From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:13:04 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#15038 <15038@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#15038 <15038@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" Reply-To: bug#15038 <15038@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:04 +0000 retitle 15038 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" reassign 15038 emacs submitter 15038 dmoncayo@gmail.com severity 15038 minor tag 15038 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 06 17:39:00 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2013 21:39:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43850 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oy4-0007Jh-9Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:39:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33145) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oy1-0007JN-HK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:38:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oxn-00050u-Qo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:38:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56022) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oxn-00050q-OC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:38:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34809) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oxf-0004bu-BY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:38:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oxW-0004xV-Vj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:38:35 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]:55362) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oxW-0004xD-P2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:38:26 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so839254wgh.33 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=2OCBX0L5UT4aCvek6OCsv3sZKmMv+0974iLbQiq5WDk=; b=KqWlGil3fgYZ3PUNVU8EFolntRT3ccY2hxNLwPAGxebQMrg/voT1SLsD1APrHpT9/3 mNb4fhCmRpXSMztiOOcHwBOeB3BnRH6GXR9MM642s5Re829luWLvSmIhvFytJOo4BzZ0 cy8ytHH2UZCiel3rJU8yZjogcMXHPH7REMmLOv2XTRySRNjDlj68Vky0lXJbk0UAIFrY lReJkB0OA23WjVjqmjDd44uxybA8BIC8foQuBtW+HJC/FXGHQtcSgHSKSI6xAvIdvB1b 1KQf7hPxB5kW7XRY66v0FUdPXaRyJlF1tirCygIyYfasgFxUFP8NOmWyyA22FUUDiiYD r18w== X-Received: by 10.180.89.177 with SMTP id bp17mr45052wib.62.1375825105457; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LEG570 ([37.61.146.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e7sm4986591wiy.4.2013.08.06.14.38.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: dmoncayo@gmail.com To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 23:38:07 +0200 Message-ID: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) The following paragraph is in the info node mentioned in the subject: *Note Beginning a `.emacs' File.emacs File, and *note Comments(elisp) for more about comments. There seems to be a problem in its first cross reference, because: * The link is broken. * The part ".emacs File" just after the link doesn't make sense. (I guess that the problem is due to the use of "@file" inside "@xref") In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-08-05 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 113709 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20130805180546-vbxtmpcn25l6w4fr Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=/c/usr --enable-checking CFLAGS='-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS='-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1 -I/c/usr/include'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 06 19:23:22 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2013 23:23:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V6qb3-00030U-Rc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:23:22 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50113 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V6qb1-00030K-Qp for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:23:20 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6qb0-00087K-3l; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:23:18 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: dmoncayo@gmail.com Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: basement JUWTF Fortezza Armani Legion of Doom blackjack X-Ran: ;xnFuUHq@!l^l5]wolA0wPyJ7n*}5vhl`8l:-'-AzH^z[fa|.D\`Ho9xC:it)i0-{80B_- X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:23:17 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) dmoncayo@gmail.com wrote: > The following paragraph is in the info node mentioned in the subject: > > *Note Beginning a `.emacs' File.emacs File, and *note > Comments(elisp) for more about comments. > > There seems to be a problem in its first cross reference, because: > * The link is broken. > * The part ".emacs File" just after the link doesn't make sense. I see no such problem on GNU/Linux with makeinfo 4.13 or 5.1. What makeinfo did you use? > In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 06 23:56:42 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 03:56:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44374 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V6ura-0006Hu-BX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 23:56:42 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:42381) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V6urX-0006Hg-Fh for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 23:56:40 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MR5002006KXUD00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 06:56:32 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MR5002WX6Y8UC10@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 06:56:32 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 06:56:43 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:23:17 -0400 > Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org > > dmoncayo@gmail.com wrote: > > > The following paragraph is in the info node mentioned in the subject: > > > > *Note Beginning a `.emacs' File.emacs File, and *note > > Comments(elisp) for more about comments. > > > > There seems to be a problem in its first cross reference, because: > > * The link is broken. > > * The part ".emacs File" just after the link doesn't make sense. > > I see no such problem on GNU/Linux with makeinfo 4.13 or 5.1. > What makeinfo did you use? I think Dany is describing the way Emacs displays that node, not the exact text in the Info file. The problem is in the Texinfo sources: a node name cannot include a period, see the Texinfo manual. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 10:00:48 2013 Received: (at 15038-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 14:00:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45551 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V74IB-0005Rq-9g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 10:00:47 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:54948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V74I8-0005Ra-NK for 15038-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 10:00:45 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MR500800YO8A100@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 15038-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:00:38 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MR5008SIYX13870@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:00:38 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 17:00:49 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" In-reply-to: <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: dmoncayo@gmail.com Message-id: <83fvulvbvy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038-done Cc: 15038-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 06:56:43 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org > > > From: Glenn Morris > > Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:23:17 -0400 > > Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > dmoncayo@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > The following paragraph is in the info node mentioned in the subject: > > > > > > *Note Beginning a `.emacs' File.emacs File, and *note > > > Comments(elisp) for more about comments. > > > > > > There seems to be a problem in its first cross reference, because: > > > * The link is broken. > > > * The part ".emacs File" just after the link doesn't make sense. > > > > I see no such problem on GNU/Linux with makeinfo 4.13 or 5.1. > > What makeinfo did you use? > > I think Dany is describing the way Emacs displays that node, not the > exact text in the Info file. > > The problem is in the Texinfo sources: a node name cannot include a > period, see the Texinfo manual. Fixed in trunk revision 113736. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 12:37:25 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 16:37:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76jk-0000b8-UQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:37:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39111 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76ji-0000ax-1z for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:37:23 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V76jg-0007z7-Vd; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:37:21 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Chobetsu South Africa genetic rail gun HAMASMOIS e-cash X-Ran: 9a[P4R,h[N/P/!_M3`?~N@yKkSXzePG?.H0!y:JJ^2"|*,L+J(y9Ii8+1.JwY&O`bToR@. X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:37:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 07 Aug 2013 06:56:43 +0300") Message-ID: <4y61vhmp8f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think Dany is describing the way Emacs displays that node, not the > exact text in the Info file. Standalone info seems to handle it fine. > The problem is in the Texinfo sources: a node name cannot include a > period, see the Texinfo manual. ./misc/org.texi:@node org-crypt.el, , Interaction, Miscellaneous ./misc/edt.texi:@node edt-user.el ./misc/epa.texi:@node Encrypting/decrypting *.gpg files ./misc/cc-mode.texi:@node Sample .emacs File, Performance Issues, Odds and Ends, Top ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node About mairix and mairix.el ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node Setting up mairix.el ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node Using mairix.el ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node Extending mairix.el From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 12:41:02 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 16:41:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45810 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76nF-0000iJ-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:41:01 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50082) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76nD-0000i0-Qt for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:41:00 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MR600D0065N5H00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:40:47 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MR600DJ66BY5W00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:40:46 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:40:58 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" In-reply-to: <4y61vhmp8f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83a9ktv4h1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> <4y61vhmp8f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 15038@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:37:20 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I think Dany is describing the way Emacs displays that node, not the > > exact text in the Info file. > > Standalone info seems to handle it fine. It uses a different way of finding the end of a node name (which OTOH fails in some cases Emacs doesn't). > > The problem is in the Texinfo sources: a node name cannot include a > > period, see the Texinfo manual. > > ./misc/org.texi:@node org-crypt.el, , Interaction, Miscellaneous > ./misc/edt.texi:@node edt-user.el > ./misc/epa.texi:@node Encrypting/decrypting *.gpg files > ./misc/cc-mode.texi:@node Sample .emacs File, Performance Issues, Odds and Ends, Top > ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node About mairix and mairix.el > ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node Setting up mairix.el > ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node Using mairix.el > ./misc/mairix-el.texi:@node Extending mairix.el They are all in error. From the Texinfo manual: * Unfortunately, you cannot reliably use periods, commas, or colons within a node name; these confuse the Info reader. Also, a node name may not start with a left parenthesis preceding a right parenthesis, as in '(not)allowed', since this syntax is used to specify an external manual. (Perhaps these limitations will be removed some day.) If you insist on using these characters in node names, accepting the resulting substandard Info output, in order not to confuse the Texinfo processors, you must still escape those characters, by using either special insertions (*note Inserting a Comma::) or '@asis' (*note @asis::). For example: @node foo@asis{::}bar As an example of avoiding the special characters, the following is a section title in this manual: @code{@@unnumberedsec}, @code{@@appendixsec}, @code{@@heading} But the corresponding node name lacks the commas (and the '@''s, but that is historical): unnumberedsec appendixsec heading From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 12:41:42 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 16:41:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45813 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76nu-0000jt-4z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:41:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39208 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76ns-0000jm-EE for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:41:40 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V76nq-0001NU-8x; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:41:38 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> <4y61vhmp8f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: BATF USCOI White House cypherpunk quiche DES Bush Wired X-Ran: 4k^5_!$pYpy<2UZyPOSgII/[u@}_0BcX#BlhrbNhj5dx+]W">1NA.BB!4t+m*$b (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:37:20 -0400") Message-ID: <9l38qla1x9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) PS if parentheses are also not allowed: ./misc/reftex.texi:@node xr (LaTeX package) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Table of Contents) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Defining Label Environments) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Creating Labels) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Referencing Labels) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Creating Citations) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Index Support) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Viewing Cross-References) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Finding Files) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Optimizations) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Fontification) ./misc/reftex.texi:@node Options (Misc) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 12:47:48 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 16:47:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76to-0000ws-HW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:47:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39358 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V76tm-0000wj-Gy for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:47:47 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V76tk-0003N8-JY; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:47:44 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> <4y61vhmp8f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83a9ktv4h1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Perl-RSA Crowell defense information warfare JSOFC3IP X-Ran: vxVsgG9m)Fru-"0TK&XHi.wUZPf}82|O5IO/a<9[lARG?3@c7B~~l<.x%NZBO67E'59gP, X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:47:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83a9ktv4h1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 07 Aug 2013 19:40:58 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > They are all in error. From the Texinfo manual: > > * Unfortunately, you cannot reliably use periods, commas, or colons > within a node name; these confuse the Info reader. The 4.13 manual also says "parentheses". * Unfortunately, you cannot use periods, commas, colons or parentheses within a node name; these confuse the Texinfo processors. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 13:39:57 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 17:39:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V77iH-0003vq-6e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:39:57 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:41444) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V77iE-0003vA-0j for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 13:39:55 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MR6009008RYHN00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:39:47 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MR60098C929HB20@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:39:46 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 20:39:58 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <837gfxv1qp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> <4y61vhmp8f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83a9ktv4h1.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 15038@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:47:44 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > They are all in error. From the Texinfo manual: > > > > * Unfortunately, you cannot reliably use periods, commas, or colons > > within a node name; these confuse the Info reader. > > The 4.13 manual also says "parentheses". > > * Unfortunately, you cannot use periods, commas, colons or > parentheses within a node name; these confuse the Texinfo processors. Yes, but those rarely hit the problem, if they are at the end of the node name. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 14:54:49 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 18:54:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46077 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V78si-0007Y4-O2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:54:49 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com ([209.85.217.172]:55132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V78sg-0007Xf-GL for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:54:47 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id o7so1800861lbv.3 for <15038@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6FTr2DwBzODagUUQVROW9OUPaU5cBYZ3ZmYjiJDa+1Q=; b=TRQIf7UY7dYOmXW981Qt+fP6CGS0e97sa39+P9JI2YkLYM4b8Y8wxbZPaFEIhDrLOL e9krsef46QGcuzHvM/FEPmjYdjVAxC3PgXj0wmuYxt1XxdyYOT1QARnGGdo+EGy3JTyf I+QA4PDL1PNkGdwvfxjqL+7TsdttqTIgCih3drH3fYbJ5PR779ma7jXaqw1amhbQhZHb IsS+sBiCUS4BwF/ILqJapSV6ia085v7ZQZsgrabzof8ZkNgVqBYNbYoPln7lUJPDVotp fue1t0IlZY7GgI8FdqVv9NbBTf6coUWLvroTUj2IOKN4bdBzsafIlv8TekBMyEPl5FQ5 e87Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.25.197 with SMTP id e5mr1991733lag.87.1375901680248; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.176.231 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:54:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" From: Dani Moncayo To: Glenn Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > I see no such problem on GNU/Linux with makeinfo 4.13 or 5.1. > What makeinfo did you use? $ makeinfo --version makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 4.13 (From MSYS & Windows 7) -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 07 14:54:51 2013 Received: (at 15038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2013 18:54:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V78sl-0007YL-Hp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:54:51 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com ([209.85.215.48]:63534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V78sk-0007Xu-4Q for 15038@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:54:50 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id hi8so1455375lab.21 for <15038@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=p6QbR9DJKaAd44PXWxtJ82c1xzYLbw08e3DnuseFOLU=; b=OuHsCb+HhcTgfhokY+gD6pzFXRKNQM697fJRCp5VVb+7VhC2TuDytVFzWyf/ppor9j dRU72F73N09vNMZXdTbcaSGA5uX94cMT5JNGY0shL3tfMCze51UFSsHF7/33Iz2EyLiU ra09tD8P5oYRYVpP/wE/zMM9pm4wSLaMVmSEcEARIX5jKVHZ1SpyrKSKgdkwQoe72cby 9pFsj56aOytEinHOqIvTIGr5TkvtzqDi5+1cYMdQxTyytCvJiMJrD0rDPEvr4o2o2eBt MKYDEjIuEFNA5sr3glfdVjE45wkt4W4UUca3qMJr6jdqsoxLSTN9YJ3v2Ua3ydEOaPo8 NL+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.56.228 with SMTP id d4mr745803lbq.82.1375901683994; Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.176.231 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:54:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871u66zeio.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob9aupac.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 20:54:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#15038: 24.3.50; Doc bug in "(eintr) Change a defun" From: Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001a1133a6741ed5c604e360139d X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 15038 Cc: 15038@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a1133a6741ed5c604e360139d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I think Dany is describing the way Emacs displays that node, not the > exact text in the Info file. 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