couple of times, and that file
> continues not to show up.
>
> `ls -a' does show it.

Are you still having these issues?  I can't recall seeing anybody else
describing a problem like this...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #14 received at 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alexis <flexibeast <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#15508: 24.3.50; file missing in dired
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:37:31 +1100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> In my dired buffer on the whole directory `outgoing', the lock 
>> file `.#out-3' does not appear.  I typed g a couple of times, 
>> and that file continues not to show up.
>>
>> `ls -a' does show it.
>
> Are you still having these issues?  I can't recall seeing 
> anybody else describing a problem like this...

i faced what i believe to be a similar problem, which was caused 
by the default value of the `dired-omit-files' variable:

   "^\\.?#\\|^\\.$\\|^\\.\\.$"

Changing the value of that variable to:

   "^\\.\\|^#"

resulted in dired displaying things as i expect.


Alexis.

Message #17 received at 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Alexis <flexibeast <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi <at> gnus.org, rms <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15508: 24.3.50; file missing in dired
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:21:52 +0200

> From: Alexis <flexibeast <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:37:31 +1100
> Cc: 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
> 
> > Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >> In my dired buffer on the whole directory `outgoing', the lock 
> >> file `.#out-3' does not appear.  I typed g a couple of times, 
> >> and that file continues not to show up.
> >>
> >> `ls -a' does show it.
> >
> > Are you still having these issues?  I can't recall seeing 
> > anybody else describing a problem like this...
> 
> i faced what i believe to be a similar problem, which was caused 
> by the default value of the `dired-omit-files' variable:
> 
>     "^\\.?#\\|^\\.$\\|^\\.\\.$"
> 
> Changing the value of that variable to:
> 
>     "^\\.\\|^#"
> 
> resulted in dired displaying things as i expect.

dired-omit-files only takes effect when the user invoked
dired-omit-mode, in which case they are asking for omitting the lock
files (and can customize dired-omit-files if they don't want to omit
lock files).  Since dired-omit-mode is not turned on by default, I
think this is not a bug, but a cockpit error, perhaps an inadvertent
one.

Richard, do you turn on dired-omit-mode in your Dired buffers?

Message #20 received at 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 15508 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Alexis <flexibeast <at> gmail.com>, rms <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15508: 24.3.50; file missing in dired
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:32:44 +1100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> dired-omit-files only takes effect when the user invoked
> dired-omit-mode, in which case they are asking for omitting the lock
> files (and can customize dired-omit-files if they don't want to omit
> lock files).  Since dired-omit-mode is not turned on by default, I
> think this is not a bug, but a cockpit error, perhaps an inadvertent
> one.
>
> Richard, do you turn on dired-omit-mode in your Dired buffers?

More information was requested, but no response was given within a few
months, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please reopen this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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