From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Xue Fuqiao Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15339@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13789061336822 (code B ref -1); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:29:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2013 13:28:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkTT-0001lw-EF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkTO-0001lg-NV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkTE-0007Q4-K5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkTE-0007Pz-Gw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkT9-0006Fa-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkT8-0007PI-7B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:31 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::233]:54325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VJkT8-0007PE-1Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:30 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id e14so4845330iej.10 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:28:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b4iOEpS5OFE1qMo2Hygki1Ge0tnbrsq4VOWw6XrCu7Y=; b=dFe8nbhzcoNOXS8+mf0x87OYw9F468HdEjqunzzxAzT31ssgXPfvC0FqhY1T8tehZC AxFUpBDPSOmf+o5pl1p66HRIAtuCNA1iKt+Rl3N552qziLHK4Uk2fp0Kc17jOAQ4kDOv 4tmOYL6ggV9PCzICgKtTGPqktlTdwKKBr1A/3Rs2bpkDOr/sn9GVTfmi6nIeyihDa/g6 zKzz1nbbaYNbNeEy0NxkWryFXiR//0YjO+khCtIagyqouI/l+RGfu4WrDPwFSvrX0uQ7 6RjNez+6TdeQ9noy3oro72UIWdC0NZnw/IFQ/Sl0A+gf4HyZQo+AoAO3XaEsgekQtAO7 Ukng== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.81.210 with SMTP id a18mr305932icl.13.1378906109396; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.51.75 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:28:29 +0800 Message-ID: From: Xue Fuqiao Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) To reproduce: emacs -Q C-q C-l C-u C-x =3D In the *Help* buffer, the =E2=80=98decomposition=E2=80=99 property of this = character (should be itself, I believe) is displayed as a square, but the character is displayed right (^L) in the *scratch* buffer. I also tried ^M, ^G, ^H, ^V, and ^[; the results are the same. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin12.4.0, NS apple-appkit-1187.39) of 2013-09-07 on xfq.local Bzr revision: 114163 eggert@cs.ucla.edu-20130907002056-0jom28xr5402rpm9 Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1187 Configured using: `configure --with-ns --enable-checking --disable-silent-rules' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Help Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-q C-l C-b C-u C-x =3D C-x o SPC x r e - e m - b u Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Type C-x 1 to delete the help window, C-M-v to scroll help. Char: C-l (12, #o14, #xc) point=3D192 of 192 (99%) column=3D0 Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils pp wid-edit cl-loaddefs cl-lib descr-text help-mode easymenu time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) --=20 Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xue Fuqiao Cc: "15339@debbugs.gnu.org" <15339@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.137896771714105 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 06:35:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57678 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK0Um-0003fQ-IC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:35:17 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:42753) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK0Uh-0003fE-3W for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:35:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 25691 invoked by uid 89); 12 Sep 2013 06:35:08 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 12 Sep 2013 06:35:08 -0000 Received: from [172.16.2.197] (unknown [176.57.193.190]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8D341A0099; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 06:35:08 +0000 (UTC) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B350) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:35:06 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hi.=20 11 sep 2013 kl. 15:28 skrev Xue Fuqiao : > To reproduce: >=20 > emacs -Q > C-q C-l > C-u C-x =3D I'm assuming you go back one character before C-u C-X =3D.=20 I can't reproduce this on a current trunk build. I get "C-l (displayed as C-= l)". That is not correct either, it should be "displayed as ^L". But it is like t= hat on all platforms.=20 Can you try on 24.3 and an updated trunk? Also try with -nw.=20 Thanks, Jan D. >=20 > In the *Help* buffer, the =E2=80=98decomposition=E2=80=99 property of this= character > (should be itself, I believe) is displayed as a square, but the > character is displayed right (^L) in the *scratch* buffer. I also tried > ^M, ^G, ^H, ^V, and ^[; the results are the same. >=20 >=20 > In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin12.4.0, NS apple-appkit-1187.39= ) > of 2013-09-07 on xfq.local > Bzr revision: 114163 eggert@cs.ucla.edu-20130907002056-0jom28xr5402rpm9 > Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1187 > Configured using: > `configure --with-ns --enable-checking --disable-silent-rules' >=20 > Important settings: > value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 > locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix > default enable-multibyte-characters: t >=20 > Major mode: Help >=20 > Minor modes in effect: > tooltip-mode: t > mouse-wheel-mode: t > tool-bar-mode: t > menu-bar-mode: t > file-name-shadow-mode: t > global-font-lock-mode: t > font-lock-mode: t > blink-cursor-mode: t > auto-composition-mode: t > auto-encryption-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t > buffer-read-only: t > line-number-mode: t > transient-mark-mode: t >=20 > Recent input: > C-q C-l C-b C-u C-x =3D C-x o SPC x r e - e > m - b u >=20 > Recent messages: > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. > Type C-x 1 to delete the help window, C-M-v to scroll help. > Char: C-l (12, #o14, #xc) point=3D192 of 192 (99%) column=3D0 >=20 > Load-path shadows: > None found. >=20 > Features: > (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml > mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev > gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util > mail-prsvr mail-utils pp wid-edit cl-loaddefs cl-lib descr-text > help-mode easymenu time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type > mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe > tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar > rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax > facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese > tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak > czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook > jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button > faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 > format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable > backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ >=20 >=20 From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Xue Fuqiao Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: "15339@debbugs.gnu.org" <15339@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.137897534926820 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 08:42:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK2Ts-0006yW-Oc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 04:42:29 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:62082) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK2Tq-0006yH-62 for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 04:42:27 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t60so9082247wes.0 for <15339@debbugs.gnu.org>; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: > Hi. Hi Jan, > 11 sep 2013 kl. 15:28 skrev Xue Fuqiao : > >> To reproduce: >> >> emacs -Q >> C-q C-l >> C-u C-x =3D > > I'm assuming you go back one character before C-u C-X =3D. Yes, sorry. > I can't reproduce this on a current trunk build. I get "C-l (displayed > as C-l)". I mean the =E2=80=98decomposition=E2=80=99 character property (see the OP). > That is not correct either, it should be "displayed as ^L". But it is li= ke that on all platforms. > > Can you try on 24.3 and an updated trunk? Sorry, I can't try them in the near future. > Also try with -nw. I tried it, but I can't see even a square. It is like this: decomposition: (12) ('') --=20 Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: Xue Fuqiao , "15339@debbugs.gnu.org" <15339@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.137897566627393 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 08:47:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57923 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK2Z0-00077l-7f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 04:47:46 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:51160 helo=mx2.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK2Yx-00077Z-03 for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 04:47:43 -0400 Received: from relay1.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1877DA41E0; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:47:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> X-Yow: I can see you GUYS an' GALS need a LOT of HELP...You're all very STUPID!! I used to be STUPID, too..before I started watching UHF-TV!! Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:47:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?="'s message of "Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:35:06 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) Jan Djärv writes: > I can't reproduce this on a current trunk build. I get "C-l (displayed as C-l)". Please look further down, in the character code properties (you may have to customize it to include the decomposition). Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xue Fuqiao Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, 15339@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.13789993605047 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 15:22:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59065 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK8j9-0001JK-3D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:22:39 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:42849) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK8j6-0001J6-V0 for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:22:37 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MT000C00QFSB600@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:21:49 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MT000C1FQODBP10@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:21:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:21:35 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83hadqhxq8.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:42:20 +0800 > From: Xue Fuqiao > Cc: "15339@debbugs.gnu.org" <15339@debbugs.gnu.org> > > I mean the ‘decomposition’ character property (see the OP). That portion of the display shows (in this case, since there's no decomposition) how the raw character in question would be displayed. And since no available font has a glyph for ^L, you see an empty square. That looks correct to me. You expected to see ^L, but that comes from a display table, which is bypassed in this case, and for good reason, as explained above. So I don't think this is a bug, just something that might not be expected. > I tried it, but I can't see even a square. It is like this: > > decomposition: (12) ('') That's not what I see, I see the TTY graphics for Form Feed (FF) character, which is also correct. This is on MS-Windows, where the console font has a glyph for FF, which looks like ♀. From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:52:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Xue Fuqiao , 15339@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.13790010737942 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:52:04 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 15:51:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59181 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK9Am-00023z-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:51:12 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:44474 helo=mx2.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK9Ah-00023Y-3P for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:51:10 -0400 Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3FFA51FE; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:51:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> <83hadqhxq8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: Uh-oh!! I forgot to submit to COMPULSORY URINALYSIS! Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:51:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83hadqhxq8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:21:35 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Eli Zaretskii writes: > That's not what I see, I see the TTY graphics for Form Feed (FF) > character, which is also correct. This is on MS-Windows, where the > console font has a glyph for FF, which looks like ♀. On a text terminal, the character is written literally, which messes up the display (FF has the effect of moving the cursor down). Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, 15339@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.137900268918521 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 16:18:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59238 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK9aq-0004of-4X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:18:08 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:56265) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VK9am-0004o8-QT for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:18:06 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MT000C00SY9UU00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:17:58 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MT000CZHT9XHGA0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:17:58 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:17:44 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83d2oehv4n.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> <83hadqhxq8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: Xue Fuqiao , 15339@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:51:05 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > That's not what I see, I see the TTY graphics for Form Feed (FF) > > character, which is also correct. This is on MS-Windows, where the > > console font has a glyph for FF, which looks like ♀. > > On a text terminal, the character is written literally, which messes up > the display (FF has the effect of moving the cursor down). Yes, I saw that also. From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xue Fuqiao Cc: "15339@debbugs.gnu.org" <15339@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.137900658728982 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 17:23:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKAbi-0007XO-Kv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:23:07 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:46153) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKAbg-0007XB-23 for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:23:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 1325 invoked by uid 89); 12 Sep 2013 17:23:01 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 12 Sep 2013 17:23:01 -0000 Received: from anon-54-15.vpn.ipredator.se (unknown [46.246.54.15]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D6451A0270; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:22:58 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <45CF558F-B5AA-4564-B8C4-3AEE3F882A1A@swipnet.se> References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello. 12 sep 2013 kl. 10:42 skrev Xue Fuqiao : > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Jan Dj=E4rv = wrote: >> Hi. >=20 > Hi Jan, >=20 >> 11 sep 2013 kl. 15:28 skrev Xue Fuqiao : >>=20 >>> To reproduce: >>>=20 >>> emacs -Q >>> C-q C-l >>> C-u C-x =3D >>=20 >> I'm assuming you go back one character before C-u C-X =3D. >=20 > Yes, sorry. >=20 >> I can't reproduce this on a current trunk build. I get "C-l = (displayed >> as C-l)". >=20 > I mean the =91decomposition=92 character property (see the OP). Ah, missed that. There is indeed a square. There is a square there for = GNU/Linux also, so it may be intentional. Jan D. From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: Xue Fuqiao , Eli Zaretskii , 15339@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.137900667429126 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 17:24:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKAd6-0007Zh-PB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:24:33 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:46156) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKAd1-0007ZV-S1 for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:24:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 1394 invoked by uid 89); 12 Sep 2013 17:24:26 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 12 Sep 2013 17:24:26 -0000 Received: from anon-54-15.vpn.ipredator.se (unknown [46.246.54.15]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF94A1A0270; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:24:24 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <65F7FF9D-68BA-46A4-9017-CDC951EB0CB8@swipnet.se> References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> <83hadqhxq8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hi. 12 sep 2013 kl. 17:51 skrev Andreas Schwab : > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 >> That's not what I see, I see the TTY graphics for Form Feed (FF) >> character, which is also correct. This is on MS-Windows, where the >> console font has a glyph for FF, which looks like =E2=99=80. >=20 > On a text terminal, the character is written literally, which messes = up > the display (FF has the effect of moving the cursor down). >=20 > Andreas. >=20 Yes, that happens on OSX also. Jan D. From unknown Fri Aug 22 01:03:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15339: 24.3.50; Control characters are displayed as square in describe-char Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, schwab@suse.de, 15339@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 15339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15339.13790105463113 (code B ref 15339); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:30:03 +0000 Received: (at 15339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 18:29:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKBdZ-0000o8-QM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:29:06 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:52435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKBdW-0000nU-O4 for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:29:04 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MT000D00YTNXZ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15339@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:28:56 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MT000DCDZC7SX60@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:28:56 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:28:42 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <65F7FF9D-68BA-46A4-9017-CDC951EB0CB8@swipnet.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83bo3xj3mt.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> <83hadqhxq8.fsf@gnu.org> <65F7FF9D-68BA-46A4-9017-CDC951EB0CB8@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Jan Djärv > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:24:24 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , > Xue Fuqiao , > 15339@debbugs.gnu.org > > > On a text terminal, the character is written literally, which messes up > > the display (FF has the effect of moving the cursor down). > > > > Andreas. > > Yes, that happens on OSX also. Perhaps for control characters, the default should be not to show the decomposition. 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[206.188.64.44]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x13sm5956482ite.1.2016.08.05.17.53.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net References: <9264526B-18F9-4912-AEEF-FE7277866926@swipnet.se> <83hadqhxq8.fsf@gnu.org> <65F7FF9D-68BA-46A4-9017-CDC951EB0CB8@swipnet.se> <83bo3xj3mt.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:53:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83bo3xj3mt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:28:42 +0300") Message-ID: <87oa567m5r.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 15339 fixed close 15339 25.1 quit Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv >> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:24:24 +0200 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , >> Xue Fuqiao , >> 15339@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >> > On a text terminal, the character is written literally, which messes up >> > the display (FF has the effect of moving the cursor down). >> >=20 >> > Andreas. >>=20 >> Yes, that happens on OSX also. > > Perhaps for control characters, the default should be not to show the > decomposition. This seems to have been done in Emacs 25.