From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 18:41:28 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2013 22:41:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56742 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrSR-0000T5-H7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37648) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrSO-0000Sp-Kf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrSG-0007tj-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrSG-0007te-2Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrSD-0006LR-81 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrSA-0007sP-Fd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrSA-0007sL-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:10 -0400 Received: from adsl-68-77-23-184.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net ([68.77.23.184]:35362 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrS9-0002tv-Tj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:41:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:41:07 -0500 Message-Id: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> From: "Roland Winkler" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) The node "Library Search" suggests to to set EMACSLOADPATH to some user directory such as /home/foo/.emacs.d/lisp. Yet this does not agree with the docstring of load-path and emacs fails miserably if one uses export EMACSLOADPATH=/home/foo/.emacs.d/lisp The proper meaning of EMACSLOADPATH seems to be the one given in the docstring of load-path saying that EMACSLOADPATH overrides the default value of load-path specified by file `epaths.h' when Emacs was built. The docstring of load-path also says that an element `nil' means "try default directory". Yet what is the "default directory" in this context? default-directory is a buffer-local variable with default nil. I looked into this because I was looking for a way to _extend_ the emacs load path in a Makefile generated via autoconf. Autoconf uses the shell script elisp-comp to compile lisp files. This script uses echo "(setq load-path (cons nil load-path))" > script $EMACS -batch -q -l script -f batch-byte-compile *.el || exit $? In such a hard-coded setting I cannot (easily) extend the load-path via the emacs option --load. But the purpose of loading the file script is not clear to me either. In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2013-03-27 on regnitz Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10706000 System Description: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 18:48:48 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2013 22:48:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56753 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrZY-0001hS-41 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:48:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34139 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrZW-0001hK-C5 for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:48:46 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrZV-0003uD-3h; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:48:45 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: "Roland Winkler" Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: ASLET broadside passwd Baranyi Firewalls assassination X-Ran: lssVq9ktDE-^H/c:;wV;hT.^jr+,HaW]+$&)pC'P&itc0JA[^,{Qqlvj_.Iq6BE#\fDG.0 X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:48:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> (Roland Winkler's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:41:07 -0500") Message-ID: <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) "Roland Winkler" wrote: > The node "Library Search" suggests to to set EMACSLOADPATH to some > user directory such as /home/foo/.emacs.d/lisp. I don't quite see that it literally says that; but the info node should be tidied up a little bit. > The proper meaning of EMACSLOADPATH seems to be the one given in the > docstring of load-path saying that EMACSLOADPATH overrides the > default value of load-path specified by file `epaths.h' when Emacs > was built. Yes. > The docstring of load-path also says that an element `nil' means > "try default directory". Yet what is the "default directory" in this > context? Whatever the value is where you call `load' from. > default-directory is a buffer-local variable with default nil. Seems like a red-herring. Normally every buffer has a non-nil value. > I looked into this because I was looking for a way to _extend_ the > emacs load path in a Makefile generated via autoconf. Use "emacs -L /path/to/add". (cf http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12100 ) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 19:11:24 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2013 23:11:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrvQ-0002ST-Hu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:11:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34564 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrvO-0002SJ-9A for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:11:23 -0400 Received: from adsl-68-77-23-184.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net ([68.77.23.184]:35461 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyrvM-00048K-V3; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:11:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:11:18 -0500 From: "Roland Winkler" To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH In-Reply-To: <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2 trial under 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) On Mon Jul 15 2013 Glenn Morris wrote: > > I looked into this because I was looking for a way to _extend_ the > > emacs load path in a Makefile generated via autoconf. > > Use "emacs -L /path/to/add". ...as I was trying to explain: this does not work with a Makefile generated via autoconf. > (cf http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12100 ) I agree with http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12100#19 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 19:23:32 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2013 23:23:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uys79-0002uS-Rx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:23:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34752 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uys76-0002uJ-Sr for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:23:29 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uys75-0005O7-CI; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:23:27 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: "Roland Winkler" Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Spook: csystems Rumsfeld Montenegro Al Jazeera military afsatcom X-Ran: 6(|@z>1_N;B8uXJ1L7P7'evWur?wE._PWT?R@]^\(m[\8p*$*hDmSz`g)0=eWLyB)MF1f- X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:23:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:11:18 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) "Roland Winkler" wrote: >> Use "emacs -L /path/to/add". > > ...as I was trying to explain: this does not work with a Makefile > generated via autoconf. Oh, I get it now, I think. Surely autoconf must provide _some_ way for you to customize the command-line it uses, and if it does not, that sounds like an autoconf bug, doesn't it? Can you do EMACS="emacs -L /path/to/add" or is EMACS treated literally as an executable name? > I agree with > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12100#19 So do I; but http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14513#102 Patches welcome. