From unknown Sat Aug 16 15:59:15 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1485: 23.0.60; Elisp manual node Pointer Shape Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 1485@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1485 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122832432619012 (code B ref -1); Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:20:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Dec 2008 17:12:06 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB3HC3fh019001 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:12:04 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:50347 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1L7vGB-0000JJ-Sq for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:11:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L7vGb-0004XX-Rv for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:12:02 -0500 Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:30655) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L7vGb-0004X5-CL for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:12:01 -0500 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mB3HCnGU016462 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:12:51 GMT Received: from acsmt700.oracle.com (acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mB3HC0sp001839 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:12:03 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:11:52 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:11:53 -0800 Message-ID: <001601c9556a$3d1e2590$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclVajzNM9BBBvDHRrW5uihoAZQCag== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010205.4936BDDC.00AB:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) The node says this about the available pointer shapes: Use `M-x apropos x-pointer ' to see a list of them. But in MS Windows, M-x apropos x-pointer shows only this: x-pointer-shape : The shape of the pointer when over text.

: variable-documentation Nevertheless, I can see various different pointer shapes in Emacs on Windows. Isn't there a bug here somewhere (doc, program)? In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-11-24 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From unknown Sat Aug 16 15:59:15 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: "Drew Adams" Subject: bug#1485 closed by Jason Rumney (23.0.60; Elisp manual node Pointer Shape) Message-ID: References: <4965FD4C.6000502@gnu.org> <001601c9556a$3d1e2590$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 1485 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,w32 Reply-To: 1485@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:25:04 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1231421104-3489-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1231421104-3489-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs,w32 package: #1485: 23.0.60; Elisp manual node Pointer Shape It has been closed by Jason Rumney . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Jason Rumney by replying to this email. --=20 1485: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D1485 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1231421104-3489-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 1485-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Jan 2009 13:19:43 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([124.13.5.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm1276362tid.16.2009.01.08.05.19.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:19:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <4965FD4C.6000502@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:19:08 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Adams CC: 1485-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: 23.0.60; Elisp manual node Pointer Shape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have changed the text in the Elisp manual to clarify that the x-pointer-* variables only apply to X, and have removed the definition of x-pointer-shape from w32fns.c so it won't confusingly show up in apropos even though it does nothing on Windows. ------------=_1231421104-3489-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From drew.adams@oracle.com Wed Dec 3 09:12:06 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Dec 2008 17:12:06 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mB3HC3fh019001 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:12:04 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:50347 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1L7vGB-0000JJ-Sq for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:11:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L7vGb-0004XX-Rv for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:12:02 -0500 Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:30655) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L7vGb-0004X5-CL for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:12:01 -0500 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mB3HCnGU016462 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:12:51 GMT Received: from acsmt700.oracle.com (acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mB3HC0sp001839 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:12:03 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:11:52 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 23.0.60; Elisp manual node Pointer Shape Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:11:53 -0800 Message-ID: <001601c9556a$3d1e2590$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclVajzNM9BBBvDHRrW5uihoAZQCag== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt700.oracle.com [141.146.40.70] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010205.4936BDDC.00AB:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) The node says this about the available pointer shapes: Use `M-x apropos x-pointer ' to see a list of them. But in MS Windows, M-x apropos x-pointer shows only this: x-pointer-shape : The shape of the pointer when over text.

: variable-documentation Nevertheless, I can see various different pointer shapes in Emacs on Windows. Isn't there a bug here somewhere (doc, program)? In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-11-24 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' ------------=_1231421104-3489-1--