From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:36:39 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14804 <14804@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14804 <14804@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent Reply-To: bug#14804 <14804@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 06:36:39 +0000 retitle 14804 Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent reassign 14804 emacs submitter 14804 Paul Eggert severity 14804 minor tag 14804 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 06 05:41:52 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 09:41:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33724 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvP03-0003V5-3q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 05:41:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52485) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvP00-0003Um-1V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 05:41:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvOzt-0001CD-6e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 05:41:42 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37229) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvOzt-0001C9-3s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 05:41:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54199) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvOzq-0006zs-Ry for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 05:41:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvOzp-0001B6-0G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 05:41:38 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:46177) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvOzo-0001Al-KO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 05:41:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9C9A60016; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 02:41:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ZybwTjhYjg1; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 02:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-108-49-126.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.108.49.126]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81FBDA60001; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 02:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 02:41:34 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Tags: patch Recently Gnus added the 'unexist' flag with some code that deals with 'unexistent' articles. If I understand the concept correctly, the usual spelling in English is 'nonexistent'. Here's a proposed patch to use that spelling. === modified file 'lisp/gnus/ChangeLog' --- lisp/gnus/ChangeLog 2013-07-03 04:15:38 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/ChangeLog 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,19 @@ +2013-07-06 Paul Eggert + + Spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent + * gnus-group.el (gnus-group-expire-articles-1): + * gnus-start.el (gnus-clean-old-newsrc): + * gnus-sum.el (gnus-articles-to-read, gnus-adjust-marked-articles) + (gnus-update-marks, gnus-summary-expire-articles) + (gnus-summary-insert-old-articles): + * gnus.el (gnus-article-mark-lists, gnus-article-special-mark-lists) + (gnus-article-unpropagated-mark-lists): + * nnimap.el (nnimap-retrieve-group-data-early, nnimap-update-info) + (nnimap-update-qresync-info): + Use 'nonexistent', not 'unexist', to for marks of nonexistent articles. + * gnus-sum.el (gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent): + Rename from gnus-newsgroup-unexist. All uses changed. + 2013-07-03 Katsumi Yamaoka * gnus-sum.el (gnus-summary-from-or-to-or-newsgroups): === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -3657,7 +3657,7 @@ (articles-to-expire (gnus-list-range-difference (gnus-uncompress-sequence (cdr expirable)) - (cdr (assq 'unexist (gnus-info-marks info))))) + (cdr (assq 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks info))))) (expiry-wait (gnus-group-find-parameter group 'expiry-wait)) (nnmail-expiry-target (or (gnus-group-find-parameter group 'expiry-target) === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -2307,7 +2307,7 @@ (defun gnus-clean-old-newsrc (&optional force) (when gnus-newsrc-file-version ;; Remove totally bogus `unexists' entries. The name is - ;; `unexist'. + ;; `nonexistent'. (dolist (info (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) (let ((exist (assoc 'unexists (gnus-info-marks info)))) (when exist @@ -2318,7 +2318,7 @@ (gnus-continuum-version "Ma Gnus v0.03"))) ;; Remove old `exist' marks from old nnimap groups. (dolist (info (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) - (let ((exist (assoc 'unexist (gnus-info-marks info)))) + (let ((exist (assoc 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks info)))) (when exist (gnus-info-set-marks info (delete exist (gnus-info-marks info))))))))) === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el 2013-07-03 04:15:38 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -1524,8 +1524,8 @@ (defvar gnus-newsgroup-seen nil "Range of seen articles in the current newsgroup.") -(defvar gnus-newsgroup-unexist nil - "Range of unexistent articles in the current newsgroup.") +(defvar gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent nil + "Range of nonexistent articles in the current newsgroup.") (defvar gnus-newsgroup-articles