From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 11:15:49 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2013 15:15:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxf4W-0004Fw-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:15:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57135) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxb7M-0002QN-3U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:02:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxb7D-0004Jt-Al for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:02:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33835) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxb7D-0004Jp-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:02:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxb78-00029R-Al for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:02:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxb75-0004JL-Lm for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:02:14 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]:58967) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxb75-0004J8-Cq for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:02:11 -0400 Received: from debian.localnet (gw3.infra.univ-bordeaux.fr [147.210.245.180]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LsftZ-1UCtZG2KJF-012oc6; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:02:07 +0200 From: Andreas Enge To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:02:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.2.0-4-amd64; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:oLm3JP/+Y2ZNr2Z8QZ+jIA5WZhTHZnz071s7lUQPa16 eKlCMn1q5LHZGRP20ut/exGD8oU5yX9Z0VPw0wnfpDs0P7JQz7 AKyWvABZEK/ru1PuBHMOIXLKNTzzdEutAb4Fqg+1E3CFr7sFXX S9PNRhUFtz5hUoxI3mo5J/KBekzOyt05gb7EnkS00zb2teHaOk CKUkE99oTZYeT0a5baE8167edvaNuQq3oC6ytTRB+54aTCbMOJ VwCACWa3vxqMMEknzv8SAjtI/KEAmTVLqNBvgm2irmRIMDIL9D yjGMgfXdKhG8M/VRto11vzkZ+pWTX+V5Xsb1fsWjN7uO61N5Um sQlnsJO1h99ulTCXomVE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:15:44 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) The build of linux-libre-headers-3.3.8 currently fails because the tarball cannot be downloaded any more from http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/3.3.8-gnu/ Instead, there is a new version in http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/3.3.8-gnu1/ Should we switch to this one? Or update to the newest version? In all cases, I am afraid a complete rebuild will be triggered, so we might as well advance in the version numbers. Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 12 18:30:10 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2013 22:30:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51361 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxlqr-0001Z2-Rc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:30:10 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:50220) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uxlqn-0001YC-L5 for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:30:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061A6FCC; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T+L9mm2PsqHy; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70A7CC4F; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:30:03 +0200 (CEST) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Andreas Enge , Alexandre Oliva Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 24 Messidor an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:30:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> (Andreas Enge's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:02:05 +0200") Message-ID: <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello, (Cc: Alexandre Oliva of Linux-Libre.) Andreas Enge skribis: > The build of linux-libre-headers-3.3.8 currently fails because the tarbal= l=20 > cannot be downloaded any more from > http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/3.3.8-gnu/ > Instead, there is a new version in > http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/3.3.8-gnu1/ I just checked and the latter has a different SHA256 (1860as3dwh7f3im1sq3x06awmil9vppl6igg2gnva5w9mbkw2fc8). > Should we switch to this one? Or update to the newest version? In all=20 > cases, I am afraid a complete rebuild will be triggered, so we might as=20 > well advance in the version numbers. Indeed. Since we=E2=80=99re about to release a new version of Guix, I=E2=80=99d rat= her keep using 3.3.8. Alexandre: could you reinstate the original http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/3.3.8-gnu/linux-libre= -3.3.8-gnu.tar.xz? It would be ideal if the tarballs were on ftp.gnu.org. I could do it if you don=E2=80=99t want to bother, provided the FTP admins allow it. WDYT? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 14 09:55:53 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2013 13:55:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53952 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyMmG-0001JY-FZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:55:52 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:53097) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyMm9-0001IG-RN for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:55:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B54104B; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:55:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nMkeb4ycBfzl; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:55:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44C9DDC1; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:55:40 +0200 (CEST) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: "Jason Self" Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared References: <1373776087.18732@bluehome.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 26 Messidor an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:55:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1373776087.18732@bluehome.net> (Jason Self's message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:28:07 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87vc4ddz50.