From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:14:58 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14992 <14992@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14992 <14992@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.2.91; Initial-major-mode not respected! Reply-To: bug#14992 <14992@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 16:14:58 +0000 retitle 14992 24.2.91; Initial-major-mode not respected! reassign 14992 emacs submitter 14992 "Sebastien Vauban" severity 14992 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 31 03:55:34 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2013 07:55:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4RFq-0004S2-Bk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:55:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4RFi-0004RS-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:55:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4RFR-0005kQ-TE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:55:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4RFR-0005kF-Qk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:55:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4RFK-0004Ja-5e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:55:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4RFC-0005SK-Ei for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:54:58 -0400 Received: from beau.schedom-europe.net ([193.109.184.87]:52328) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4RFB-0005Rs-Q2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:54:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 15969 invoked by uid 507); 31 Jul 2013 09:54:48 +0200 Received: from ip-83-101-44-240.customer.schedom-europe.net (HELO MUNDANEUM.) (83.101.44.240) by beau.schedom-europe.net with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 31 Jul 2013 09:54:38 +0200 From: "Sebastien Vauban" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.91; Initial-major-mode not respected! Organization: Sebastien Vauban X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:54:25 +0200 Message-ID: <864nbbyxji.fsf@somewhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.91 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Hello, With the following minimal .emacs file, I expect flyspell-mode NOT to be run at startup time, only later when modifying a buffer. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (message "(info) Loading `%s'..." load-file-name) ;; major mode command symbol to use for the initial `*scratch*' buffer (setq initial-major-mode 'fundamental-mode) ;; vs `lisp-interaction-mode' ;; spelling checker program (setq ispell-program-name (executable-find "aspell")) ;; enable on-the-fly spell checking when changing a buffer which was unmodified (add-hook 'first-change-hook (lambda () (message "First-change-hook called for temporary buffer `%s' (in `%s')" (buffer-name) major-mode) (when (derived-mode-p 'prog-mode) (flyspell-prog-mode)))) (eval-after-load "flyspell" '(progn (message "flyspell has been loaded!!!") (sit-for 3))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- You see that my very FIRST command is to set the mode for the scratch buffer to 'fundamental' (hence, something which does not derive from 'prog-mode'). Though, 'flyspell' is called right at Emacs startup time!?? --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. (info) Loading `d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el'...done First-change-hook called for temporary buffer `*scratch*' (in `lisp-interaction-mode') flyspell has been loaded!!! Starting new Ispell process [c:/Program Files (x86)/Aspell/bin/aspell.exe::default] ... First-change-hook called for temporary buffer ` *temp*' (in `fundamental-mode') [2 times] First-change-hook called for temporary buffer `*GNU Emacs*' (in `fundamental-mode') First-change-hook called for temporary buffer ` *temp*' (in `fundamental-mode') --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- You see (in the *Messages*) that the scratch buffer still was considered as being in 'lisp-interaction-mode'!?? Best regards, Seb In GNU Emacs 24.2.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200) of 2012-12-15 on MS-W7-DANI Bzr revision: 111040 cyd@gnu.org-20121215141602-c4qmr11gc39rrpng Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.2.9200 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/src -Ic:/emacs/libs/libpng-1.2.37-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/zlib-1.2.5 -Ic:/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -Ic:/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9-w32-bin/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.9.2-1-lib/include' Important settings: value of $LANG: FRA locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t global-auto-complete-mode: t auto-complete-mode: t eldoc-mode: t redshank-mode: t flyspell-mode: t yas-global-mode: t yas-minor-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t