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24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer

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Reported by: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>

Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 12:08:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: notabug

Found in version 24.3.50

Done: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>

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From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:02:16 +0200

Emacs -Q

Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.

 Börse, which should read Börse


coding-system-for-write nil
and
coding-system-for-read nil

In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
 of 2013-06-12

Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11203000
System Description:	openSUSE 12.2 (i586)

Configured using:
 `configure CFLAGS='-g -O''

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Help

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar>
<options> <menu-set-font> <help-echo> C-x d i m <tab>
<return> <return> C-s r s e C-s <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <drag-mouse-1>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement>
<mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> C-x 2 C-h f b u f f
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> c o
d i n g - s y s t <tab> f o <tab> <M-backspace> <M-backspace>
<M-backspace> C-a C-k C-g C-h v C-y f o <tab> r e <tab>
<return> C-x o C-x 2 C-h v <up> C-e <M-backspace> w
r i <tab> <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1>
<help-echo> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo>
<down-mouse-1> <help-echo> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement>
<help-echo> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo> M-x r e p o
r t _ <backspace> - <tab> <return>

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From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14805: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:25:28 +0200

Am 06.07.2013 14:02, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
> Emacs -Q
>
> Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.
>
>   Börse, which should read Börse
>
>
> coding-system-for-write nil
> and
> coding-system-for-read nil
>
> In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
>   of 2013-06-12
>
> Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11203000
> System Description:    openSUSE 12.2 (i586)
>
> Configured using:
>   `configure CFLAGS='-g -O''
>
> Important settings:
>    value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
>    value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local
>    locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
>    default enable-multibyte-characters: t
>
> Major mode: Help
>
> Minor modes in effect:
>    tooltip-mode: t
>    mouse-wheel-mode: t
>    tool-bar-mode: t
>    menu-bar-mode: t
>    file-name-shadow-mode: t
>    global-font-lock-mode: t
>    font-lock-mode: t
>    blink-cursor-mode: t
>    auto-composition-mode: t
>    auto-encryption-mode: t
>    auto-compression-mode: t
>    buffer-read-only: t
>    line-number-mode: t
>    transient-mark-mode: t
>
> Recent input:
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar>
> <options> <menu-set-font> <help-echo> C-x d i m <tab>
> <return> <return> C-s r s e C-s <help-echo> <help-echo>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <drag-mouse-1>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement>
> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> C-x 2 C-h f b u f f
> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> c o
> d i n g - s y s t <tab> f o <tab> <M-backspace> <M-backspace>
> <M-backspace> C-a C-k C-g C-h v C-y f o <tab> r e <tab>
> <return> C-x o C-x 2 C-h v <up> C-e <M-backspace> w
> r i <tab> <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1>
> <help-echo> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo>
> <down-mouse-1> <help-echo> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement>
> <help-echo> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo> M-x r e p o
> r t _ <backspace> - <tab> <return>
>
> Recent messages:
> For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
> Mark saved where search started
> Quit
> Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer, C-M-v to scroll help.
>
>
> Load-path shadows:
> None found.
>
> Features:
> (shadow sort nadvice gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec
> rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
> mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
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> make-network-process inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
> font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)
>
>
>
>

File contains

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#14805; Package emacs. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 12:29:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14805: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:29:29 +0200

Am 06.07.2013 14:02, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
> Emacs -Q
>
> Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.
>
>   Börse, which should read Börse
>
>
> coding-system-for-write nil
> and
> coding-system-for-read nil
>
> In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
>   of 2013-06-12
>
> Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11203000
> System Description:    openSUSE 12.2 (i586)
>
> Configured using:
>   `configure CFLAGS='-g -O''
>
> Important settings:
>    value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
>    value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local
>    locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
>    default enable-multibyte-characters: t
>
> Major mode: Help
>
> Minor modes in effect:
>    tooltip-mode: t
>    mouse-wheel-mode: t
>    tool-bar-mode: t
>    menu-bar-mode: t
>    file-name-shadow-mode: t
>    global-font-lock-mode: t
>    font-lock-mode: t
>    blink-cursor-mode: t
>    auto-composition-mode: t
>    auto-encryption-mode: t
>    auto-compression-mode: t
>    buffer-read-only: t
>    line-number-mode: t
>    transient-mark-mode: t
>
> Recent input:
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar>
> <options> <menu-set-font> <help-echo> C-x d i m <tab>
> <return> <return> C-s r s e C-s <help-echo> <help-echo>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <drag-mouse-1>
> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement>
> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> C-x 2 C-h f b u f f
> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> c o
> d i n g - s y s t <tab> f o <tab> <M-backspace> <M-backspace>
> <M-backspace> C-a C-k C-g C-h v C-y f o <tab> r e <tab>
> <return> C-x o C-x 2 C-h v <up> C-e <M-backspace> w
> r i <tab> <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1>
> <help-echo> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo>
> <down-mouse-1> <help-echo> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement>
> <help-echo> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo> M-x r e p o
> r t _ <backspace> - <tab> <return>
>
> Recent messages:
> For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
> Mark saved where search started
> Quit
> Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer, C-M-v to scroll help.
>
>
> Load-path shadows:
> None found.
>
> Features:
> (shadow sort nadvice gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec
> rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
> mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
> mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils help-mode easymenu help-fns misearch
> multi-isearch sgml-mode dired time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks
> lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt
> fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar
> rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax
> facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese
> tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak
> czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook
> jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces
> cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format
> env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote
> make-network-process inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
> font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)
>
>
>
>