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Enge , Alexandre Oliva X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) "Jason Self" skribis: > My understanding is that the change from gnu to gnu1 is the result of > changes that were needed to the deblobbing. Specifically to allow the > loading of the firmware used by ath9k-htc, now that it's free [0]... > i.e. 3.3.8-gnu and 3.3.8-gnu1 aren't the same source code. OK, thanks for the info. It=E2=80=99s hard for us to deal with disappearing software. In this case, we=E2=80=99re currently using this tarball just to install the Linux-Libre headers to build libc, and our =E2=80=98linux-libre=E2=80=99 package can us= e a different upstream version than =E2=80=98linux-libre-headers=E2=80=99 anyway. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 14 14:03:01 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2013 18:03:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54121 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyQdP-0002kd-Oa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:00 -0400 Received: from q-static-134-170.avvanta.com ([206.124.134.170]:50068 helo=bluehome.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UyDuv-0006ET-Bo for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:28:14 -0400 Received: by bluehome.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 297CB780AE2; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason Self" Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic=20Court=C3=A8s?= Message-Id: <1373776087.18732@bluehome.net> In-Reply-To: <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:28:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bound1373776087" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:02:58 -0400 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Enge , Alexandre Oliva X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --bound1373776087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My understanding is that the change from gnu to gnu1 is the result of changes that were needed to the deblobbing. Specifically to allow the loading of the firmware used by ath9k-htc, now that it's free [0]... i.e. 3.3.8-gnu and 3.3.8-gnu1 aren't the same source code. [0] https://www.fsf.org/news/ryf-certification-thinkpenguin-usb-with-atheros-chip --bound1373776087-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 17 09:31:50 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2013 13:31:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60547 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UzRpc-0004q4-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:31:49 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:59349) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UzRpY-0004ps-I7 for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:31:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34349B9A; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:31:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ItioJXzNFDNH; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:31:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1DD4A95; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:31:42 +0200 (CEST) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared References: <1373776087.18732@bluehome.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 29 Messidor an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:31:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1373776087.18732@bluehome.net> (Jason Self's message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:28:07 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87k3kps475.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: Andreas Enge , Alexandre Oliva , Jason Self X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) I=E2=80=99ve asked ftp-upload@ if they could allow me to upload linux-libre tarballs to ftp.gnu.org. In the meantime, I=E2=80=99ve uploaded this tarball to ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/mirror and changed linux.scm to refer to it. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 19 08:09:44 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2013 12:09:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36967 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V09VH-0001jY-L3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:09:43 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:34991) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V09VE-0001jK-U1 for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:09:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7AFFC7; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:09:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RMLYglHU7NPC; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:09:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto (unknown [193.50.110.85]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BB9DAEC; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:09:38 +0200 (CEST) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Alexandre Oliva Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 1 Thermidor an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:09:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alexandre Oliva's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:08:43 -0300") Message-ID: <8761w6hhtq.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Enge X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Alexandre Oliva skribis: > On Jul 12, 2013, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) wrote: > >> Since we=E2=80=99re about to release a new version of Guix, I=E2=80=99d = rather keep >> using 3.3.8. > >> Alexandre: could you reinstate the original >> http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/3.3.8-gnu/linux-li= bre-3.3.8-gnu.tar.xz? > > I suppose you don't want to prevent users of guix from using ath9k wifi > cards, so I strongly suggest switching to 3.3.8-gnu1. Of course not, but again, this one is used to get headers against which to build glibc, so that=E2=80=99s not a problem. > Indeed, I think you'd be better off with some LTS version of GNU > Linux-libre, rather than the dead 3.3 branch. But that's your call. When we have a stand-alone, bootable distro, we=E2=80=99ll certainly want to synchronize with you for the choice of the default kernel version. >> It would be ideal if the tarballs were on ftp.gnu.org. I could do it if >> you don=E2=80=99t want to bother, provided the FTP admins allow it. WDY= T? > > I'd be glad with such an arrangement. Great. > Now, another possibility that I think would make more sense for guix is > to have its sources consolidated in a single place, rather than > scattered all over and at risk of having them pulled from under you. Actually, our continuous integration server at