From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:25:31 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14943 <14943@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14943 <14943@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for editing Reply-To: bug#14943 <14943@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:25:31 +0000 retitle 14943 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for ed= iting reassign 14943 emacs submitter 14943 Drew Adams severity 14943 minor tag 14943 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 24 01:50:38 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2013 05:50:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46060 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V1ryA-0004sW-7R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 01:50:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48273) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V1ry7-0004sC-VP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 01:50:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V1ry1-0003kq-PX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 01:50:30 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V1ry1-0003km-MR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 01:50:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49990) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V1ry0-00015r-DC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 01:50:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V1rxy-0003kU-JB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 01:50:28 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:34942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V1rxy-0003kO-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 01:50:26 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r6O5oOE9016516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:50:25 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6O5oNJG003720 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:50:24 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6O5oNFc003861 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:50:23 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for editing X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) emacs -Q Visit a file and make some text invisible, e.g., using C-S-mouse-2 >=20 Special Properties > Invisible. That's all. emacs -Q ; another session. Visit the same file and try to make some other text invisible. You get this (nearly incomprehensible) prompt: "...part-of-name.el locked by dradams@DRADA... (pid 6928): (s, q, p, ?)? " When is Emacs going to stop treating operations like changing text properties the same way it treats normal edits that would affect the file if saved? This is silly. There is buffer modification and buffer modification. This kind of modification - changing text properties - is not something we should be locking a file for and warning users about. And then if you can actually figure out that to be able to figure out the message/prompt you can hit `?' for help, and if you do that, you get this lovely explanation: It has been detected that you want to modify a file that someone else has already started modifying in Emacs. You can teal the file; the other user becomes the intruder if (s)he erver unmodifies the file and then changes it again. You can

roceed; you edit at your own (and the other user's) risk. You can uit; don't modify this file. I don't even know what to say about how bad that is. And FWIW I typed it all in - it does not get logged to *Messages* and I didn't realize it was available in *Help* after I tried to click it to select it and *Help* disappeared! This is what happened when I clicked *Help* (only the second msg appeared in the echo area; both messages are taken from *Messages*): ask-user-about-lock: Non-character input-event mouse-minibuffer-check: Wrong type argument: window-valid-p, # Pretty bad, Emacs. You can do much better. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-07-14 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113423 lekktu@gmail.com-20130715004922-i67tg2ois14h3fpm Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D'-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D'-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' LDFLAGS=3D'-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 24 02:04:27 2013 Received: (at 14943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2013 06:04:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46135 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V1sBW-0005iu-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:04:27 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:40237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V1sBV-0005iJ-CZ for 14943@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:04:25 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r6O64IhF028088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <14943@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:04:19 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6O64HXA011779 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <14943@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:04:18 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6O64HQU012626 for <14943@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:04:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <88d35511-481b-40ed-a082-7fa3d4814865@default> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 23:04:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: 14943@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#14943: 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for editing References: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> In-Reply-To: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14943 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Also: When editing in the first session, save the file after making some text invisible. Then in the second session there is no conflict. And you see the invisible text anyway - the invisibilty was not saved. This shows, if it wasn't already clear, that the buffer modification made no difference for saving, unlike, say, the addition of enriched-text properties, which do get saved. Why on earth are we considering that there is an edit conflict if no savable change has been made to the buffer? The is quite misguided, AFAICT= . From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 24 02:12:02 2013 Received: (at 14943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2013 06:12:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V1sIr-0006BQ-SH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:12:02 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:46978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V1sIq-0006Ai-1N for 14943@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:12:00 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r6O6BreY001787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <14943@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:11:54 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6O6BqkA004068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <14943@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:11:52 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6O6Bqn6000520 for <14943@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:11:52 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 23:11:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: 14943@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#14943: 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for editing References: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> <88d35511-481b-40ed-a082-7fa3d4814865@default> In-Reply-To: <88d35511-481b-40ed-a082-7fa3d4814865@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14943 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Using the same menu to add property read-only does NOT show the buffer as modified, and thus does NOT manifest an edit conflict with another session. That is how the other items on the same menu should be handled too. Besides the edit conflict, just trying to kill the buffer or exit Emacs brings up the same problem: Emacs thinks you have really modified the buffer in a way such that if you kill it your changes will be lost for the file. Of course they will! These are not changes that are ever saved in the file. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 00:25:23 2014 Received: (at 14943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 05:25:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56079 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC0Pq-0001tb-SR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:25:23 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54153) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC0Pp-0001tT-AO for 14943@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 00:25:21 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC0PY-0005fa-08; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 06:25:04 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#14943: 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for editing References: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:23:55 -0800 In-Reply-To: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:50:22 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87d2iy2n4k.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC0PY-0005fa-08 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392441905.16374@Nb9Ay4/TzZmhlB+Nje+A4Q X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14943 Cc: 14943@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > Visit a file and make some text invisible, e.g., using C-S-mouse-2 > > Special Properties > Invisible. That's all. > > emacs -Q ; another session. > > Visit the same file and try to make some other text invisible. > > You get this (nearly incomprehensible) prompt: > > "...part-of-name.el locked by dradams@DRADA... (pid 6928): (s, q, p, ?)? " Yeah, adding text properties to a buffer marks it as changed (which is correct, I guess). But is that really useful for buffers that correspond to files? On the other hand, it's one of the "why did you do that, then?" issues. Why would you do that? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 04:22:21 2014 Received: (at 14943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 09:22:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56408 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC477-0008GY-RP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 04:22:21 -0500 Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:52986) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC471-0008GL-N7 for 14943@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 04:22:15 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0O00B006N0SH00@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 14943@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:21:22 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0O009A47BL2Y50@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:21:22 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:21:52 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14943: 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for editing In-reply-to: <87d2iy2n4k.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Message-id: <83wqh6vu1b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> <87d2iy2n4k.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14943 Cc: 14943@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:23:55 -0800 > Cc: 14943@debbugs.gnu.org > > Yeah, adding text properties to a buffer marks it as changed (which is > correct, I guess). But is that really useful for buffers that > correspond to files? How can Emacs know whether these text properties will or won't be saved on disk? That depends on the major mode: e.g., in enhanced-text mode, they will be on disk. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 11 06:50:00 2014 Received: (at 14943) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 11:50:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDBqe-00014Y-TW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:50:00 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38563) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDBqZ-00014M-Mm for 14943@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:49:55 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WDBqB-0006lP-Lu; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:49:29 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14943: 24.3.50; Now just making text invisible locks the file for editing References: <9ceffdb7-c90f-4053-ba1a-a4b4f28d86c2@default> <87d2iy2n4k.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83wqh6vu1b.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 03:48:10 -0800 In-Reply-To: <83wqh6vu1b.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:21:52 +0200") Message-ID: <871tz9lvk5.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WDBqB-0006lP-Lu X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392724170.07313@eSK+fL19D9n8+3qYIhHdkA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14943 Cc: 14943@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen >> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:23:55 -0800 >> Cc: 14943@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Yeah, adding text properties to a buffer marks it as changed (which is >> correct, I guess). But is that really useful for buffers that >> correspond to files? > > How can Emacs know whether these text properties will or won't be > saved on disk? That depends on the major mode: e.g., in enhanced-text > mode, they will be on disk. True. I think just leaving it as is is the most likely general solution. Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 11 06:50:01 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 11:50:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45922 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDBqi-00014j-Lh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:50:00 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38569) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDBqe-00014W-9U for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:49:56 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WDBqN-0006lj-IX for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:49:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 03:48:23 -0800 Message-Id: <87zjlxkgzc.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #14943 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WDBqN-0006lj-IX X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392724180.46527@iSfrxMVN/ASj93TlpXeJcA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 14943 wontfix close 14943 From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:25:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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