From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:46:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14951: Cannot rm file Resent-From: "ryan.fox@bell.ca" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14951 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14951@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: "bug-coreutils@gnu.org" Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.137476686019575 (code B ref -1); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:41:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2013 15:41:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49346 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Nf0-00055d-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:40:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46537) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2N4m-0003WR-FJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2N4e-0004h0-9u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2N4e-0004gp-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2N4b-0007RS-GN for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2N4W-0004f5-G0 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:21 -0400 Received: from mail1.bemta14.messagelabs.com ([193.109.254.120]:14821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2N4W-0004eB-8D for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:16 -0400 Received: from [194.106.220.35:59920] by server-16.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id EA/AD-31186-23E31F15; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:03:14 +0000 X-Env-Sender: ryan.fox@bell.ca X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-91.messagelabs.com!1374764555!7905061!78 X-Originating-IP: [206.47.0.168] X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.9.11; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17399 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2013 15:03:13 -0000 Received: from srp004371srs (HELO TLS.Exchange.bell.ca) (206.47.0.168) by server-10.tower-91.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 25 Jul 2013 15:03:13 -0000 Received: from hub02-wyn.bell.corp.bce.ca (142.182.199.50) by dm1c8g.exchange1.bell.ca (198.235.102.109) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.5; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:10 -0400 Received: from MBX06.bell.corp.bce.ca ([142.182.199.97]) by hub02-wyn.bell.corp.bce.ca ([142.182.199.50]) with mapi; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:11 -0400 From: "ryan.fox@bell.ca" Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:03:10 -0400 Thread-Topic: Cannot rm file Thread-Index: Ac6JSBP5o+2R2ZzdQvadKDpOFuNTYA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B31D71BD33D42846B7C73055574E21A003CB39EB33MBX06bellcorp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:40:57 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) --_000_B31D71BD33D42846B7C73055574E21A003CB39EB33MBX06bellcorp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cannot delete file: # rm web.process.heartbeat rm: cannot remove `web.process.heartbeat': No such file or directory # rm -f web.process.heartbeat # ll ls: cannot access web.process.heartbeat: No such file or directory total 0 ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? web.process.heartbeat Any idea? --_000_B31D71BD33D42846B7C73055574E21A003CB39EB33MBX06bellcorp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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= --_000_B31D71BD33D42846B7C73055574E21A003CB39EB33MBX06bellcorp_-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:46:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14951: Cannot rm file Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14951 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "ryan.fox@bell.ca" Cc: 14951@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14951-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14951.137476926626153 (code B ref 14951); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 14951) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2013 16:21:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49437 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2OHn-0006ng-53 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:21:06 -0400 Received: from mail3.vodafone.ie ([213.233.128.45]:50584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2OHj-0006mj-TF for 14951@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:21:00 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUBAMtP8VFtTOjc/2dsb2JhbAANTYZQuxmBLYMYAQEBBDIBRhALDQsJFg8JAwIBAgFFBg0BBQIBAa8zkjuOPIFBB4QAA54ljhyBZw Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.79]) ([109.76.232.220]) by mail3.vodafone.ie with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2013 17:20:53 +0100 Message-ID: <51F15064.6090907@draigBrady.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:20:52 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tag 14951 notabug close 14951 stop On 07/25/2013 04:03 PM, ryan.fox@bell.ca wrote: > Cannot delete file: > > # rm web.process.heartbeat > rm: cannot remove `web.process.heartbeat': No such file or directory > # rm -f web.process.heartbeat > # ll > ls: cannot access web.process.heartbeat: No such file or directory > total 0 > ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? web.process.heartbeat Notice the "? " at the start of the file name. Seems like you have a file with non standard characters in the name. `ls -lb` might indicate better what the chars are, and you could use ctrl-v to input literal controls chars as arguments to rm. Alternatively you may prefer to graphically select the file for deletion with xdg-open . thanks, Pįdraig. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:46:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14951: Cannot rm file Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14951 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Cc: "ryan.fox@bell.ca" , 14951@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14951-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14951.137477633414128 (code B ref 14951); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 14951) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2013 18:18:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49586 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Q7p-0003fo-Mo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:18:54 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:59879) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Q7m-0003fY-VJ for 14951@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:18:51 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3c1MBJ4g1gz3hhV9; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3c1MBJ2qmBzbbjD; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:18:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2HgXML5D0oVd; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:18:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 4io8Oku1tC0OdxYrOtXRKox4qk8B4w1cRDw6XkjtP98= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-102-64.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.102.64]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:18:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1AB70E6B02; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:18:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <51F15064.6090907@draigBrady.com> X-Yow: Who wants some OYSTERS with SEN-SEN an' COOL WHIP? Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:18:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <51F15064.6090907@draigBrady.com> ("=?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady"'s message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:20:52 +0100") Message-ID: <8738r2wlix.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) PĆ”draig Brady writes: > On 07/25/2013 04:03 PM, ryan.fox@bell.ca wrote: >> Cannot delete file: >> >> # rm web.process.heartbeat >> rm: cannot remove `web.process.heartbeat': No such file or directory >> # rm -f web.process.heartbeat >> # ll >> ls: cannot access web.process.heartbeat: No such file or directory >> total 0 >> ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? web.process.heartbeat > > Notice the "? " at the start of the file name. > Seems like you have a file with non standard characters in the name. I don't think so, it's rather the unknown date. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:46:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14951: Cannot rm file Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14951 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: "ryan.fox@bell.ca" , 14951@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14951-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14951.137477710316482 (code B ref 14951); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 14951) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2013 18:31:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2QKE-0004Hm-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:31:42 -0400 Received: from mail3.vodafone.ie ([213.233.128.45]:39323) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2QKC-0004HT-Th for 14951@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:31:41 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUBAHhu8VFtTOjc/2dsb2JhbAANToZQR7pVgS2DGAEBAQQjDwFGEAsNCwICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFBg0BBQIBAa9VdJFMgSiOVQeCX4EhA54ljhw Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.79]) ([109.76.232.220]) by mail3.vodafone.ie with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2013 19:31:34 +0100 Message-ID: <51F16F05.7070104@draigBrady.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:31:33 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51F15064.6090907@draigBrady.com> <8738r2wlix.fsf@igel.home> In-Reply-To: <8738r2wlix.fsf@igel.home> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 07/25/2013 07:18 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > PĆ”draig Brady writes: > >> On 07/25/2013 04:03 PM, ryan.fox@bell.ca wrote: >>> Cannot delete file: >>> >>> # rm web.process.heartbeat >>> rm: cannot remove `web.process.heartbeat': No such file or directory >>> # rm -f web.process.heartbeat >>> # ll >>> ls: cannot access web.process.heartbeat: No such file or directory >>> total 0 >>> ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? web.process.heartbeat >> >> Notice the "? " at the start of the file name. >> Seems like you have a file with non standard characters in the name. > > I don't think so, it's rather the unknown date. Yes probably. Not sure how I missed the other ? :) Still seems like an issue outside of rm. I'd suggest running a check on your file system. thanks, PĆ”draig. 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