Here the message still when trying to save from buffer text was pasted in:

These default coding systems were tried to encode text
in the buffer `ein-2.html':
  (iso-latin-1-unix (62516 . 8211) (62535 . 8364))
However, each of them encountered characters it couldn't encode:
  iso-latin-1-unix cannot encode these: – €
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bug#14805; Package emacs. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 12:52:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #14 received at 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
Cc: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14805: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 15:50:50 +0300

> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:25:28 +0200
> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
> 
> Am 06.07.2013 14:02, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
> > Emacs -Q
> >
> > Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.
> >
> >   Börse, which should read Börse
> >
> 
> File contains
> 
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />

So the file says it's in latin-1, but the actual contents are in
UTF-8, is that right?

Anyway, can you try with the latest trunk?  June 12 is almost a month
ago.
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bug#14805; Package emacs. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:58:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #17 received at 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14805: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:58:53 +0200

Am 06.07.2013 14:50, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:25:28 +0200
>> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
>>
>> Am 06.07.2013 14:02, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
>>> Emacs -Q
>>>
>>> Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.
>>>
>>>    Börse, which should read Börse
>>>
>>
>> File contains
>>
>> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
>
> So the file says it's in latin-1, but the actual contents are in
> UTF-8, is that right?
>
> Anyway, can you try with the latest trunk?  June 12 is almost a month
> ago.
>

Same with Emacs built from trunk today.
Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#14805; Package emacs. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:13:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #20 received at 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
Cc: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14805: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:12:44 +0300

> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:58:53 +0200
> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
> CC: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Am 06.07.2013 14:50, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
> >> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:25:28 +0200
> >> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
> >>
> >> Am 06.07.2013 14:02, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
> >>> Emacs -Q
> >>>
> >>> Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.
> >>>
> >>>    Börse, which should read Börse
> >>>
> >>
> >> File contains
> >>
> >> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
> >
> > So the file says it's in latin-1, but the actual contents are in
> > UTF-8, is that right?
> >
> > Anyway, can you try with the latest trunk?  June 12 is almost a month
> > ago.
> >
> 
> Same with Emacs built from trunk today.

Then please post the minimal file that exhibits the problem.

Thanks.
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bug#14805; Package emacs. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:16:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #23 received at 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de
Cc: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14805: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:15:08 +0300

> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:12:44 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:58:53 +0200
> > From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
> > CC: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > Am 06.07.2013 14:50, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
> > >> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:25:28 +0200
> > >> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
> > >>
> > >> Am 06.07.2013 14:02, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
> > >>> Emacs -Q
> > >>>
> > >>> Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.
> > >>>
> > >>>    Börse, which should read Börse
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> File contains
> > >>
> > >> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
> > >
> > > So the file says it's in latin-1, but the actual contents are in
> > > UTF-8, is that right?
> > >
> > > Anyway, can you try with the latest trunk?  June 12 is almost a month
> > > ago.
> > >
> > 
> > Same with Emacs built from trunk today.
> 
> Then please post the minimal file that exhibits the problem.

Actually, never mind, I see this myself.

So what would you expect Emacs to do with a file that claims to be in
Latin-1, but isn't?
Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#14805; Package emacs. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:28:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #26 received at 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14805: 24.3.50; german umlauts error in sgml/html buffer
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 21:28:57 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Am 06.07.2013 21:15, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:12:44 +0300
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
>> Cc: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:58:53 +0200
>>> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
>>> CC: 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>>
>>> Am 06.07.2013 14:50, schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
>>>>> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:25:28 +0200
>>>>> From: Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 06.07.2013 14:02, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
>>>>>> Emacs -Q
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Opened a buffer with ending ".htm". German umlauts are mangled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Börse, which should read Börse
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> File contains
>>>>>
>>>>> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
>>>>
>>>> So the file says it's in latin-1, but the actual contents are in
>>>> UTF-8, is that right?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, can you try with the latest trunk?  June 12 is almost a month
>>>> ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Same with Emacs built from trunk today.
>>
>> Then please post the minimal file that exhibits the problem.
>
> Actually, never mind, I see this myself.
>
> So what would you expect Emacs to do with a file that claims to be in
> Latin-1, but isn't?
>

Hmm, seems not a bug on Emacs side.
A part of the file attached anyway.

[ein.htm (text/html, attachment)]
Added tag(s) notabug. Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:18:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
bug closed, send any further explanations to 14805 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler <at> easy-emacs.de> Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:18:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:24:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
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