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Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:25:35 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MSK00400DXJOZ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15261@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:25:27 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MSK004W0DYDNF00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:25:27 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:25:38 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15261: 24.2; Cursor not visible while moving point in transient mark mode In-reply-to: <52262A3E01F7038E003915DB_0_85638@p057> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: RICHARD MUNITZ Message-id: <83fvtld7wt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52262A3E01F7038E003915DB_0_85638@p057> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15261 Cc: 15261@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:28:14 -0000 > From: "RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)" > > Start 'emacs -Q'; > C-SPC (to set mark at the end of the buffer) > Then in somewhat rapid succession, perhaps 1/4 second apart, type C-p C-p C-p C-p > There is no evidence of movement while the C-p's are being typed that point is > moving up the screen until you stop typing and point suddenly jumps 3 > lines up and it shows all lines highlighted. What you describe sounds like redisplay cannot keep up with your commands. Unless the machine is extremely old and slow, I don't see how this is possible in such a simple scenario. FWIW, I cannot reproduce that on my machine. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 10:43:59 2013 Received: (at 15261) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2013 14:43:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VHEJK-0005vm-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:43:58 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:54182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VHEJG-0005vP-SG for 15261@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:43:56 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MSL00000VCKGX00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15261@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 17:43:23 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MSL0009DVKAHR00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 17:43:23 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 17:43:38 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Re: bug#15261: 24.2; Cursor not visible while moving point in transient mark mode In-reply-to: <5227427F0203021400392334_0_59558@p057> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: RICHARD MUNITZ Message-id: <83bo48d4v9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5227427F0203021400392334_0_59558@p057> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15261 Cc: 15261@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Please keep the bug address on the CC list. > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:23:59 -0000 > From: "RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)" > > Thanks for the quick response. Here is some more info. > > The machine itself is a not so old multi-core server. However, I am accessing it through Exceed onDemand Client 8 from a Windows desktop machine. And it doesn't matter which server I connect to. Most likely, this client is a contributor to the problem. > If Emacs is not currently highlighting, the cursor moves instantaneously in response to rapid individual keystrokes as fast as I can type them. However, if I press and hold say C-n, the cursor will move down line by line perhaps 10-30 or so times but then freeze for a while and finally reappear whenever I take my hands off the keyboard or at the bottom of the buffer if I don't release the key. Thanks for the details. It indeed sounds like Exceed is an important factor here. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 04 11:07:50 2013 Received: (at 15261) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2013 15:07:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40473 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VHEgQ-0006a6-0j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:07:50 -0400 Received: from mail-qe0-f50.google.com ([209.85.128.50]:60769) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VHEgL-0006Zk-U3 for 15261@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:07:46 -0400 Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id a11so235991qen.9 for <15261@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:07:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=liu7dP7E1iHcobaCQphhJThYuelvdAPXzLdWjB8X3Hg=; b=PZDBXZEP0qMxuxPE3XVsqA/mEWBlniYupDM6pVFHWT/ByYwPCF6CLBol+8JAtF4MO2 SnywGawmprbItpl4j3jUz2YI2Tv3CjqLRLcR1gJxlGymkNPeE5woS4MsKo2hFQO4vh6M A893x5p5BfC204+jueH4HX7OwvNhz5uRIXrJhIGD5FRscirspvrlIVPf7wB3VcA94eev 19Wk3l9n30FyPx/SReTX/6xAXdFwCKlnXceaSwdx7CYzn6K8chqCJw9m7OZSPcGj02CO LdxbiGE5zTIZYq2jdv1pWwbY5E+3luKd16LOn5INRd30Xl+2jyYURbhrrf4mEWoUt1eJ zGyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmsqayNtAih8XFqWqY/1kSXSy58PutXcu4+daJ8ZPML/SJs40eeikUr3dE6frRLAr4ZOqu3 X-Received: by 10.49.109.170 with SMTP id ht10mr3884830qeb.27.1378307259735; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 08:07:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.38.162 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:07:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83fvtld7wt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <52262A3E01F7038E003915DB_0_85638@p057> <83fvtld7wt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Josh Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:07:09 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 74Je9IkTDtcJxpPVcq2Izk3UQAc Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#15261: 24.2; Cursor not visible while moving point in transient mark mode To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15261 Cc: RICHARD MUNITZ , 15261@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:28:14 -0000 >> From: "RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)" >> >> Start 'emacs -Q'; >> C-SPC (to set mark at the end of the buffer) >> Then in somewhat rapid succession, perhaps 1/4 second apart, type C-p C-p C-p C-p >> There is no evidence of movement while the C-p's are being typed that point is >> moving up the screen until you stop typing and point suddenly jumps 3 >> lines up and it shows all lines highlighted. > > What you describe sounds like redisplay cannot keep up with your > commands. Unless the machine is extremely old and slow, I don't see > how this is possible in such a simple scenario. FWIW, I cannot > reproduce that on my machine. The windowing system "`Hummingbird - Open Text', version 11.0.13830", suggests that the OP is connecting to an Emacs running on a Solaris machine from a Windows-based X server[0] across a network connection with unknown bandwidth and latency characteristics. The reported symptoms seem consistent with a laggy network connection to me. 