From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:11:03 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#15145 <15145@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#15145 <15145@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" Reply-To: bug#15145 <15145@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 19:11:03 +0000 retitle 15145 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" reassign 15145 emacs submitter 15145 Ulrich Mueller severity 15145 minor tag 15145 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 20 14:09:04 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2013 18:09:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBqMZ-0008VA-Ku for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:09:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42947) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBqMW-0008Uj-SZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:09:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBqMQ-0004Of-7J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:09:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBqMQ-0004Oa-4T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:08:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBqMK-0007qA-6T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:08:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBqMD-0004Jp-TA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:08:48 -0400 Received: from a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:40325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBqMD-00040v-KX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:08:41 -0400 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r7KI8T5L025927 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:29 +0200 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r7KI8PVB029370; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:25 +0200 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r7KI8Pd5029368; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:25 +0200 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Tags: patch For some reason, the manual refers to "LessTif Resources" instead of "Motif Resources". However, Motif is the original implementation, whereas LessTif is an incomplete clone of it (whose development has stalled). Furthermore, functions and variables are named *motif* throughout (e.g., motif-version-string). Both Motif and LessTif are free software, licensed under the LGPL. I think that it would serve users better if the name of the original implementation was used. The patch below changes LessTif (back) to Motif in some places, partially reverting the following commit from 2001: http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/revision/36503 --- emacs-orig/doc/emacs/emacs.texi +++ emacs/doc/emacs/emacs.texi @@ -1189,7 +1189,7 @@ * Resources:: Using X resources with Emacs (in general). * Table of Resources:: Table of specific X resources that affect Emacs. * Lucid Resources:: X resources for Lucid menus. -* LessTif Resources:: X resources for LessTif and Motif menus. +* Motif Resources:: X resources for Motif and LessTif menus. * GTK resources:: Resources for GTK widgets. GTK resources --- emacs-orig/doc/emacs/xresources.texi +++ emacs/doc/emacs/xresources.texi @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ * Resources:: Using X resources with Emacs (in general). * Table of Resources:: Table of specific X resources that affect Emacs. * Lucid Resources:: X resources for Lucid menus. -* LessTif Resources:: X resources for LessTif and Motif menus. +* Motif Resources:: X resources for Motif and LessTif menus. * GTK resources:: Resources for GTK widgets. @end menu @@ -260,7 +260,7 @@ @ifnottex @item @code{selectionFont} (class @code{SelectionFont}) Font name for pop-up menu items, in non-toolkit versions of Emacs. (For -toolkit versions, see @ref{Lucid Resources}, also see @ref{LessTif +toolkit versions, see @ref{Lucid Resources}, also see @ref{Motif Resources}.) @item @code{selectionTimeout} (class @code{SelectionTimeout}) @@ -370,15 +370,15 @@ Margin of the menu bar, in characters. Default is 1. @end table -@node LessTif Resources -@appendixsec LessTif Menu X Resources -@cindex Menu X Resources (LessTif widgets) -@cindex LessTif Widget X Resources - - If Emacs is compiled with the X toolkit support using LessTif or -Motif widgets, you can use X resources to customize the appearance of -the menu bar, pop-up menus, and dialog boxes. However, the resources -are organized differently from Lucid widgets. +@node Motif Resources +@appendixsec Motif Menu X Resources +@cindex Menu X Resources (Motif widgets) +@cindex Motif Widget X Resources + + If Emacs is compiled with the X toolkit support using Motif or +LessTif widgets, you can use X resources to customize the appearance +of the menu bar, pop-up menus, and dialog boxes. However, the +resources are organized differently from Lucid widgets. The resource names for the menu bar are in the @samp{pane.menubar} class, and they must be specified in this form: --- emacs-orig/doc/man/emacs.1 +++ emacs/doc/man/emacs.1 @@ -445,7 +445,7 @@ .IR on ; don't have menu bars if .IR off . -See the Emacs manual, sections "Lucid Resources" and "LessTif +See the Emacs manual, sections "Lucid Resources" and "Motif Resources", for how to control the appearance of the menu bar if you have one. .TP @@ -492,7 +492,7 @@ Font name for pop-up menu items, in non-toolkit versions of .IR Emacs . (For toolkit versions, see the Emacs manual, sections -"Lucid Resources" and "LessTif Resources".) +"Lucid Resources" and "Motif Resources".) .TP .BR selectionTimeout " (class " SelectionTimeout ) Number of milliseconds to wait for a selection reply. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 20 15:36:24 2013 Received: (at 15145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2013 19:36:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBrj6-00032E-GR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:36:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44384) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBrj2-000323-V9 for 15145@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:36:23 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBrj1-0004Qh-NE; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:36:19 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Ulrich Mueller Subject: Re: bug#15145: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" References: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Spook: Ruby Ridge Kennedy Janet Reno Bush Wired CIA threat kibo X-Ran: $G(hjJH1Hp";RRG$=K,DC.{4]S-{e#}VP`6RqE~5] (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:25 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15145 Cc: 15145@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) Ulrich Mueller wrote: > For some reason, the manual refers to "LessTif Resources" instead of > "Motif Resources". Probably because Motif was not free software until recently. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 20 15:43:18 2013 Received: (at 15145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2013 19:43:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBrpm-0003Fw-8E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:43:18 -0400 Received: from a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:51960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBrpj-0003Fm-T5 for 15145@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:43:16 -0400 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r7KJhEII030508; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:43:14 +0200 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r7KJhBTS030529; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:43:11 +0200 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r7KJhBoT030524; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:43:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21011.50895.707998.469800@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:43:11 +0200 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#15145: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" In-Reply-To: References: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15145 Cc: 15145@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) >>>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Glenn Morris wrote: >> For some reason, the manual refers to "LessTif Resources" instead >> of "Motif Resources". > Probably because Motif was not free software until recently. That may well be. The commit message for the above-mentioned commit from 2001 doesn't state any reason, though. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 20 16:04:26 2013 Received: (at 15145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2013 20:04:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43229 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBsAE-0003xE-5n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:04:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBsAB-0003x6-QV for 15145@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:04:24 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBsAB-0003U8-35; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:04:23 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Ulrich Mueller Subject: Re: bug#15145: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" References: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <21011.50895.707998.469800@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Spook: e-bomb SWAT cryptographic Abu Ghraib Ansar al-Islam X-Ran: +6lv|`)[k~e,f@TN.\F}JL8*$xVJNYEalMqW,o,G"xDv/uX'tW!&3NmM6HiMoLzl'XT2S& X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:04:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <21011.50895.707998.469800@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:43:11 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15145 Cc: 15145@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The commit message for the above-mentioned commit from 2001 doesn't > state any reason, though. You will have to try and live with the gnawing uncertainty then. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 20 17:09:30 2013 Received: (at 15145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2013 21:09:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43296 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBtBB-00064z-PC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:09:30 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:35590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBtB9-00064j-G8 for 15145@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:09:27 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+LNT/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBgyxE5AOkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+LNT/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBgyxE5AOkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="22667617" Received: from 206-248-179-83.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.179.83]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 20 Aug 2013 17:09:19 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 42B086336E; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:09:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Ulrich Mueller Subject: Re: bug#15145: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" Message-ID: References: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:09:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15145 Cc: 15145@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > The patch below changes LessTif (back) to Motif in some places, > partially reverting the following commit from 2001: > http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/revision/36503 That looks OK, thank you. That change was made because Motif wasn't Free back then, so we wanted to promote LessTif over Motif. Nowadays, we should feel free to promote Motif instead. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 20 19:00:24 2013 Received: (at 15145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2013 23:00:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43499 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBuuW-0002Dp-5I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:00:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBuuS-0002Db-Ry for 15145@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:00:21 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBuuR-0001bE-PZ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:00:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:00:19 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman To: Ulrich Mueller In-reply-to: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (message from Ulrich Mueller on Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:08:25 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#15145: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" References: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15145 Cc: 15145@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.8 (-------) [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. For some reason, the manual refers to "LessTif Resources" instead of "Motif Resources". The reason is, Motif was nonfree software and thus we COULD NOT recommend it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 25 14:12:20 2013 Received: (at 15145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2013 18:12:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54931 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VDenU-0000FP-7o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:12:20 -0400 Received: from a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:45052) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VDenQ-0000FD-4H for 15145@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:12:18 -0400 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r7PICEPi030888; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:12:14 +0200 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r7PICELr002313; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:12:14 +0200 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r7PICE3O002311; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:12:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <21018.18685.978494.292874@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 20:12:13 +0200 To: rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#15145: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" In-Reply-To: References: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15145 Cc: 15145@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) >>>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Richard Stallman wrote: > For some reason, the manual refers to "LessTif Resources" > instead of "Motif Resources". > The reason is, Motif was nonfree software and thus we COULD NOT > recommend it. Thank you for clarifying. As you're certainly aware, the situation has changed, as Motif was released under the LGPL. And it looks like LessTif development has stopped. Their last release and the last commit to their CVS were in 2009. There is virtually no activity on their mailing list and they don't react to bug reports. That's about as dead as a package can be. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 31 15:51:34 2013 Received: (at 15145-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2013 19:51:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33632 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VFrCn-0005zL-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:51:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:32944 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VFrCl-0005zD-TS for 15145-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:51:32 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VFrCj-0007aa-8n; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:51:29 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 15145-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#15145: 24.3.50; "LessTif Resources" should be "Motif Resources" References: <21011.45209.490688.695444@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Spook: AUTODIN Steve Case terrorist security Dateline monarchist X-Ran: *~?_.'*riG}iE[4Ah=kQ?le!f6JnR-l&m^@Th)"}PM3igME+ulxta2'LCQ7=3S=jHIx%=? 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