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 19:29:55 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2013 23:29:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56879 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UysDK-00037y-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:29:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34852 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UysDI-00037i-M9 for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:29:53 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UysDH-0007Ni-Dx; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:29:51 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: "Roland Winkler" Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Spook: Jiang Zemin BRLO secure Rule Psix halcon MIT-LL 9705 X-Ran: D}?P2/lJ;.Nh[`8X"&`lz&DXpg3LCil;v0]Tq7NTo1QF|2|Z&Mh>\p X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:29:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:23:27 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) Glenn Morris wrote: > Surely autoconf must provide _some_ way for you to customize the > command-line it uses, and if it does not, that sounds like an autoconf > bug, doesn't it? BTW, I guess you mean automake not autoconf. Also, perhaps this an automake bug which is fixed: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11806 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 20:34:10 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2013 00:34:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56933 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytDV-0005Li-Jw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:34:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36006 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytDT-0005LZ-P1 for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:34:08 -0400 Received: from adsl-68-77-23-184.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net ([68.77.23.184]:35681 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UytDS-0003BY-L7; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:34:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:34:03 -0500 From: "Roland Winkler" To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH In-Reply-To: References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 8.2 trial under 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) On Mon Jul 15 2013 Glenn Morris wrote: > Also, perhaps this an automake bug which is fixed: > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11806 Thanks for the hint. Indeed, this bug report seems to be outdated. In GNU Automake 1.13 the script elisp-comp has been removed completely, see https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2012-12/msg00038.html (and 1.14 has been released since then, too) For lisp files, automake 1.14 generates a Makefile using an approach that has been completely redesigned. I need to check more carefully whether now automake allows to extend the lisp load path. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 20:55:12 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2013 00:55:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytXr-0006EE-Ke for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:55:12 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36304 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytXo-0006E0-4p for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:55:08 -0400 Received: from adsl-68-77-23-184.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net ([68.77.23.184]:35720 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UytXm-0008Ey-G2; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:55:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20964.39399.830180.518340@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:55:03 -0500 From: "Roland Winkler" To: Glenn Morris , 14876@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH In-Reply-To: <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 8.2 trial under 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) On Mon Jul 15 2013 Roland Winkler wrote: > For lisp files, automake 1.14 generates a Makefile using an approach > that has been completely redesigned. I need to check more carefully > whether now automake allows to extend the lisp load path. Indeed, the automake variable AM_ELCFLAGS does exactly what I need. Hooray. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 20:55:18 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2013 00:55:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56992 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytXw-0006EW-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:55:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36309 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytXt-0006EN-7y for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:55:14 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UytXq-0008Jh-TR; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:55:10 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: "Roland Winkler" Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Spook: SWAT TELINT AFSPC Rand Corporation JPL encryption CBNRC X-Ran: 9jZI4{():*cy|9@`Z%wU@+RFU]':Q"?K-/}37fOV\>ke,0IE,\9I,9<`$[W-*.w)(-Sne; X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:55:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:34:03 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) "Roland Winkler" wrote: > In GNU Automake 1.13 the script elisp-comp has been removed > completely, see > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2012-12/msg00038.html > > (and 1.14 has been released since then, too) > > For lisp files, automake 1.14 generates a Makefile using an approach > that has been completely redesigned. I need to check more carefully > whether now automake allows to extend the lisp load path. Great! Looks like you should just be able to set (AM_)ELCFLAGS to -L ... in recent automake. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 21:16:29 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2013 01:16:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57034 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytsS-00074I-0a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:16:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36628 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UytsP-00074A-SX for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:16:26 -0400 Received: from adsl-68-77-23-184.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net ([68.77.23.184]:35752 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UytsO-0008Cj-Ss; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:16:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20964.40678.246559.282930@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:16:22 -0500 From: "Roland Winkler" To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH In-Reply-To: References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 8.2 trial under 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) On Mon Jul 15 2013 Glenn Morris wrote: > Great! Looks like you should just be able to set (AM_)ELCFLAGS to -L ... > in recent automake. With automake 1.14, by default, the compilation of lisp code uses only the emacs option -batch. It does not include the option -q. I do not know whether this is reasonable. ...When I think about it, this might even be considered a regression compared with the old automake shell script elisp-comp which did use the option -q. Should I send a bug report to the automake maintainers about this? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 21:39:56 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2013 01:39:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57060 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyuF9-00082Y-Gm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:39:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37000 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyuF6-00082Q-UO for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:39:53 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UyuF5-0008Gb-Gm; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:39:51 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: "Roland Winkler" Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20964.40678.246559.282930@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Spook: virus Ft. Bragg Islam Abduganievich Karimov government X-Ran: av&m{Y'u+JeXA.Xj={A"MFNK%X=~cJiWxJ>W'>:._+v[7v=(#P}+&Z3_Nos!R-G'fh^j=% X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:39:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20964.40678.246559.282930@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:16:22 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) "Roland Winkler" wrote: > With automake 1.14, by default, the compilation of lisp code uses > only the emacs option -batch. It does not include the option -q. > I do not know whether this is reasonable. ...When I think about it, > this might even be considered a regression compared with the old > automake shell script elisp-comp which did use the option -q. > Should I send a bug report to the automake maintainers about this? -batch implies -q. (I always forget that as well; it's a non-obvious relationship IMO.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 15 23:14:55 2013 Received: (at 14876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2013 03:14:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57168 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyvj4-0003Vt-U2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:14:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:38622 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyvj2-0003Vf-6v for 14876@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:14:52 -0400 Received: from adsl-68-77-23-184.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net ([68.77.23.184]:35973 helo=regnitz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyvj1-0004bF-2I; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:14:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20964.47785.93532.385327@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:14:49 -0500 From: "Roland Winkler" To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH In-Reply-To: References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20964.33174.309621.114986@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20964.38139.990086.220391@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20964.40678.246559.282930@gargle.gargle.HOWL> X-Mailer: VM 8.2 trial under 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876 Cc: 14876@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) On Mon Jul 15 2013 Glenn Morris wrote: > "Roland Winkler" wrote: > > With automake 1.14, by default, the compilation of lisp code uses > > only the emacs option -batch. It does not include the option -q. > > I do not know whether this is reasonable. ...When I think about it, > > this might even be considered a regression compared with the old > > automake shell script elisp-comp which did use the option -q. > > Should I send a bug report to the automake maintainers about this? > > -batch implies -q. > > (I always forget that as well; it's a non-obvious relationship IMO.) Ah, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 14 03:39:46 2013 Received: (at 14876-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2013 08:39:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VgsSo-0002pq-6l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 03:39:46 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:58414 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VgsSm-0002pj-Lx for 14876-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 03:39:45 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgsSk-00082i-Vm; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 03:39:43 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 14876-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14876: 24.3; load-path and environment variable EMACSLOADPATH References: <87d2qjphto.fsf@gnu.org> <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: Albright Ron Brown Craig Livingstone AK-47 David John X-Ran: #i*_zb3x^>RIN9DnXkMd3+2"aDSmc2gN[#fQ/?a1_XB6M/JUw0@X=n9BU-@~j#k<1C-~sI X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 03:39:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <52vc4b7837.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:48:44 -0400") Message-ID: <4qppq3bcmp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14876-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Version: 24.4 I finally got round to updating the "Library Search" section. 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