nil "List of articles in the current newsgroup.") @@ -1574,7 +1574,7 @@ gnus-newsgroup-killed gnus-newsgroup-unseen gnus-newsgroup-seen - gnus-newsgroup-unexist + gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent gnus-newsgroup-cached gnus-newsgroup-downloadable gnus-newsgroup-undownloaded @@ -5822,7 +5822,7 @@ (gnus-sorted-nunion (gnus-sorted-union gnus-newsgroup-dormant gnus-newsgroup-marked) gnus-newsgroup-unreads)) - (cdr (assq 'unexist (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info group)))))) + (cdr (assq 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info group)))))) (scored-list (gnus-killed-articles gnus-newsgroup-killed articles)) (scored (length scored-list)) (number (length articles)) @@ -5993,7 +5993,7 @@ (> min (car articles))))) (pop articles)) (set var articles)) - ((eq mark 'unexist) + ((eq mark 'nonexistent) (set var (cdr marks))))))))) (defun gnus-update-missing-marks (missing) @@ -6071,7 +6071,7 @@ (push (list del 'del (list (cdr type))) delta-marks)))) (when (or list - (eq (cdr type) 'unexist)) + (eq (cdr type) 'nonexistent)) (push (cons (cdr type) list) newmarked))) (when delta-marks @@ -10327,7 +10327,7 @@ (gnus-list-of-read-articles gnus-newsgroup-name)) (setq gnus-newsgroup-expirable (sort gnus-newsgroup-expirable '<))) - gnus-newsgroup-unexist)) + gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent)) (expiry-wait (if now 'immediate (gnus-group-find-parameter gnus-newsgroup-name 'expiry-wait))) @@ -12862,7 +12862,7 @@ ;; Use a compressed range to avoid creating a huge list. (gnus-range-difference (gnus-range-difference (list gnus-newsgroup-active) old) - gnus-newsgroup-unexist)) + gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent)) (setq len (gnus-range-length older)) (cond ((null older) nil) === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -2636,11 +2636,11 @@ (scored . score) (saved . save) (cached . cache) (downloadable . download) (unsendable . unsend) (forwarded . forward) - (seen . seen) (unexist . unexist))) + (seen . seen) (nonexistent . nonexistent))) (defconst gnus-article-special-mark-lists '((seen range) - (unexist range) + (nonexistent range) (killed range) (bookmark tuple) (uid tuple) @@ -2655,7 +2655,7 @@ ;; `score' is not a proper mark ;; `bookmark': don't propagated it, or fix the bug in update-mark. (defconst gnus-article-unpropagated-mark-lists - '(seen cache download unsend score bookmark unexist) + '(seen cache download unsend score bookmark nonexistent) "Marks that shouldn't be propagated to back ends. Typical marks are those that make no sense in a standalone back end, such as a mark that says whether an article is stored in the cache === modified file 'lisp/gnus/nnimap.el' --- lisp/gnus/nnimap.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/nnimap.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -1288,7 +1288,7 @@ (setf (nnimap-initial-resync nnimap-object) 0) (let ((qresyncp (nnimap-capability "QRESYNC")) params groups sequences active uidvalidity modseq group - unexist) + nonexistent) ;; Go through the infos and gather the data needed to know ;; what and how to request the data. (dolist (info infos) @@ -1296,7 +1296,7 @@ group (nnimap-decode-gnus-group (gnus-group-real-name (gnus-info-group info))) active (cdr (assq 'active params)) - unexist (assq 'unexist (gnus-info-marks info)) + nonexistent (assq 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks info)) uidvalidity (cdr (assq 'uidvalidity params)) modseq (cdr (assq 'modseq params))) (setf (nnimap-examined nnimap-object) group) @@ -1304,7 +1304,7 @@ uidvalidity active modseq - unexist) + nonexistent) (push (list (nnimap-send-command "EXAMINE %S (%s (%s %s))" (utf7-encode group t) @@ -1323,7 +1323,7 @@ ;; is read-only or not. "SELECT")) start) - (if (and active uidvalidity unexist) + (if (and active uidvalidity nonexistent) ;; Fetch the last 100 flags. (setq start (max 1 (- (cdr active) 100))) (incf (nnimap-initial-resync nnimap-object)) @@ -1506,24 +1506,24 @@ (when new-marks (push (cons (car type) new-marks) marks))))) ;; Keep track of non-existing articles. - (let* ((old-unexists (assq 'unexist marks)) + (let* ((old-nonexistent (assq 'nonexistent marks)) (active (gnus-active group)) - (unexists + (nonexistent (if completep (gnus-range-difference active (gnus-compress-sequence existing)) (gnus-add-to-range - (cdr old-unexists) + (cdr old-nonexistent) (gnus-list-range-difference existing (gnus-active group)))))) (when (> (car active) 1) - (setq unexists (gnus-range-add - (cons 1 (1- (car active))) - unexists))) - (if old-unexists - (setcdr old-unexists unexists) - (push (cons 'unexist unexists) marks))) + (setq nonexistent (gnus-range-add + (cons 1 (1- (car active))) + nonexistent))) + (if old-nonexistent + (setcdr old-nonexistent nonexistent) + (push (cons 'nonexistent nonexistent) marks))) (gnus-info-set-marks info marks t)))) ;; Tell Gnus whether there are any \Recent messages in any of ;; the groups. @@ -1568,13 +1568,13 @@ (when ticks (push (cons (car type) ticks) marks))) (gnus-info-set-marks info marks t)) - ;; Add vanished to the list of unexisting articles. + ;; Add vanished to the list of nonexistent articles. (when vanished - (let* ((old-unexists (assq 'unexist marks)) - (unexists (gnus-range-add (cdr old-unexists) vanished))) - (if old-unexists - (setcdr old-unexists unexists) - (push (cons 'unexist unexists) marks))) + (let* ((old-nonexistent (assq 'nonexistent marks)) + (nonexistent (gnus-range-add (cdr old-nonexistent) vanished))) + (if old-nonexistent + (setcdr old-nonexistent nonexistent) + (push (cons 'nonexistent nonexistent) marks))) (gnus-info-set-marks info marks t)))) (defun nnimap-imap-ranges-to-gnus-ranges (irange) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 06 11:37:22 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 15:37:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34726 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUY6-0003Sz-BD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:37:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUY4-0003Sg-Pb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:37:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUXx-0005F3-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:37:15 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57861) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUXx-0005Ey-1y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:37:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40127) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUXu-0006RV-Bf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:37:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUXr-0005Dj-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:37:10 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUXr-0005Dc-G1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 11:37:07 -0400 Received: from 46.157.223.218.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.157.223.218] helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UvUXc-0001ta-0h; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 17:36:52 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 17:36:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sat, 06 Jul 2013 02:41:34 -0700") Message-ID: <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1UvUXc-0001ta-0h X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1373729816.10033@01ZGJh3mMamLpdKIyrLYjw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Paul Eggert writes: > Recently Gnus added the 'unexist' flag with some > code that deals with 'unexistent' articles. If I > understand the concept correctly, the usual > spelling in English is 'nonexistent'. Here's a > proposed patch to use that spelling. Well, it's probably "non-existent" or "unexisting". However, I don't really see much point in changing the spelling of a mark used internally in Gnus stored-state files. And `unexist' has been in use for a couple of years, so this would break people's Gnus files. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 06 18:17:48 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 22:17:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uvanb-00080U-8v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:17:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvanY-000805-Hm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:17:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvanR-0006PL-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:17:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvanR-0006PH-N2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:17:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58741) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvanP-0001Zo-U8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:17:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvanO-0006Op-6s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:17:35 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:38292) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvanN-0006OT-SB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:17:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EF1A60047; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:17:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qAPpB9oxRlnO; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-108-49-126.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.108.49.126]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A918A60001; Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 15:17:31 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) On 07/06/2013 08:36 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > `unexist' has been in use for a couple of years, so this would break > people's Gnus files. Sorry, I thought 'unexist' was a more recent edition. In that case, how about if gnus-clean-old-newsrc automatically updates the old Gnus files from 'unexist' to 'nonexistent'? The code already does that for the old bad seplling 'unexists', so there's precedent for fixing spelling in this area. > it's probably "non-existent" or "unexisting". Those are both English words, but "unexisting" is rare nowadays (almost obsolete), and "unexist" itself is not English. The GNU Emacs trunk uses "nonexistent" in about 240 places, "non-existent" in about 120 places (this is more the British style, but whatever), and "unexisting" in zero places until the recent addition. There is some advantage to sticking with the more-common usage. Revised patch follows. === modified file 'lisp/gnus/ChangeLog' --- lisp/gnus/ChangeLog 2013-07-06 12:49:38 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/ChangeLog 2013-07-06 22:07:33 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,21 @@ +2013-07-06 Paul Eggert + + Spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent (Bug#14804). + * gnus-group.el (gnus-group-expire-articles-1): + * gnus-start.el (gnus-clean-old-newsrc): + * gnus-sum.el (gnus-articles-to-read, gnus-adjust-marked-articles) + (gnus-update-marks, gnus-summary-expire-articles) + (gnus-summary-insert-old-articles): + * gnus.el (gnus-article-mark-lists, gnus-article-special-mark-lists) + (gnus-article-unpropagated-mark-lists): + * nnimap.el (nnimap-retrieve-group-data-early, nnimap-update-info) + (nnimap-update-qresync-info): + Use 'nonexistent', not 'unexist', to for marks of nonexistent articles. + * gnus-start.el (gnus-clean-old-newsrc): Migrate old-spelling + 'unexist' marks to the new spelling 'nonexistent'. + * gnus-sum.el (gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent): + Rename from gnus-newsgroup-unexist. All uses changed. + 2013-07-05 David Kastrup * auth-source.el (auth-source-netrc-parse-one): Allow empty strings in === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus-group.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -3657,7 +3657,7 @@ (articles-to-expire (gnus-list-range-difference (gnus-uncompress-sequence (cdr expirable)) - (cdr (assq 'unexist (gnus-info-marks info))))) + (cdr (assq 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks info))))) (expiry-wait (gnus-group-find-parameter group 'expiry-wait)) (nnmail-expiry-target (or (gnus-group-find-parameter group 'expiry-target) === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el 2013-07-06 22:07:33 +0000 @@ -2306,10 +2306,11 @@ (defun gnus-clean-old-newsrc (&optional force) (when gnus-newsrc-file-version - ;; Remove totally bogus `unexists' entries. The name is - ;; `unexist'. + ;; Remove totally bogus `unexist' and `unexists' entries. The name is + ;; `nonexistent'. (dolist (info (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) - (let ((exist (assoc 'unexists (gnus-info-marks info)))) + (let ((exist (or (assoc 'unexist (gnus-info-marks info)) + (assoc 'unexists (gnus-info-marks info))))) (when exist (gnus-info-set-marks info (delete exist (gnus-info-marks info)))))) @@ -2318,7 +2319,7 @@ (gnus-continuum-version "Ma Gnus v0.03"))) ;; Remove old `exist' marks from old nnimap groups. (dolist (info (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) - (let ((exist (assoc 'unexist (gnus-info-marks info)))) + (let ((exist (assoc 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks info)))) (when exist (gnus-info-set-marks info (delete exist (gnus-info-marks info))))))))) === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el 2013-07-03 04:15:38 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -1524,8 +1524,8 @@ (defvar gnus-newsgroup-seen nil "Range of seen articles in the current newsgroup.") -(defvar gnus-newsgroup-unexist nil - "Range of unexistent articles in the current newsgroup.") +(defvar gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent nil + "Range of nonexistent articles in the current newsgroup.") (defvar gnus-newsgroup-articles nil "List of articles in the current newsgroup.") @@ -1574,7 +1574,7 @@ gnus-newsgroup-killed gnus-newsgroup-unseen gnus-newsgroup-seen - gnus-newsgroup-unexist + gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent gnus-newsgroup-cached gnus-newsgroup-downloadable gnus-newsgroup-undownloaded @@ -5822,7 +5822,7 @@ (gnus-sorted-nunion (gnus-sorted-union gnus-newsgroup-dormant gnus-newsgroup-marked) gnus-newsgroup-unreads)) - (cdr (assq 'unexist (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info group)))))) + (cdr (assq 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info group)))))) (scored-list (gnus-killed-articles gnus-newsgroup-killed articles)) (scored (length scored-list)) (number (length articles)) @@ -5993,7 +5993,7 @@ (> min (car articles))))) (pop articles)) (set var articles)) - ((eq mark 'unexist) + ((eq mark 'nonexistent) (set var (cdr marks))))))))) (defun gnus-update-missing-marks (missing) @@ -6071,7 +6071,7 @@ (push (list del 'del (list (cdr type))) delta-marks)))) (when (or list - (eq (cdr type) 'unexist)) + (eq (cdr type) 'nonexistent)) (push (cons (cdr type) list) newmarked))) (when delta-marks @@ -10327,7 +10327,7 @@ (gnus-list-of-read-articles gnus-newsgroup-name)) (setq gnus-newsgroup-expirable (sort gnus-newsgroup-expirable '<))) - gnus-newsgroup-unexist)) + gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent)) (expiry-wait (if now 'immediate (gnus-group-find-parameter gnus-newsgroup-name 'expiry-wait))) @@ -12862,7 +12862,7 @@ ;; Use a compressed range to avoid creating a huge list. (gnus-range-difference (gnus-range-difference (list gnus-newsgroup-active) old) - gnus-newsgroup-unexist)) + gnus-newsgroup-nonexistent)) (setq len (gnus-range-length older)) (cond ((null older) nil) === modified file 'lisp/gnus/gnus.el' --- lisp/gnus/gnus.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/gnus.