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4 Sep 2013 20:22:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40685 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VHJae-0006QL-VO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:22:13 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:63083) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VHJac-0006Q6-1p for 15261@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:22:11 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MSM00I00AYJXD00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15261@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 23:22:03 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MSM00I51B8RQBC0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 23:22:03 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 23:21:59 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: Re: bug#15261: 24.2; Cursor not visible while moving point in transient mark mode In-reply-to: <5227562C014706D2003904B0_0_70985@p057> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: RICHARD MUNITZ Message-id: <838uzccp7c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5227562C014706D2003904B0_0_70985@p057> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15261 Cc: josh@foxtail.org, 15261@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 15:47:56 -0000 > From: "RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)" > Cc: 15261@debbugs.gnu.org > > Client and server machine are LAN connected. Yes, it is a Solaris server. A tracert from my machine to the server shows 7 hops, but all under 1ms latency. > The reported behavior consistently occurs 100% of the time and has for the 4 weeks I have been working in this environment - including off-hours. So I don't think bandwidth is a factor either. > Note that Bloomberg's core business is distributing real-time market data to the financial industry, so they are rather obsessive about high performance networks. Does the problem happen for you when you run Emacs locally on that machine? Or does it only happen in this particular configuration, when you use Exceed to access a Solaris server from a Windows machine? > For comparison, I just tried running gvim and repeated the same "highlight text" test (from top of file I hit "v" (visual mode) and then pressed and held the "j" (down) key. gvim was able to continuously move the cursor and highlight line after line, scrolling screen after screen without ever freezing up. Comparisons with gvim are meaningless, because there's no primitive "highlight this text" operation that both Emacs and gvim use. Each one of them highlights text using very different methods. In Emacs, the portion of the text that is highlighted is actually fully redisplayed. 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Wed, 04 Sep 2013 20:36:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.38.162 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:35:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5227562C014706D2003904B0_0_70985@p057> References: <5227562C014706D2003904B0_0_70985@p057> From: Josh Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:35:58 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bmWnd_hofO_Tw5hB65xm1lMANJU Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#15261: 24.2; Cursor not visible while moving point in transient mark mode To: RICHARD MUNITZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15261 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 15261@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:47 AM, RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN) wrote: > Client and server machine are LAN connected. Yes, it is a Solaris server. A tracert from my machine to the server shows 7 hops, but all under 1ms latency. That's nice, but IP-level latency says nothing about the latency at higher layers. For troubleshooting purposes, you might consider installing Cygwin on your Windows machine and checking whether you observe the same behavior when you run the Solaris Emacs in conjunction with the Cygwin X server instead of Exceed. I would expect that experiment to shed some light on whether the behavior you reported is resulting from an issue with Exceed or something to do with the remote system. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 30 16:34:43 2022 Received: (at 15261) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2022 21:34:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37877 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEHqM-0005Vd-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 16:34:42 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEHqK-0005VL-W8 for 15261@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 16:34:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Wjep6ht+zqc8OKjhZBKCvDEqeWWVL0j3QpuuPh08zaI=; b=u2DAUKcg2Fe6wdTtpNDNEH9Z5Y FM+V+3IB6Oz7JzgLNegXd/Gwd+rx1RhzTwbpoUA9v+u0ovjUnkZL+s/Ga0fFJXiuSqusN6w7Zb49Q S6/mf0CRxxVk8yfDRWeX2MBpvhz/JqSV8MRzuLXHLYxlNlmlbfXI494QWHJi0H6nkywY=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nEHqA-0002bu-DP; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:34:33 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)" Subject: Re: bug#15261: 24.2; Cursor not visible while moving point in transient mark mode References: <52262A3E01F7038E003915DB_0_85638@p057> X-Now-Playing: Ida's _Lovers Prayers_: "For Shame of Doing Wrong" Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:34:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <52262A3E01F7038E003915DB_0_85638@p057> (RICHARD MUNITZ's message of "Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:28:14 -0000") Message-ID: <87ilu07vrv.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: "RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)" writes: > The basic problem is that if I set mark and then quickly move the cursor > around in any direction with a reasonable rapid sequence of cursor > movement keystrokes, > the cursor becomes invisible an [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15261 Cc: 15261@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "RICHARD MUNITZ (BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN)" writes: > The basic problem is that if I set mark and then quickly move the cursor > around in any direction with a reasonable rapid sequence of cursor > movement keystrokes, > the cursor becomes invisible and there is no highlighting until I stop > typing for a moment. So there is no visual feedback on where point is and it > greatly slows down movement to the desired destination. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Are you still seeing this issue in more recent versions of Emacs? More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15261 Cc: 15261@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Are you still seeing this issue in more recent versions of Emacs? More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 28 04:54:00 2022 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2022 09:54:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60135 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOcjA-0007zJ-Fv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 04:54:00 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35146) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOcj8-0007yr-HH for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 04:53:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zpFOG0ESeT+yBijR3wZdXD1MBIJehqY16s3KWEIPZvA=; b=V3zKArg3T+6u7JowFxLtMcnqwt rS2zqDnrTJbRDwUlT08jgAwRuDE/HDy9K2dhtb4kcC8xuLnjOsEoIAKbcbbwHyRsK//lai4aFdBRD i6Q35ZU4frRVGSNzzcndsf6uoZ7/YJYLV3P9ftmTmMC1wzW6DqEoXPp1DbSk2YQT+PT8=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOcj0-000697-Ns for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:53:52 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:53:50 +0100 Message-Id: <87a6ebpb9t.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #15261 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 15261 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 15261 quit From unknown Fri Jun 20 19:55:08 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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