From unknown Sat Aug 16 10:47:34 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14790 <14790@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14790 <14790@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual Reply-To: bug#14790 <14790@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 17:47:34 +0000 retitle 14790 An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual reassign 14790 emacs submitter 14790 Angelo Graziosi severity 14790 minor tag 14790 notabug wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 04 12:43:40 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2013 16:43:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57605 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uumd9-0008Re-Ea for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:43:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uumd7-0008RM-8P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:43:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uumcz-0006OR-EG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:43:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:39282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uumcz-0006OL-Ay for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:43:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uumcu-0003ZJ-GX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:43:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uumcp-0006Mk-Lo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:43:24 -0400 Received: from smtp203.alice.it ([82.57.200.99]:46480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uumcp-0006Ly-9Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:43:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (79.56.199.152) by smtp203.alice.it (8.6.060.15) (authenticated as angelo.graziosi@alice.it) id 5123A5970AA553BD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 18:43:13 +0200 Message-ID: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 18:43:04 +0200 From: Angelo Graziosi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-emacs Subject: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Usually I build Emacs PDF manual applying this patch: diff -Naur emacs.orig/doc/emacs/emacs.texi emacs/doc/emacs/emacs.texi --- emacs.orig/doc/emacs/emacs.texi 2012-01-15 18:59:57.942500000 +0100 +++ emacs/doc/emacs/emacs.texi 2012-02-05 21:32:51.656250000 +0100 @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@ \input texinfo @c -*- coding: utf-8 -*- +@afourpaper +@setchapternewpage odd @setfilename ../../info/emacs @settitle GNU Emacs Manual it generates the PDF in A4 format and opens chapters on odd page. Now, say after r. 113247 (a few days ago), building the PDF produces some "harmless" errors (the PDF is created) which one doesn't like to see: $ make emacs.pdf 2>&1 | tee ~/work/emacs_pdf_a4.log $ grep -i error ~/work/emacs_pdf_a4.log @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] @textrm (@ texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] @textrm (@ texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] @textrm (@ texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] @textrm (@ texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to Instead without the patch, no error is catched: $ make emacs.pdf 2>&1 | tee ~/work/emacs_pdf_us.log $ grep -i error ~/work/emacs_pdf_us.log EMPTY Could this be related to the recent changes introduced with rev. 113268? (different doc/*.texi files were changed...) Could you add an option to build emacs.pdf in A4 format etc.? TIA, Angelo. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 04 14:13:36 2013 Received: (at 14790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2013 18:13:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57824 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uuo2B-0002ki-L0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:13:35 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:38786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uuo28-0002kN-8f for 14790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:13:33 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MPF00500BUQBV00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 14790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 21:12:23 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MPF004XZBWMRDG0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 21:12:23 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 21:12:17 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14790: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual In-reply-to: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Angelo Graziosi Message-id: <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14790 Cc: 14790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 18:43:04 +0200 > From: Angelo Graziosi > > Now, say after r. 113247 (a few days ago), building the PDF produces > some "harmless" errors (the PDF is created) which one doesn't like to see: > > $ make emacs.pdf 2>&1 | tee ~/work/emacs_pdf_a4.log > > $ grep -i error ~/work/emacs_pdf_a4.log > @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] > @textrm (@ > texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to > @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] > @textrm (@ > texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to > @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] > @textrm (@ > texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to > @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] > @textrm (@ > texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to Please show the full error messages. They identify the source lines and also give additional information about the problems. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 04 16:06:34 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2013 20:06:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58018 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UupnV-00060C-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:06:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39163) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UupnU-000600-C4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:06:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UupnM-0006gf-AC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:06:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UupnM-0006gU-8A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:06:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UupnJ-0003fB-My for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:06:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UupnG-0006en-5I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:06:21 -0400 Received: from smtp203.alice.it ([82.57.200.99]:54781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uupn9-0006d0-3v; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:06:11 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (79.56.199.152) by smtp203.alice.it (8.6.060.15) (authenticated as angelo.graziosi@alice.it) id 5123A5970AA9E636; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 22:06:07 +0200 Message-ID: <51D5D5AB.2030005@alice.it> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 22:06:03 +0200 From: Angelo Graziosi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14790: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual References: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-emacs X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Il 04/07/2013 20.12, Eli Zaretskii ha scritto: >> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 18:43:04 +0200 >> From: Angelo Graziosi >> >> Now, say after r. 113247 (a few days ago), building the PDF produces >> some "harmless" errors (the PDF is created) which one doesn't like to see: >> >> $ make emacs.pdf 2>&1 | tee ~/work/emacs_pdf_a4.log >> >> $ grep -i error ~/work/emacs_pdf_a4.log >> @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] >> @textrm (@ >> texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to >> @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] >> @textrm (@ >> texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to >> @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] >> @textrm (@ >> texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to >> @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] >> @textrm (@ >> texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to > > Please show the full error messages. They identify the source lines > and also give additional information about the problems. > Oops... right.. Here they are: [...] iso[]@textrm , @texttt M-x iso-iso2gtex[] @textrm and @texttt M-x [212] [213] [214] [215] [216] [217] [218] [219] [220] [221]) (/work/emacs/doc/emacs/programs.texi Chapter 23 [222] [223] [224] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 328--336 []@textrm To ei-ther en-able or dis-able Which Func-tion mode, use the com-mand @texttt M-x [225] [226] [227] [228] [229] [230] [231] [232] [233] [234] [235] [236] [237] [238] [239]) (/work/emacs/doc/emacs/building.texi Chapter 24 [240] [241] [242] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 243--248 []@textrm To parse mes-sages from the com-piler, Com-pi-la-tion mode uses the v ari-able Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 253--259 @textrm (@texttt compilation-next-error[]@textrm ) and @texttt M-p[] @textrm (@ texttt compilation-previous-error[]@textrm ) to move to [243] [244] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 432--437 @textrm To dis-play any er-ror mes-sages as-so-ci-ated with the cur-rent line, type @texttt M-x [245] [246] [247] [248] [249] [250] [251] [252] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 1200--1204 []@textrm If the vari-able @texttt gdb-use-colon-colon-notation[] @textrm is no [...] the other are a repetition of these. As you see, they aren't fatal error but until a few day ago they didn't appear and, as I wrote, they appear only with my patch for A4+open chapter on odd pages. Ciao Angelo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 04 19:28:24 2013 Received: (at 14790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2013 23:28:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58295 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uuswq-0003MF-7d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:28:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36558 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uuswo-0003M6-AU for 14790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:28:22 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uuswl-0006Qe-57; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:28:19 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Angelo Graziosi Subject: Re: bug#14790: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual References: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> <51D5D5AB.2030005@alice.it> X-Spook: bce Rule Psix MILSATCOM Leitrim sweep Geraldton jihad X-Ran: NJR*F?1pI=lMv:(ON~eI;.[ (Angelo Graziosi's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2013 22:06:03 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14790 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 14790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) Angelo Graziosi wrote: > Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 328--336 This is not a bug. We address issues related to line breaks just before the release. It is pointless to work on them before, because they change all the time. And when we do, the manual is typeset for printing as a book by the FSF on small paper size. In my experience, it is impossible to make line-breaks look nice on more than one paper size for a 500+ page manual, and pointless to even try. So I for one am not going to spend any time on this. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 04 19:28:48 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2013 23:28:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58298 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UusxD-0003Mn-Js for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:28:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36567 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UusxC-0003Mg-BV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:28:46 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UusxC-0008Dy-3A for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:28:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:28:46 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 14790 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) tag 14790 notabug wontfix close 14790 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 04 19:38:35 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2013 23:38:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58308 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uut6g-0004d0-PI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:38:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uut6e-0004cd-DZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:38:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uut6W-0002mI-6f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:38:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uut6W-0002mE-47 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:38:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40138) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uut6S-0001SR-2A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:38:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uut6M-0002jg-NF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:38:19 -0400 Received: from smtp204.alice.it ([82.57.200.100]:50284) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uut6H-0002hj-6P; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 19:38:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (79.56.199.152) by smtp204.alice.it (8.6.060.15) (authenticated as angelo.graziosi@alice.it) id 51C49E420142169B; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 01:38:07 +0200 Message-ID: <51D6075C.3020205@alice.it> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 01:38:04 +0200 From: Angelo Graziosi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#14790: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual References: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> <51D5D5AB.2030005@alice.it> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-emacs X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Il 05/07/2013 1.28, Glenn Morris ha scritto: > Angelo Graziosi wrote: > >> Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 328--336 > > This is not a bug. We address issues related to line breaks just before > the release. It is pointless to work on them before, because they change > all the time. And when we do, the manual is typeset for printing as a > book by the FSF on small paper size. In my experience, it is impossible > to make line-breaks look nice on more than one paper size for a 500+ > page manual, and pointless to even try. So I for one am not going to > spend any time on this. > My post didn't regard that... but another message.. anyway.. angelo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 05 02:35:02 2013 Received: (at 14790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2013 06:35:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58823 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uuzbh-0003iT-PR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 02:35:02 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:49882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uuzbe-0003he-AV for 14790@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 02:34:59 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MPG00I00A3TL500@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 14790@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 09:34:51 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MPG00HW3AA2VVC0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 09:34:50 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 09:34:45 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14790: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual In-reply-to: <51D6075C.3020205@alice.it> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Angelo Graziosi Message-id: <83d2qxzf96.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> <51D5D5AB.2030005@alice.it> <51D6075C.3020205@alice.it> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14790 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 14790@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 01:38:04 +0200 > From: Angelo Graziosi > Cc: 14790@debbugs.gnu.org > > My post didn't regard that... but another message.. anyway.. If you mean your request for an option for building on A4 paper, then I guess it would be better to file a separate bug report. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 05 07:15:29 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2013 11:15:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv3z6-00024c-Pf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:15:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42818) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv3z2-000247-Aa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:15:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv3yv-0006h2-F6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:15:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43025) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv3yv-0006gy-Bo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:15:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv3yu-0004kZ-0j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:15:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv3ys-0006g1-NC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:15:15 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:53656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv3ys-0006fi-Dv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:15:14 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MPG00200N2QBG00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:15:13 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MPG002E8N9C2IA0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:15:12 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:15:08 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14790: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual In-reply-to: <51D5D5AB.2030005@alice.it> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Angelo Graziosi Message-id: <83a9m1z29v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> <51D5D5AB.2030005@alice.it> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) > Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 22:06:03 +0200 > From: Angelo Graziosi > CC: bug-emacs > > Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 328--336 > []@textrm To ei-ther en-able or dis-able Which Func-tion mode, use the > com-mand > @texttt M-x > [225] [226] [227] [228] [229] [230] [231] [232] [233] [234] [235] [236] > [237] [238] [239]) (/work/emacs/doc/emacs/building.texi Chapter 24 > [240] [241] [242] > Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 243--248 > []@textrm To parse mes-sages from the com-piler, Com-pi-la-tion mode > uses the v > ari-able "Underfull \hbox" means that there's too few characters to typeset a line of text without making it ugly. TeX tries to fill lines, but when the Texinfo sources requests a fixed-width typeface, such as with names of variables and functions, it cannot do that. The solution is to rearrange text around the problematic part. I agree with Glenn that doing this now is a waste of effort. Bottom line: ignore those errors. ("Overfull boxes", OTOH, are more serious.) > As you see, they aren't fatal error but until a few day ago they didn't > appear and, as I wrote, they appear only with my patch for A4+open > chapter on odd pages. As the Texinfo sources change, these issues can appear and disappear. It's normal. Likewise, they can appear with one paper size and not the other. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 05 07:41:24 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2013 11:41:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59400 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv4OB-0004bH-GD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:41:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv4OA-0004ah-7h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:41:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv4O2-0008IU-Hf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:41:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv4O2-0008IO-EV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:41:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53217) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv4Nz-0007cM-Ee for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:41:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv4Nw-0008HD-T8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:41:11 -0400 Received: from smtp202.alice.it ([82.57.200.98]:33740) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv4Nt-0008Ff-G2; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:41:05 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (87.3.157.179) by smtp202.alice.it (8.6.060.15) (authenticated as angelo.graziosi@alice.it) id 51C49E44014D9586; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:41:01 +0200 Message-ID: <51D6B0C8.7030306@alice.it> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 13:40:56 +0200 From: Angelo Graziosi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14790: An issue building Emacs (trunk) manual References: <51D5A618.3060407@alice.it> <83hagayz26.fsf@gnu.org> <51D5D5AB.2030005@alice.it> <83a9m1z29v.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83a9m1z29v.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Il 05/07/2013 13.15, Eli Zaretskii ha scritto: >> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 22:06:03 +0200 >> From: Angelo Graziosi >> CC: bug-emacs >> >> Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 328--336 >> []@textrm To ei-ther en-able or dis-able Which Func-tion mode, use the >> com-mand >> @texttt M-x >> [225] [226] [227] [228] [229] [230] [231] [232] [233] [234] [235] [236] >> [237] [238] [239]) (/work/emacs/doc/emacs/building.texi Chapter 24 >> [240] [241] [242] >> Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 243--248 >> []@textrm To parse mes-sages from the com-piler, Com-pi-la-tion mode >> uses the v >> ari-able > Eli, > "Underfull \hbox" means that there's too few characters to typeset a I know what "Underfull \hbox" means (almost every LaTeX document produces that), my observations were for the other "error" messages (those catched by grep) that until rev. 113247 didn't appear.. Anyway, no problems. As I wrote, they aren't "fatal"... Ciao, Angelo. From unknown Sat Aug 16 10:47:34 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator