From unknown Mon Jun 23 02:25:14 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#15242: (info "(cl) Structures"): setf should be prominent Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 04:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 15242 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 15242@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13780949001695 (code B ref -1); Mon, 02 Sep 2013 04:09:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2013 04:08:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36244 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLR5-0000RF-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58235) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLR4-0000R1-Is for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQq-0006T4-SE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQq-0006T0-PK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQi-0002HC-AV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQZ-00069i-Ll for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:07:56 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::229]:34613) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQZ-00069Z-D6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:07:47 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r10so4253739pdi.14 for ; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=ulhZ/V5/l7jonWaGi5BQTyqfH6BheFHsFxGhVcSDc78=; b=X3gTj1vFJ8ENpgYi0yqU5DSoDmY0R4rO3Zj2timngHQM/8OPhCt8kYgaJwTjFPPxEt gioteMq3NwO0lJggv1RcGmjD8dIIaVo75lVTtsC9qJhIc+avbTSdejXCFBgj7b83bzUX JrHxWrHPTSASxpB6VXUnLLh0l1l7ocio/pG1AUGELpreBv6BPnXh0+pvewG2UFtV119V +6HhNBneayA4x9YSycbaO6ZcYjGQbD72dyCjQ5Jrjtl18oalnIQN2OhPvEyMlpumIdbF CVDIjKTZFn0wf9kckCm6B0jRru3XWYaTo8at3Xo0QU3ZeSO/F+DqexIg11WStPN+TJPG L38g== X-Received: by 10.68.224.161 with SMTP id rd1mr23667598pbc.121.1378094866535; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porunai ([101.63.147.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id om2sm12931108pbc.30.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Sep 2013 21:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:39:54 +0530 Message-ID: <87ob8bzwx9.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) In the Info node below, ,---- (info "(cl) Structures") | You can also change these slots by using `setf' on any of these | place forms, for example: | | (cl-incf (person-age birthday-boy)) `---- the use of `cl-incf' as an example for `setf' is a bit....unhelpful (considering the context). I suggest that the "set accessor" be made prominent, by introducing it NOT as a sentence but as a paragraph in it's own right. The example SHOULD illustrate `setf' and NOT `incf'. From unknown Mon Jun 23 02:25:14 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Jambunathan K Subject: bug#15242: closed (Re: bug#15242: (info "(cl) Structures"): setf should be prominent) Message-ID: References: <87siuyqo6y.fsf@gmail.com> <87ob8bzwx9.fsf@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 15242 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 15242@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 04:34:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1384490043-3622-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1384490043-3622-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #15242: (info "(cl) Structures"): setf should be prominent which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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Closing it. ------------=_1384490043-3622-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2013 04:08:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36244 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLR5-0000RF-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58235) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLR4-0000R1-Is for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQq-0006T4-SE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQq-0006T0-PK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQi-0002HC-AV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:08:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQZ-00069i-Ll for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:07:56 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::229]:34613) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGLQZ-00069Z-D6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:07:47 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r10so4253739pdi.14 for ; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=ulhZ/V5/l7jonWaGi5BQTyqfH6BheFHsFxGhVcSDc78=; b=X3gTj1vFJ8ENpgYi0yqU5DSoDmY0R4rO3Zj2timngHQM/8OPhCt8kYgaJwTjFPPxEt gioteMq3NwO0lJggv1RcGmjD8dIIaVo75lVTtsC9qJhIc+avbTSdejXCFBgj7b83bzUX JrHxWrHPTSASxpB6VXUnLLh0l1l7ocio/pG1AUGELpreBv6BPnXh0+pvewG2UFtV119V +6HhNBneayA4x9YSycbaO6ZcYjGQbD72dyCjQ5Jrjtl18oalnIQN2OhPvEyMlpumIdbF CVDIjKTZFn0wf9kckCm6B0jRru3XWYaTo8at3Xo0QU3ZeSO/F+DqexIg11WStPN+TJPG L38g== X-Received: by 10.68.224.161 with SMTP id rd1mr23667598pbc.121.1378094866535; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porunai ([101.63.147.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id om2sm12931108pbc.30.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Sep 2013 21:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: (info "(cl) Structures"): setf should be prominent Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:39:54 +0530 Message-ID: <87ob8bzwx9.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) In the Info node below, ,---- (info "(cl) Structures") | You can also change these slots by using `setf' on any of these | place forms, for example: | | (cl-incf (person-age birthday-boy)) `---- the use of `cl-incf' as an example for `setf' is a bit....unhelpful (considering the context). I suggest that the "set accessor" be made prominent, by introducing it NOT as a sentence but as a paragraph in it's own right. The example SHOULD illustrate `setf' and NOT `incf'. ------------=_1384490043-3622-1--