auto-fill-function: do-auto-fill transient-mark-mode: t hs-minor-mode: t Recent input: C-w C-x u C-a C-k C-k C-k . m e a c e m a c s C-x C-s - m i n i m a l . e l - m i n i m a l . e l C-x C-s C-a C-SPC M-; C-x C-s C-SPC M-; C-x C-s C-k C-k C-e C-x C-s C-a C-SPC M-; C-x C-s SPC ; ; SPC v s SPC C-y C-e ' C-a C-SPC M-; C-x C-s C-k C-k C-k C-k w h e n M-^ M-^ C-e M-^ C-x C-s M-x r e p o r Recent messages: Wrote d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el Mark activated Saving file d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el... Wrote d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el Mark set [2 times] Saving file d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el... Wrote d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el Saving file d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el... Wrote d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el Making completion list... 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gnus-topic mail-extr utf-7 nndraft nnmh nnimap parse-time utf7 gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig gnus-cache bbdb-message sendmail epa-file epa epg epg-config netrc gnutls network-stream starttls tls nntp gnus-leuven gnus-dired dired-sort-map dired-single dired+ dired-x dired-aux dired bbdb-gnus bbdb-mua bbdb-com crm bbdb bbdb-version timezone mule-util org-table two-column thingatpt apropos etags-select etags misearch multi-isearch saveplace server auto-complete-config auto-complete popup rainbow-mode color eldoc edebug redshank skeleton paredit hideshow tabify git-commit vc-git flyspell ispell org-element org-rmail org-mhe org-irc org-info org-gnus org-docview org-bibtex bibtex org-bbdb org-w3m org warnings org-macro org-footnote org-pcomplete pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities noutline outline org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob ob-tangle org-src easy-mmode ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-keys ob-exp ob-comint comint ansi-color ring ob-core ob-eval org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs gnus-sum nnoo gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus gnus-ems gnus-compat url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util url-parse auth-source eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv password-cache url-vars mailcap nnheader gnus-util mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr wid-edit emacs-leuven leuven-theme gnus-load yasnippet help-mode find-func paren mic-paren derived edmacro kmacro idle-require auctex-autoloads tex-site auto-complete-autoloads calfw-autoloads circe-autoloads fuzzy-autoloads gnuplot-mode-autoloads idle-require-autoloads jabber-autoloads lcs-autoloads leuven-theme-autoloads lui-autoloads org-autoloads pager-autoloads popup-autoloads tracking-autoloads shorten-autoloads info easymenu yasnippet-autoloads package cl-macs gv advice help-fns advice-preload cl cl-lib time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp w32-common-fns disp-table w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process w32 multi-tty emacs) -- Sebastien Vauban From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 31 06:18:33 2013 Received: (at 14992) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2013 10:18:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4TUG-0004R7-Ra for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:18:33 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]:33542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4TUE-0004Qp-8C for 14992@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:18:30 -0400 Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so253642ead.17 for <14992@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:18:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=gXHIjBzowB0p2lM4u/1XXzEXVodobfchNA2zTjY8oNo=; b=Q7EvLh1/UR8hgtIv7MzEpMCVtUJhkFy5IzTTDol22gC1MwfrcAo2F8gESY9+fXGFSH C7lBCoEwe4fMUQ4NCxLcX/M0t2S222sSbm5F0I3aCK9udxorRBp58oz68p3Z5bLdmgcF afWxXdUmo2IKvxlhfPA+z5DIgCWVB9R2hORCcs1nNQn91Mt/WuzVyJjYyDTLz9tdvutu jeHZiECopggDqcjiWxPh0Ttr9cYZKsQXkm+r1PXieAdgLl2rJ7NOqiFWPumcHXxk+aoX 39b1F94/kR2wJ49lE47Tuj1jku2ih5x+4S7cmQtYqcjJfdRhXFXL4LtfqFNwUpvvkvUS Warw== X-Received: by 10.14.102.72 with SMTP id c48mr2565375eeg.52.1375265904473; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:18:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.15.23.70 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:17:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <864nbbyxji.