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -2636,11 +2636,11 @@ (scored . score) (saved . save) (cached . cache) (downloadable . download) (unsendable . unsend) (forwarded . forward) - (seen . seen) (unexist . unexist))) + (seen . seen) (nonexistent . nonexistent))) (defconst gnus-article-special-mark-lists '((seen range) - (unexist range) + (nonexistent range) (killed range) (bookmark tuple) (uid tuple) @@ -2655,7 +2655,7 @@ ;; `score' is not a proper mark ;; `bookmark': don't propagated it, or fix the bug in update-mark. (defconst gnus-article-unpropagated-mark-lists - '(seen cache download unsend score bookmark unexist) + '(seen cache download unsend score bookmark nonexistent) "Marks that shouldn't be propagated to back ends. Typical marks are those that make no sense in a standalone back end, such as a mark that says whether an article is stored in the cache === modified file 'lisp/gnus/nnimap.el' --- lisp/gnus/nnimap.el 2013-07-02 10:38:58 +0000 +++ lisp/gnus/nnimap.el 2013-07-06 09:36:51 +0000 @@ -1288,7 +1288,7 @@ (setf (nnimap-initial-resync nnimap-object) 0) (let ((qresyncp (nnimap-capability "QRESYNC")) params groups sequences active uidvalidity modseq group - unexist) + nonexistent) ;; Go through the infos and gather the data needed to know ;; what and how to request the data. (dolist (info infos) @@ -1296,7 +1296,7 @@ group (nnimap-decode-gnus-group (gnus-group-real-name (gnus-info-group info))) active (cdr (assq 'active params)) - unexist (assq 'unexist (gnus-info-marks info)) + nonexistent (assq 'nonexistent (gnus-info-marks info)) uidvalidity (cdr (assq 'uidvalidity params)) modseq (cdr (assq 'modseq params))) (setf (nnimap-examined nnimap-object) group) @@ -1304,7 +1304,7 @@ uidvalidity active modseq - unexist) + nonexistent) (push (list (nnimap-send-command "EXAMINE %S (%s (%s %s))" (utf7-encode group t) @@ -1323,7 +1323,7 @@ ;; is read-only or not. "SELECT")) start) - (if (and active uidvalidity unexist) + (if (and active uidvalidity nonexistent) ;; Fetch the last 100 flags. (setq start (max 1 (- (cdr active) 100))) (incf (nnimap-initial-resync nnimap-object)) @@ -1506,24 +1506,24 @@ (when new-marks (push (cons (car type) new-marks) marks))))) ;; Keep track of non-existing articles. - (let* ((old-unexists (assq 'unexist marks)) + (let* ((old-nonexistent (assq 'nonexistent marks)) (active (gnus-active group)) - (unexists + (nonexistent (if completep (gnus-range-difference active (gnus-compress-sequence existing)) (gnus-add-to-range - (cdr old-unexists) + (cdr old-nonexistent) (gnus-list-range-difference existing (gnus-active group)))))) (when (> (car active) 1) - (setq unexists (gnus-range-add - (cons 1 (1- (car active))) - unexists))) - (if old-unexists - (setcdr old-unexists unexists) - (push (cons 'unexist unexists) marks))) + (setq nonexistent (gnus-range-add + (cons 1 (1- (car active))) + nonexistent))) + (if old-nonexistent + (setcdr old-nonexistent nonexistent) + (push (cons 'nonexistent nonexistent) marks))) (gnus-info-set-marks info marks t)))) ;; Tell Gnus whether there are any \Recent messages in any of ;; the groups. @@ -1568,13 +1568,13 @@ (when ticks (push (cons (car type) ticks) marks))) (gnus-info-set-marks info marks t)) - ;; Add vanished to the list of unexisting articles. + ;; Add vanished to the list of nonexistent articles. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Paul Eggert writes: > On 07/06/2013 08:36 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> `unexist' has been in use for a couple of years, so this would break >> people's Gnus files. > > Sorry, I thought 'unexist' was a more recent edition. In that case, > how about if gnus-clean-old-newsrc automatically updates the old Gnus > files from 'unexist' to 'nonexistent'? The code already does that for > the old bad seplling 'unexists', so there's precedent for fixing > spelling in this area. Yeah, but `unexists' didn't last that long. :-) Anyway, I just don't see much of an upside to changing the what symbols are used in internal data structures. Calling them `gazonk' instead of `unexist' makes as much sense. So there's a downside (people flipping back and forth between versions will have to resync stuff), and the upside remains to be demonstrated. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 08 22:27:30 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2013 02:27:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40754 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwNeL-0006re-Gv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:27:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46055) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwNeJ-0006rJ-2t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:27:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwNeD-0007l1-0K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:27:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwNeC-0007kx-Tl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:27:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwNeB-0001eH-Kp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:27:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwNeA-0007kS-Oq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:27:19 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:51278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UwNeA-0007jM-Ip for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:27:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B38839E810F; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6xaKiHGtPtXU; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-108-49-126.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.108.49.126]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1ABF39E8008; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:27:09 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) On 07/08/2013 07:54 AM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Anyway, I just don't see much of an upside to changing the what symbols > are used in internal data structures. Emacs source code should avoid misspellings even in comments and in symbols used only internally. This is because the misspellings can cause confusion among developers, who are the main audience for the code. I could mark "unexist" as a word that is allowed to be in Emacs source code and documentation -- but then that word is more likely to slip into places where it's not wanted. > Calling them `gazonk' instead of `unexist' makes as much sense. Actually, it'd make more sense to call them 'gazonk'. When I look for spelling errors, my heuristics ignore strings like 'gazonk' -- which are obviously intended and are unlikely to cause confusion or inconsistencies -- and focus on strings like 'unexist' and 'inaccessable' and 'chedule' because they look more like English words and so are more likely to cause confusion. I could change 'unexist' to 'gazonk', if you like. That would be better to what we have now, for the reasons mentioned above. Still, as long as we're changing it, why not to the usual word? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 09:02:31 2013 Received: (at 14804) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2013 13:02:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41825 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwXYs-0004pl-Pw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:02:31 -0400 Received: from mx16.lb01.inode.at ([62.99.145.18]:48838 helo=mx.inode.at) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwXYp-0004pJ-IG for 14804@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:02:28 -0400 Received: from [91.119.88.127] (port=2852 helo=localhost) by smartmx-16.inode.at with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UwXYj-0005re-9b; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:02:21 +0200 Received: from wolfgang by localhost with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1UwXXE-0002gW-Rn; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:00:48 +0200 From: Wolfgang Jenkner To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 15:00:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sat, 06 Jul 2013 15:17:31 -0700") Message-ID: <85ehb7lwfz.fsf@inode.at> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 14804@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) On Sun, Jul 07 2013, Paul Eggert wrote: >> it's probably "non-existent" or "unexisting". > > Those are both English words, but "unexisting" is rare nowadays > (almost obsolete), and "unexist" itself is not English. Searching the web, however, suggests that, e.g., "make it unexist" is quite commonly used, even where the context otherwise indicates that people care about language usage. Wolfgang From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 09:42:42 2013 Received: (at 14804) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2013 13:42:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41918 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwYBm-00073D-Ah for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:42:42 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com ([209.85.212.54]:48373) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwYBj-00072V-L0 for 14804@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:42:40 -0400 Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q12so4424667vbe.27 for <14804@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:42:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=PSt8RhULQjW8GSz+JW8rz3M4qFb95kRqg5JP6rmBkv8=; b=EISY5osIEjmT6H/mHz0Dm9/g6WoN3qPYp3WCZSKFsw/YO84i8siXYme3D1oJTjtgjT A/uOxmEbtGI+9q/ZpfZOk6mwAZprImjhtAAujZtJeXfthQGfvy6oEagt0a1o2X3F2wWn +XfOQo4CIkbn7LmzWRclRxRI3xv88vFMZtKQ0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=PSt8RhULQjW8GSz+JW8rz3M4qFb95kRqg5JP6rmBkv8=; b=oBEk+ag+dImmd/yQtWrujwpmzqA9fkV79hByCK68xuvaqLtP6NzeHwnCBQYBlKLz3z 8xMjI2IJjYAziAbwMN39+xoP/MVEuqkUxnfavHMY0fx0hZHDi7mf7LBo6EcxODQeMrkd sFMvIDc6FdfwfxeLibNKDPxouqrrTIrbo3YOgAj4TSyzLwQES0TZCfnU6D6cKeALNa1N bnAQkLhacRxr1IDcSwL34Q0KJfpZc3JGlB1ez8TTyF6HZTQ3ErE0GPZdU+sowfeVV8AT HR8DidbJKOh6l6EpdFi+0RW7jKBnmYBsTaccb6WadnNu1UbHbfRgNCiRLdOX1WidpU7y dwpg== X-Received: by 10.52.27.232 with SMTP id w8mr13666345vdg.111.1373377353786; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heechee (pool-72-70-84-160.bstnma.east.verizon.net. [72.70.84.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ww6sm20008121vec.5.2013.07.09.06.42.32 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:42:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:42:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:27:09 -0700") Message-ID: <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlIWZMpOGz+5F2n5Vm7lA7HunA0XyDzrzhz9vnHf3nHtYkRHrKZWdIEdXeKua31ml9a3MiL X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804 Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 14804@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:27:09 -0700 Paul Eggert wrote: PE> On 07/08/2013 07:54 AM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Anyway, I just don't see much of an upside to changing the what symbols >> are used in internal data structures. PE> Emacs source code should avoid misspellings even in PE> comments and in symbols used only internally. This is PE> because the misspellings can cause confusion among PE> developers, who are the main audience for the code. I disagree for internal symbols, and because IMHO this is not a misspelling. There is very specific meaning to "unexist" that I can't think of a way to convey easily by any other simple verbs. PE> I could mark "unexist" as a word that is allowed to be PE> in Emacs source code and documentation -- but then that word PE> is more likely to slip into places where it's not wanted. I don't think that's a huge risk. Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 09:54:54 2013 Received: (at 14804) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2013 13:54:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwYNZ-0007qy-JF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:54:54 -0400 Received: from mail-ea0-f181.google.com ([209.85.215.181]:60420) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwYNW-0007qA-OG for 14804@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:54:51 -0400 Received: by mail-ea0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a15so3794674eae.40 for <14804@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=PZoILBh4/kM7rrCoCFJ0L31MdEPp3B+ygeWItqtFjJQ=; b=wRtqSPAqs60IKpoG+hVR/0rlMxk3yNJKL+ECehm1YBzRoONFZ20tw67OQPzlJPD7ob vvf5e1AVcC0gG6nfGmE5nAXILatpMgZ6qlkza07VsK+CaHwb15fRXIWRG73LEp0sjg8R d2ZTxrrQ9kpHvkH9D4QugSdqm0o620V8bN5Qyyj0D1woup+bo+Qns78u59ZdI7CrDzoa H2LYyIdHumHtR5hZ9Wl48RCYtjv0TGNFd9JhKxDI11Qs7YgXFT99vhSfvECDsSbwAxV6 thhNsX7HGKpmt3CM/Mxcvaof/Rvf7e7ro0DyQ/EneKGhZos7BTWkMwX4MJPA3hN+pjOo 2taA== X-Received: by 10.15.25.2 with SMTP id k2mr30198663eeu.99.1373378083540; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:54:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 06:54:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:54:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent To: Ted Zlatanov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804 Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Paul Eggert , 14804@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) This conversation is bringing back fond memories of my changing colour to color and behaviour to behavior, and Stefan's deadpan comment (archived in DEVEL.HUMOR) " [...] As is well known, people who speak American English tend to be more resource-conscious and try to avoid wasting precious bits transferring those redundant "u"s. Think of the number of occurrences of "color" and "behavior" in the Emacs tarball, multiply that by the number of times it'll be downloaded, stored on hard disks, archived, ...that's a substantial saving." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 10:12:02 2013 Received: (at 14804) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2013 14:12:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwYe9-0000V3-PP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:12:02 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.220.44]:60426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwYe8-0000Uc-9O for 14804@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:12:00 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id lj1so5613999pab.17 for <14804@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:11:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=P8PHCL/+jXb6K75Nev7dTM9vootffeRlmbmQ21A9w8A=; b=VllmR9hz7AmSSEMqILcShV7OEsZjx3bBkrF5RB6yrCSfTmrn+E1lbnBB2RFxXaoNi7 JWsO1zdOumFfJGa7DpJXafYvYx4REu8Pls4QiCAwAr3DES+l1MTmN8s+3T9McRhfsXjh vEv+YZYavFM12kU9q3psTscIXB3/kYRw3HqaZF6J+v/Va2Uu93C3ONkk9aPCqvQ+tg0q TbwG9qZjOSiwCE6+8Zu5UZPfRR2R2W3a0j2+IOno23OK2uxzLdua5j0FQFZPWXDRgP5Y LCn66haZlBSao0ekoBtIiBDSQd5YnNDwvzX7Wt3XucQgjePI5LaN7KRmH97vxdfPrLAz PBkg== X-Received: by 10.66.119.196 with SMTP id kw4mr28523119pab.164.1373379114375; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian-6.05 ([101.63.158.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fr1sm28483595pbb.26.2013.07.09.07.11.52 for <14804@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K To: 14804@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:43:28 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:54:03 +0200") Message-ID: <87k3kz95yv.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Juanma Barranquero writes: > This conversation is bringing back fond memories of my changing colour > to color and behaviour to behavior, and Stefan's deadpan comment > (archived in DEVEL.HUMOR) > > " [...] As is well known, people who speak American English tend to be > more resource-conscious and try to avoid wasting precious bits > transferring those redundant "u"s. Think of the number of occurrences > of "color" and "behavior" in the Emacs tarball, multiply that by the > number of times it'll be downloaded, stored on hard disks, archived, > ...that's a substantial saving." I think Stefan meant "people who write American English". ^^^^^ ^^^^^ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 10:45:49 2013 Received: (at 14804) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2013 14:45:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42690 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwZAq-00022K-E3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:45:48 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-f51.google.com ([74.125.83.51]:32885) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwZAn-00021t-SG for 14804@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:45:46 -0400 Received: by mail-ee0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e52so3693923eek.24 for <14804@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=NPN9tDs/nhbB+hrU/KCOhCt8RBncoQD21lwh62UILBA=; b=SBvmUioV7LpStfO2DHLzN0YYWAflp/sKB5S1uyLKF3urB8EQzoYEZ4ILY+HuQU7mFI FYmPzpwG1RMS8ZBITJJx8on0z1c2YQ/g9ebWNLTvEcojCkA1/j7pNIpMgK6hO8DJuoOh e27KUHPx7T/IJrGYn37czKnwJNjPsIngDYxKyrybz6Gl9OQF4XCz/b6AQdeWRtlMFqlX rEDbbyUJQxBYk8Gln1/yR16rACFjqLyiD4aT2sD2TZIJxniT84oW4m5ig/JTBq45y8Ez m4jYXr8JWuBe8XcA0MFZAXHE0jQfgbkdjKCiWL9kh71si/5aDbyqqKQ//xSBGrzuEQaz Zd8Q== X-Received: by 10.15.76.71 with SMTP id m47mr30587455eey.70.1373381140023; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:44:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k3kz95yv.fsf@gmail.com> References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k3kz95yv.fsf@gmail.com> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:44:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent To: Jambunathan K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804 Cc: 14804@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Jambunathan K wrote: > I think Stefan meant "people who write American English". >From a logical POV, what Stefan wrote is not incorrect or inconsistent: People who speak English tend to be resource conscious, and as a consequence, they avoid wasting bits *transferring* these "u"s (and presumably, writing them, which is implicit). Also, thanks for nitpicking the joke, spoilsport. J From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 09 10:45:32 2013 Received: (at 14804-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2013 14:45:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwZAZ-00021V-HM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:45:31 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:34919) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwZAX-000216-HW for 14804-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB11A60020; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:45:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CQ4X5UYb27z5; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-108-49-126.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.108.49.126]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0CD7A6001F; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51DC2203.5060209@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:45:23 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Zlatanov Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> In-Reply-To: <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804-done Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 14804-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 07/09/2013 06:42 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > IMHO this is not a > misspelling OK, in that case I'll add it to the list of properly-spelled words, and I'm marking the bug as done. 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[72.70.84.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qh6sm20680824vec.0.2013.07.09.09.21.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:21:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k3kz95yv.fsf@gmail.com> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:21:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k3kz95yv.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:43:28 +0530") Message-ID: <877ggzvh4y.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnX5weMh71XtSHSrEABzNJO/rVun/I2hDFYzshLFjBuglsUDPBgp1P/vSasa+xfx9aGWXqv X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804 Cc: 14804@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:43:28 +0530 Jambunathan K wrote: JK> Juanma Barranquero writes: >> This conversation is bringing back fond memories of my changing colour >> to color and behaviour to behavior, and Stefan's deadpan comment >> (archived in DEVEL.HUMOR) >> >> " [...] As is well known, people who speak American English tend to be JK> I think Stefan meant "people who write American English". You're right, it's much funnier that way. 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[72.70.84.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sw5sm21020135vdc.4.2013.07.09.09.22.28 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:22:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: 14804@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14804: Gnus spelling fix: unexist -> nonexistent Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <51D7E64E.40601@cs.ucla.edu> <87d2qvzomv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <51D8977B.2060009@cs.ucla.edu> <51DB74FD.1090507@cs.ucla.edu> <87li5fvohl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <51DC2203.5060209@cs.ucla.edu> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:22:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: <51DC2203.5060209@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:45:23 -0700") Message-ID: <8738rnvh30.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkB4X6EwzEb1o/Ae3+UI91O59tC4PQoZX2GplNMsWhxewZ7tMr1vnH/Ho8jQ/WZN9xzPgi/ X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14804 Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:45:23 -0700 Paul Eggert wrote: PE> On 07/09/2013 06:42 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> IMHO this is not a misspelling PE> OK, in that case I'll add it to the list of properly-spelled words, PE> and I'm marking the bug as done. Thanks! Ted From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:36:39 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator