GNU bug report logs - #14921
24.3.50; Disable mail menu items unless configured

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3.50; Disable mail menu items unless configured
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:22:46 -0700 (PDT)

Please remove (not :visible) or disable (not :enable) all menu items
that have to do with mail or news unless Emacs is actually
configured for these, i.e., unless the menu items actually work.

In my case, on Windows, none of these are operational:

`Read Net News (Gnus)'
`Read Mail (with RMAIL)'
`Send Mail (with Gnus Message)'

It is impolite and disrespectul of users to pollute the menu space
with items and menus that are not usable.


In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2013-07-14 on ODIEONE
Bzr revision: 113423 lekktu <at> gmail.com-20130715004922-i67tg2ois14h3fpm
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --prefix=/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=yes,glyphs
 CFLAGS='-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS='-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include'
 LDFLAGS='-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib''

Message #8 received at 14921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: 14921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#14921: 24.3.50; Disable mail menu items unless configured
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:26:38 -0700 (PDT)

> `Read Net News (Gnus)'
> `Read Mail (with RMAIL)'
> `Send Mail (with Gnus Message)'

I guess I was wrong about `Send Mail (with Gnus Message)'.
It is operational in my case - it simply makes use of my
external mail client.

The bug in this case is the misleading menu item name.
It should say only `Send Mail', not also `(with Gnus Message)'.

But again, if not too onerous, the UI should test whether the
user actually has sending mail from Emacs configured, and
disable the item if not.

Message #11 received at 14921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 14921 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14921: 24.3.50; Disable mail menu items unless configured
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:12:52 +0200

Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

>> `Read Net News (Gnus)'
>> `Read Mail (with RMAIL)'
>> `Send Mail (with Gnus Message)'
>
> I guess I was wrong about `Send Mail (with Gnus Message)'.
> It is operational in my case - it simply makes use of my
> external mail client.
>
> The bug in this case is the misleading menu item name.
> It should say only `Send Mail', not also `(with Gnus Message)'.
>
> But again, if not too onerous, the UI should test whether the
> user actually has sending mail from Emacs configured, and
> disable the item if not.

Looks like Stefan did some renaming of these items a few years back.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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