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <864nbbyxji.fsf@somewhere.org> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:17:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#14992: 24.2.91; Initial-major-mode not respected! To: Sebastien Vauban Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14992 Cc: 14992@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: > With the following minimal .emacs file [...] > (info) Loading `d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el'...done So, no, you're not using that code as an .emacs file, you're likely doing emacs -Q -l .emacs-minimal.el and, at that point, *scratch* already has been created, in the default major mode. If I put you code on .emacs, I get (info) Loading `c:/Devel/emacs/test/.emacs'... First-change-hook called for temporary buffer ` *temp*' (in `fundamental-mode') [9 times] First-change-hook called for temporary buffer ` *load*' (in `fundamental-mode') [9 times] For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. First-change-hook called for temporary buffer `*scratch*' (in `fundamental-mode') First-change-hook called for temporary buffer `*About GNU Emacs*' (in `fundamental-mode') J From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 31 09:48:20 2013 Received: (at 14992) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2013 13:48:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60467 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4WlI-0006m9-8n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:48:20 -0400 Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:55445 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4WlF-0006lf-Mj for 14992@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:48:18 -0400 Received: from MUNDANEUM. (unknown [10.10.4.62]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB084501167; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:48:10 +0200 (CEST) From: "Sebastien Vauban" To: Juanma Barranquero Subject: Re: bug#14992: 24.2.91; Initial-major-mode not respected! In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:17:44 +0200") Organization: Sebastien Vauban References: <864nbbyxji.fsf@somewhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:47:57 +0200 Message-ID: <86txja96ya.fsf@somewhere.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14992 Cc: 14992@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Juanma Barranquero wrote: > Sebastien Vauban wrote: > >> With the following minimal .emacs file > > [...] > >> (info) Loading `d:/Users/sva/src/emacs-leuven/.emacs-minimal.el'...done > > So, no, you're not using that code as an .emacs file, you're likely doing > > emacs -Q -l .emacs-minimal.el You're right! > and, at that point, *scratch* already has been created, in the default > major mode. > > If I put you code on .emacs, I get > > (info) Loading `c:/Devel/emacs/test/.emacs'... > First-change-hook called for temporary buffer ` *temp*' (in > `fundamental-mode') [9 times] > First-change-hook called for temporary buffer ` *load*' (in > `fundamental-mode') [9 times] > For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. > First-change-hook called for temporary buffer `*scratch*' (in > `fundamental-mode') > First-change-hook called for temporary buffer `*About GNU Emacs*' (in > `fundamental-mode') I thought that the scratch buffer was created at the very end of the "initialization" (i.e., before giving me the relay). All of that *now* makes sense. Thanks for your enlightenment... Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 31 09:58:27 2013 Received: (at 14992-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2013 13:58:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60957 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Wv4-0007Gt-Tc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:58:27 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]:46034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Wv2-0007GZ-R3 for 14992-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:58:25 -0400 Received: by mail-ea0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r16so383534ead.3 for <14992-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=LemXENEOMzKi6tcFa8tqwy5ij91em1dhIMZ6AQgEAKw=; b=VXQqpOYgskyT3uwvkD5WuGzp4uliJvmjy0EEnaAdGu3BbMhM+xZCaEZ8tjYKKyEzXh 9u7XV954A28S99OC8tCFkngWbUAqNQdNKKAsKJ6vAycXcCZskvbn2r57j6a2DysIKEhm 1GrNgR+DruBUXo4TyVILMnmoiAkt1bVcyQiqp4xRtYhUwsOzyFP+xSruxw4Rx+KkLAuf KRlfySXFhuKJVOjIghqP+w/2RFIbuxpGdfNkYP0YbWTIne924B18zT9UWMLHXNeDC75K FmGPPKOvTjPH6iYqjGcnqfuNkz+R7Xiq6KNkEPjdJSBpdXp9ko0UxlDob6l+didVQ9F0 neVQ== X-Received: by 10.15.76.71 with SMTP id m47mr68270984eey.70.1375279098891; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.15.23.70 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86txja96ya.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <864nbbyxji.fsf@somewhere.org> <86txja96ya.fsf@somewhere.org> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:57:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#14992: 24.2.91; Initial-major-mode not respected! To: Sebastien Vauban Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14992-done Cc: 14992-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: > All of that *now* makes sense. Closing this bug. > Thanks for your enlightenment... You're welcome. J From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:14:58 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator