From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. Resent-From: crocket Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:56:08 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.137997335932562 (code B ref -1); Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:56:08 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2013 21:55:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59108 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOE6o-0008T6-BJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:55:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34818) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VNgMA-0004Ds-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:53:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNgM4-0007Lf-6b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:53:28 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55597) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNgM4-0007Lb-3R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:53:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36539) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNgM3-0000MP-8T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:53:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNgM2-0007LH-AM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:53:27 -0400 Received: from mail-vc0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22c]:58022) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VNgM2-0007L9-5M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 05:53:26 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hu8so1424950vcb.17 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=H7cj61rlPc66HscET+kSqQan/nPXF4eyU5NpurFRnJU=; b=ggRKDUq5XFbPxT6GfdZBt9Wt0bh5Bzaf1hzd2efoDYpmTYoO3ArQFrzTMADkVgYFjP +EoA6zT0DtSr0S3txciSnffiog58A1Dh9v916MrmXY2yHaWpTxwrYOtdkQ/NeqMIOAe0 WlQYFHZGmZE/OBGnf13+TQFDTfgW+4DEZC1pKeliIQj8Le0fNsMvfLgEZ30lQEOkgYwt 2qTUBSP+OUW0OzoOKigLk5dSq8c5FEIADnDv3V7ZtNlXZUSxY2brsmV8nLXxYRMy+CHO wU32pc6GsMp/Cuv7Yt7Bgp5YwU1GvDnuwgGr1fpgn5s6xg9QQZYuZQCLbSAbt4VZ7yOE S0QQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.64.143 with SMTP id o15mr13511093vds.16.1379843605302; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.17.74 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:53:25 +0900 Message-ID: From: crocket Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30776153f0947504e6f5df73 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:55:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --20cf30776153f0947504e6f5df73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The error trace is shown below. Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument char-or-string-p nil) quail-help("korean-hangul") eval((quail-help "korean-hangul") nil) eval-last-sexp-1(t) eval-last-sexp(t) eval-print-last-sexp() call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil) recursive-edit() debug(error (wrong-type-argument char-or-string-p nil)) quail-help("korean-hangul") eval((quail-help "korean-hangul") nil) eval-last-sexp-1(t) eval-last-sexp(t) eval-print-last-sexp() call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil) recursive-edit() debug(error (void-function quail-help)) (quail-help "korean-hangul") eval((quail-help "korean-hangul") nil) eval-last-sexp-1(t) eval-last-sexp(t) eval-print-last-sexp() call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil) recursive-edit() debug(error (void-function quail-help)) (quail-help (quote korean-hangul)) eval((quail-help (quote korean-hangul)) nil) eval-last-sexp-1(t) eval-last-sexp(t) eval-print-last-sexp() call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil) --20cf30776153f0947504e6f5df73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The error trace is shown below.