http://hydra.gnu.org does that transparently: it caches all the source tarballs, along with build byproducts. So when a tarball vanishes from its upstream site, it=E2=80=99s usually not= a blocking problem. Yet, it=E2=80=99s preferable to have them elsewhere, bec= ause they will eventually be garbage-collected from hydra.gnu.org. [...] > When we get GNU Linux-libre at ftp.gnu.org, it could then be hard links, > so that if we remove some tarball it won't go away from your =E2=80=9Ccop= y=E2=80=9D, but > until then, you might be better off holding your own copy rather than > assuming our primary repository has infinite space. Unfortunately it > doesn't, and I have to clean things up quite often. For sources, I at > least keep enough bits around that the tarballs can be reconstructed in > a bit-exact fashion, but for binaries, when they're gone, they're gone > forever. However, considering we put out multiple GBs of builds per > week, I don't think it's realistic to keep them all forever. Not in our > own server, not at ftp.gnu.org. What do you mean by =E2=80=9Cmultiple GBs of builds per week=E2=80=9D? Lin= ux{,-Libre} releases are not that frequent, are they? The policy at ftp.gnu.org has always been to keep everything forever, AFAIK. If size turns out to be a problem, we could choose to keep only LTS releases on ftp.gnu.org, for instance. That=E2=80=99s something to discuss with the GNU sysadmins. Thanks for your feedback! Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 19 11:40:52 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2013 15:40:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37665 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0Cnb-000539-7K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:40:51 -0400 Received: from linux-libre.fsfla.org ([208.118.235.54]:48273) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V08Yt-0006Yu-C7 for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:09:24 -0400 Received: from freie (home.lxoliva.fsfla.org [172.31.160.22]) by linux-libre.fsfla.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id r6JB9L9f029838; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:09:22 GMT Received: from livre.home (livre.home [172.31.160.2]) by freie (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6JB8hJn011960; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:08:44 -0300 From: Alexandre Oliva To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared Organization: Free thinker, not speaking for FSF Latin America References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:08:43 -0300 In-Reply-To: <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:30:02 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:40:49 -0400 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Enge X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) On Jul 12, 2013, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) wrote: > Since we=E2=80=99re about to release a new version of Guix, I=E2=80=99d r= ather keep > using 3.3.8. > Alexandre: could you reinstate the original > http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/3.3.8-gnu/linux-lib= re-3.3.8-gnu.tar.xz? I suppose you don't want to prevent users of guix from using ath9k wifi cards, so I strongly suggest switching to 3.3.8-gnu1. Indeed, I think you'd be better off with some LTS version of GNU Linux-libre, rather than the dead 3.3 branch. But that's your call. > It would be ideal if the tarballs were on ftp.gnu.org. I could do it if > you don=E2=80=99t want to bother, provided the FTP admins allow it. WDYT? I'd be glad with such an arrangement. I keep on failing to figure out how to fit the weekly publishing of multiple releases into a workflow that includes collecting information and sending it to ftp.gnu.org without keeping another local copy of stuff that was published before. That's one of the hold-up factors for me. As for the tarballs, they're all signed, so figuring out a way to upload just the bits created since the last push, and pushing them to live, is what's missing. Now, another possibility that I think would make more sense for guix is to have its sources consolidated in a single place, rather than scattered all over and at risk of having them pulled from under you. At the very least, you ought to keep a copy of sources you use to build binaries you publish, so that you can satisfy your obligation to offer the corresponding source, be it a legal (copyleft) or moral (software in gnu ought to be free) obligation. When we get GNU Linux-libre at ftp.gnu.org, it could then be hard links, so that if we remove some tarball it won't go away from your =E2=80=9Ccopy= =E2=80=9D, but until then, you might be better off holding your own copy rather than assuming our primary repository has infinite space. Unfortunately it doesn't, and I have to clean things up quite often. For sources, I at least keep enough bits around that the tarballs can be reconstructed in a bit-exact fashion, but for binaries, when they're gone, they're gone forever. However, considering we put out multiple GBs of builds per week, I don't think it's realistic to keep them all forever. Not in our own server, not at ftp.gnu.org. --=20 Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/ You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 19 12:52:03 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2013 16:52:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0DuV-0008EK-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:52:03 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:55526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0DuS-0008De-TV for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:52:01 -0400 Received: from debian.localnet (gw3.infra.univ-bordeaux.fr [147.210.245.180]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LZpVp-1UGwSL0nOP-00lldz; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:51:52 +0200 From: Andreas Enge To: Alexandre Oliva Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:51:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.2.0-4-amd64; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201307191851.47553.andreas@enge.fr> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:jIIjWoy3ie8ASO5+STVgF54Ap9IJspstywMiVhYOhVC qTqrq8GBwb5k73tN+LCK/pjoKetxq5xA26q5JL3Ko38/FM7TbY urZr/ap7CahgkrB8YuFG0a0DdHITjcpAZRGTgPH69eIk1MxGQh o2jUivkz2cWkOvyP9FIeYifErLXgjtK7+z/9lCDJ4lZIwQdW3W VlOihCyhwbt/Kg+W1vNiPAw0pVu8Q3DzmkI3liFweYhMHEe/sQ qKV+Qb7G5G+n7fRGOT6KZEbrt++KbRtjstjDi825VWvGgbnQJJ hNvdh6vhGRTBla1MXhyX3+kDKB9A4M6/skRxfH1BJlcH7ZoUor UGFP9tfYHGYvKt1BWSwI= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?q?Court=C3=A8s?