From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:10:16 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14945 <14945@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14945 <14945@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; (elisp) `The Mark': mention that mouse selection turns on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily Reply-To: bug#14945 <14945@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:10:16 +0000 retitle 14945 24.3.50; (elisp) `The Mark': mention that mouse selection tur= ns on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily reassign 14945 emacs submitter 14945 Drew Adams severity 14945 minor tag 14945 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 24 10:41:30 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2013 14:41:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47204 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fu-0007ky-AV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46446) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fr-0007kd-6o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fk-0007GA-VJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fk-0007G6-SQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48167) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fj-0002hw-Lu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fi-0007Fs-Hb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:19 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28037) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fi-0007Fo-Al for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:18 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r6OEfGRY028978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:41:17 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6OEfFCE004229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:41:16 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6OEfFYg018599 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:41:15 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <34e84b3b-2268-4430-8bdc-f8cc67e68c3f@default> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:41:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; (elisp) `The Mark': mention that mouse selection turns on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) The doc says nothing about selection with the mouse activating the region and turning on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily. But it does so. emacs -Q In *scratch* type this: transient-mark-mode (region-active-p) mark-active M-: transient-mark-mode ; to turn it off - verify with C-h v. Put cursor after each of the sexps and hit C-x C-e. Now select each one using only the mouse and use C-x C-e again for each. Selecting with the mouse turns on `transient-mark-mode', at least temporarily - the non-nil value is `(only)'. Lisp users should be informed about this. For one thing, they will not otherwise understand certain code, including `region-active-p', wrt mouse selection. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-07-14 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113423 lekktu@gmail.com-20130715004922-i67tg2ois14h3fpm Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D'-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D'-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' LDFLAGS=3D'-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 19 21:55:07 2021 Received: (at 14945) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 02:55:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52340 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l23eE-0007Xg-Uy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 21:55:07 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39364) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l23eB-0007X5-OB for 14945@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 21:55:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uCcl+X+9rd+oUsgIS+MTHBvzy4o6uMQbTqU3eOvBu7I=; b=VFCIuWGvPeuvBkyb+0P7L4zYGu pf+ySjpOkZWlGm4m/ejfQYGs9dLw4VZgSmFceNE43VX4PN+zdKdH+V+lxlPM4MhJdP5sbD80ugWr8 ggKDAUUWd894b8AkgMHmErUcveS9ONCdjjH+vdZaUeJ6dnvG/ApUPxYqilsb3HnGshOM=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l23e3-0008JD-39; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:54:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#14945: 24.3.50; (elisp) `The Mark': mention that mouse selection turns on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily References: <34e84b3b-2268-4430-8bdc-f8cc67e68c3f@default> X-Now-Playing: Sina Bakare's _Nigeria 70 (No Wahala: Highlife, Afro-Funk & Juju 1973-1987)_: "Africa" Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:54:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <34e84b3b-2268-4430-8bdc-f8cc67e68c3f@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:41:14 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87sg6w48si.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > The doc says nothing about selection with the mouse activating the > region and turning on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily. But it > does so. I've now mentioned this in the manual in Emacs 28. 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