<= div>Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument char-or-string-p nil= )
=A0 quail-help("korean-hangul")
=A0 eval((q= uail-help "korean-hangul") nil)
=A0 eval-last-sexp-1(t)
=A0 eval-last-sexp(t)
=A0 = eval-print-last-sexp()
=A0 call-interactively(eval-print-last-sex= p nil nil)
=A0 recursive-edit()
=A0 debug(error (wrong-= type-argument char-or-string-p nil))
=A0 quail-help("korean-hangul")
=A0 eval((quail-he= lp "korean-hangul") nil)
=A0 eval-last-sexp-1(t)
<= div>=A0 eval-last-sexp(t)
=A0 eval-print-last-sexp()
= =A0 call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
=A0 recursive-edit()
=A0 debug(error (void-function quail-he= lp))
=A0 (quail-help "korean-hangul")
=A0 eva= l((quail-help "korean-hangul") nil)
=A0 eval-last-sexp-= 1(t)
=A0 eval-last-sexp(t)
=A0 eval-print-last-sexp()
= =A0 call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
=A0 recursiv= e-edit()
=A0 debug(error (void-function quail-help))
= =A0 (quail-help (quote korean-hangul))
=A0 eval((quail-help (quote korean-hangul)) nil)
=A0 eval-la= st-sexp-1(t)
=A0 eval-last-sexp(t)
=A0 eval-print-last-= sexp()
=A0 call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil)
= --20cf30776153f0947504e6f5df73-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 06:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: crocket Cc: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.138000394517026 (code B ref 15447); Tue, 24 Sep 2013 06:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2013 06:25:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59798 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOM45-0004QU-Pi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:25:42 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:32921) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOM3y-0004QB-Nt for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:25:37 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTM003009QH6W00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:25:27 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTM0025F9UFUK60@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:25:27 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:25:40 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83bo3iivmj.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:53:25 +0900 > From: crocket > > The error trace is shown below. > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument char-or-string-p nil) > quail-help("korean-hangul") quail-help gives help on quail _packages_, and korean-hangul is not a package, it's an input method. Try this instead: C-u C-\ korean-hanja RET C-\ M-: (quail-help "korean-hanja") RET This works because korean-hanja is a Leim package. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: crocket Cc: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.13800547631142 (code B ref 15447); Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2013 20:32:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33237 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOZHm-0000IL-Jh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:32:42 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:56984) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOZHj-0000IA-2S for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:32:40 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTN00700CS1G400@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:32:37 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTN0073HD2CGC10@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:32:37 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 23:32:51 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83pprygdu4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bo3iivmj.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) [Please keep the bug address on the CC list.] > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:18:49 +0900 > From: crocket > > So, is it not a bug? I don't think it is a bug, although it would be nicer if instead of signaling an error Emacs would say something like "unknown package: FOO". From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org, crocket Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.138006112110633 (code B ref 15447); Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Sep 2013 22:18:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOawJ-0002lN-VU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:40 -0400 Received: from relais.videotron.ca ([24.201.245.36]:15278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOawH-0002lF-Pu for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:38 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from ceviche.home ([24.201.53.56]) by VL-VM-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MTN00FHNHZ17F00@VL-VM-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9EAA466086; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-id: References: <83bo3iivmj.fsf@gnu.org> <83pprygdu4.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:44 -0400 In-reply-to: <83pprygdu4.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) >> So, is it not a bug? > I don't think it is a bug, although it would be nicer if instead of > signaling an error Emacs would say something like "unknown package: > FOO". I guess it also depends on how we end up calling quail-help. After all, the user is not expected to type M-: (quail-help "foobar") RET. Stefan From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org, crockabiscuit@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.138008782918030 (code B ref 15447); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2013 05:43:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34025 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOht6-0004gk-Hr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:43:48 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50818) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOht3-0004gY-56 for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:43:46 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTO00B002HH8R00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:43:43 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTO00AW12KUSUB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:43:43 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:43:58 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83li2lh2w1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bo3iivmj.fsf@gnu.org> <83pprygdu4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: crocket , 15447@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:44 -0400 > > >> So, is it not a bug? > > I don't think it is a bug, although it would be nicer if instead of > > signaling an error Emacs would say something like "unknown package: > > FOO". > > I guess it also depends on how we end up calling quail-help. > After all, the user is not expected to type M-: (quail-help "foobar") RET. It's a command, but invoking it interactively yields the same behavior. You need to have activated an input method that loads some quail package, before invoking this command, in order to have a help. korean-hangul doesn't load any quail package, so the command throws an error. So I still think a more human-readable error message is in order, although when invoked interactively the package name is not given, so some other wording is in order. It looks like quail-help was designed to be called only by "C-h C-\", where it behaves reasonably, but since it's a command, it perhaps should have some minimal harness for when it is invoked by users directly. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. References: Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: crocket Cc: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.138011576832036 (code B ref 15447); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:30:04 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2013 13:29:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34945 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOp9j-0008Kd-C6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:29:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOp9d-0008KR-Lu for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:29:22 -0400 Received: from fl1-119-240-85-246.iba.mesh.ad.jp ([119.240.85.246]:49340 helo=shatin) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOp9d-0005TH-3X; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:29:21 -0400 Received: from handa by shatin with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOp9I-000571-6l; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:29:00 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from crocket on Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:53:25 +0900) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:29:00 +0900 Message-ID: <87eh8dav37.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -7.0 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.0 (-------) In article , crocket writes: > The error trace is shown below. > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument char-or-string-p nil) > quail-help("korean-hangul") As these input methods are not "quail" input methods: korean-hangul, korean-hangul3f, korean-hangul390, korean-hangul3, ucs quail-help doesn't work for them. If you want to describe those input methods, do: (describe-input-method "korean-hangul") or, type "C-h C-\ korean hangul RET". --- Kenichi Handa handa@gnu.org From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. References: Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 15447@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, crockabiscuit@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.13801181713373 (code B ref 15447); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2013 14:09:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35294 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOpmU-0000sL-Qm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:09:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOpmT-0000sD-HE for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:09:29 -0400 Received: from fl1-119-240-85-246.iba.mesh.ad.jp ([119.240.85.246]:50762 helo=shatin) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOpmS-0003sW-Ip; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:09:28 -0400 Received: from handa by shatin with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOpm6-0005Az-Km; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:09:06 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <83li2lh2w1.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:43:58 +0300) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:09:06 +0900 Message-ID: <87bo3hat8d.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -7.0 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.0 (-------) In article <83li2lh2w1.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > It looks like quail-help was designed to be called only by "C-h C-\", > where it behaves reasonably, but since it's a command, it perhaps > should have some minimal harness for when it is invoked by users > directly. If it is ok to break a subtle backward compatibility here, let's make quail-help not a command. It had to be a command when I first implemented it, but now it doesn't have to be. It is now called from describe-current-input-method by funcall. --- Kenichi Handa handa@gnu.org From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 15447@debbugs.gnu.org, crockabiscuit@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.138012886419738 (code B ref 15447); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2013 17:07:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOsYx-00058I-OL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:07:44 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:51423) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VOsYw-000589-6r for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:07:42 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r8PH7fhF020999; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:07:41 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9B62AB4102; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87bo3hat8d.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:07:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bo3hat8d.fsf@gnu.org> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:09:06 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, RV4712=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4712> : inlines <101> : streams <1044650> : uri <1547294> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > If it is ok to break a subtle backward compatibility here, > let's make quail-help not a command. Fine by me, Stefan From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:24:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15447: (quail-help "korean-hangul") generates errors. References: Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: eliz@gnu.org, 15447@debbugs.gnu.org, crockabiscuit@gmail.com Received: via spool by 15447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15447.138020402930486 (code B ref 15447); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 15447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2013 14:00:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37934 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VPC7I-0007ve-U6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:00:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39580) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VPC7G-0007vW-Oi for 15447@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:00:27 -0400 Received: from fl1-119-240-85-246.iba.mesh.ad.jp ([119.240.85.246]:52199 helo=shatin) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPC7F-0007T1-OX; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:00:26 -0400 Received: from handa by shatin with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VPC75-0000Nf-Hj; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:00:15 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:07:41 -0400) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:00:15 +0900 Message-ID: <877ge3bs40.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) In article , Stefan Monnier writes: > > If it is ok to break a subtle backward compatibility here, > > let's make quail-help not a command. > Fine by me, I've just committed that change. --- Kenichi Handa handa@gnu.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 28 20:42:38 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2014 01:42:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W8KAo-0003i6-3z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:42:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:57528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W8KAk-0003hv-Qo for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:42:35 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8KAk-0002nx-9c for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:42:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:42:34 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15447 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) close 15447 24.4