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013 schrieb Alexandre Oliva: > However, considering we put out multiple GBs of builds per > week, I don't think it's realistic to keep them all forever. Not in our > own server, not at ftp.gnu.org. As far as I know, ftp.gnu.org would only be concerned with the source, that is, the content of http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/ and not with binary packages in upper level directories, and these source tarballs are usually kept indefinitely. One also need not add the patch and diff files, so that the amount of storage would be quite manageable. Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 19 15:41:28 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2013 19:41:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0GYS-000641-BS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:41:28 -0400 Received: from linux-libre.fsfla.org ([208.118.235.54]:44816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0GYP-00063o-5C for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:41:26 -0400 Received: from freie (home.lxoliva.fsfla.org [172.31.160.22]) by linux-libre.fsfla.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2) with ESMTP id r6JJfNol002150; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:41:24 GMT Received: from livre.home (livre.home [172.31.160.2]) by freie (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6JJeTR6007024; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:40:30 -0300 From: Alexandre Oliva To: Andreas Enge Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared Organization: Free thinker, not speaking for FSF Latin America References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> <201307191851.47553.andreas@enge.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:40:28 -0300 In-Reply-To: <201307191851.47553.andreas@enge.fr> (Andreas Enge's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:51:47 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) On Jul 19, 2013, Andreas Enge wrote: > Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013 schrieb Alexandre Oliva: >> However, considering we put out multiple GBs of builds per >> week, I don't think it's realistic to keep them all forever. Not in our >> own server, not at ftp.gnu.org. > As far as I know, ftp.gnu.org would only be concerned with the source, I don't know about that. I've seen binaries in ftp.gnu.org in the past. This should indeed reduce significantly the space requirements to a bit less than 1GB per week, considering 4 releases per week in 3 different compression formats. OTOH, if we're to be strict, we should publish only the deblob scripts, for those are the ultimate sources produced by the GNU Linux-libre project. The tarballs and diffs and deltas are just the result of running those scripts on tarballs produced by third parties. The scripts would be trivial to retain indefinitely; even more so because they seldom change for stable releases. > and these source tarballs are usually kept indefinitely. > One also need not add the patch and diff files, so that the amount of > storage would be quite manageable. The diff files are probably no big deal (10% increase, not an order of magnitude like the build tarballs and debuginfo rpms). Excluding them would probably make for more work in the upload script, though. -- Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/ You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 19 15:51:17 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2013 19:51:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0Ghw-0006SK-L6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:51:17 -0400 Received: from linux-libre.fsfla.org ([208.118.235.54]:44827) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0Ght-0006S1-JG for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:51:14 -0400 Received: from freie (home.lxoliva.fsfla.org [172.31.160.22]) by linux-libre.fsfla.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2) with ESMTP id r6JJpBpq002176; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:51:12 GMT Received: from livre.home (livre.home [172.31.160.2]) by freie (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6JJoQTQ009732; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:50:28 -0300 From: Alexandre Oliva To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared Organization: Free thinker, not speaking for FSF Latin America References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> <8761w6hhtq.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:50:23 -0300 In-Reply-To: <8761w6hhtq.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:09:37 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Enge X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) On Jul 19, 2013, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) wrote: > What do you mean by =E2=80=9Cmultiple GBs of builds per week=E2=80=9D? L= inux{,-Libre} > releases are not that frequent, are they? They are. ATM there are 4 active stable releases that each get one new release per week. There are 3 other LTS stable branches that get releases less often. And then, there are the weekly development -rcs for the next release, that I seldom start tracking long before the release is out. This is just for sources, and it adds up to almost 1GB per week. Adding binaries to the picture grows the entire size by a little bit when it comes to the freesh and planet .debs, and to a larger extent when it comes to gnewsense/yeeloong (that gets one build per source release we put out, with a total deb+tar size about the same size of the source release subdir), and the freed-ora builds (that involve 1-4 rpm builds per active Fedora release per week, each one weighting some 2GB total; for most of the time there are 2 or 3 active releases; sometimes there are 4, depending on whether or not I've already cleaned up the -rc series for the upcoming release that gets built for the rawhide tree). > If size turns out to be a problem, we could choose to keep only LTS > releases on ftp.gnu.org, for instance. Keeping only LTS wouldn't help guix, though, since you're not using an LTS release. --=20 Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/ You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 19 16:30:56 2013 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2013 20:30:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0HKK-00086p-FA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:30:56 -0400 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:35844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0HKI-00086P-50 for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:30:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C14DF4; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:30:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5J77dFoI6KW2; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:30:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01EBE973; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:30:50 +0200 (CEST) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Alexandre Oliva Subject: Re: bug#14851: linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> <87zjtrfm39.fsf@gnu.org> <8761w6hhtq.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 1 Thermidor an 221 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:30:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Alexandre Oliva's message of "Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:50:23 -0300") Message-ID: <8761w6uwat.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130007 (Ma Gnus v0.7) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 Cc: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Enge X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Alexandre Oliva skribis: > On Jul 19, 2013, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) wrote: > >> What do you mean by =E2=80=9Cmultiple GBs of builds per week=E2=80=9D? = Linux{,-Libre} >> releases are not that frequent, are they? > > They are. ATM there are 4 active stable releases that each get one new > release per week. There are 3 other LTS stable branches that get > releases less often. And then, there are the weekly development -rcs > for the next release, that I seldom start tracking long before the > release is out. This is just for sources, and it adds up to almost 1GB > per week. Ah OK, I wasn=E2=80=99t aware of that. > Adding binaries to the picture grows the entire size by a little bit Yes, but binaries is not what we=E2=80=99re interested in here. :-) >> If size turns out to be a problem, we could choose to keep only LTS >> releases on ftp.gnu.org, for instance. > > Keeping only LTS wouldn't help guix, though, since you're not using an > LTS release. Heh but that=E2=80=99s not set in stone, and we don=E2=80=99t use Linux-Lib= re for anything beyond building libc. That=E2=80=99ll change in the near future though. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 03 06:53:30 2017 Received: (at 14851) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2017 10:53:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cuzc1-0002ZE-U3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 06:53:30 -0400 Received: from latitanza.investici.org ([82.94.249.234]:23986) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cuzbz-0002Z5-P1 for 14851@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2017 06:53:28 -0400 Received: from [82.94.249.234] (latitanza [82.94.249.234]) (Authenticated sender: niasterisk@grrlz.net) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 286E3121AD1 for <14851@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:53:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cryptolab.net; s=stigmate; t=1491216806; bh=x8cwVybaHl2aISKqB2wtD+kWwxjZVnkOsRtgyGEY6PA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=m2TuXAbXjTp6dMFDkF44rB46iyv1Zv6l74Qp0DxKreJQFNnXsmKgDoyAkBCLK28vN EkEP+0O+ZZO7sWpyMoEsXxRSJlVs7uPfbYTejg4t+L7huu0dc+kSDwayO0zmbuIJNk 6oZZ8842+6hq4pS7lQ7Kl6GRp2X6FGVvmpVKz00k= Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:53:23 +0000 From: ng0 To: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: #14851 - linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared Message-ID: <20170403105323.qorgkh3kdfg37vqo@abyayala> Mail-Followup-To: 14851@debbugs.gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Andreas, Ludovic, and others: This bug report was last modified 3 years and 258 days ago. It is my understanding that this bug could be closed. I see no more current problems and it makes no sense to keep the bug open just in case the problem appears again. Would you agree? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 05 14:56:57 2017 Received: (at 14851-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2017 18:56:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6iPQ-0004Px-54 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 14:56:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41648) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d6iPO-0004Pl-3h for 14851-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 14:56:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6iPG-000742-0D for 14851-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 14:56:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d6iPF-00073y-TN for 14851-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 14:56:45 -0400 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:40660 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1d6iPF-00042Z-A3 for 14851-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2017 14:56:45 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: 14851-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14851: #14851 - linux-libre-3.3.8-gnu disappeared References: <201307121302.05303.andreas@enge.fr> <20170403105323.qorgkh3kdfg37vqo@abyayala> Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 20:56:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170403105323.qorgkh3kdfg37vqo@abyayala> (ng0's message of "Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:53:23 +0000") Message-ID: <87y3ub16ac.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14851-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) ng0 skribis: > Andreas, Ludovic, and others: > > This bug report was last modified 3 years and 258 days ago. > > It is my understanding that this bug could be closed. I see no more > current problems and it makes no sense to keep the bug open just in case > the problem appears again. > > Would you agree? I do! Especially with the content-addressed mirror we=E2=80=99ve been host= ing with =E2=80=98guix publish=E2=80=99. Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Sat Aug 16 22:47:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2017 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator