From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 01 14:50:40 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jul 2013 18:50:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50869 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UtjBP-0007e8-N7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:50:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57683) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UtjBL-0007do-1b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:50:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtjBC-0006sA-AJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:50:29 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:44827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtjBB-0006rh-Tp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:50:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59357) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtjB8-00028H-Qz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:50:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Utj8K-0005IA-35 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:47:30 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:48811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtivH-0005O4-DB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:33:59 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r61IRcK2002375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:27:38 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r61IXvhE022992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:57 GMT Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r61IXvkx022982 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:33:57 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:33:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) A while back, with some advice from Eli, I had Emacs working with images on MS Windows. I recently got a new laptop, with Windows 7, so I had to start over again, to get image support for Emacs. FWIW, and at Eli's suggestion, here is some feedback about the hassles of doing that, and a plea to find some way to have Emacs support for showing images out of the box. (Yes, the usual, common image types, at least.) 1. Some comments about README.W32. They occurred to me when reading it, looking for info about getting support for images in Emacs. README.W32 text is refixed by "> ": > Emacs can also support some other image formats with appropriate > libraries. These libraries are all available as part of GTK > download for Windows (http://www.gtk.org/download/win32.php), Which is what? (What is GTK?) "As part of" - does that mean that downloading GTK, whatever it is, gives me _more_ than image support? If so, do I need to do that, or can I somehow get just image support? > or from the GnuWin32 project. Which is what? and where? Same questions, to try to understand what to download for image support. BTW, the GnuWin summary page, here: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/summary.html says this, giving the impression that GNU Emacs includes or at least distributes GnuWin, which I don't think is the case (is it?): "Utilities and libraries provided by GnuWin, are used and distributed with packages such as GNU Emacs and KDE-Windows." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > * GnuTLS support >=20 > In order to support GnuTLS at runtime... Well, yes, I can understand that GnuTLS support supports GnuTLS... > * libxml2 support >=20 > In order to support libxml2 at runtime... But what ARE GnuTLS and libxml2? Why might a user want them? 2. I also went here, looking for info about how to add image support for MS Windows: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/Other-useful-ports.html#Other-use= ful-ports But that didn't really help much. I do see that it lists various image-support tools under the heading GnuWin32: Jpeg, GifLib, LibPng, etc. (The README.W32 does not say where (or even what) GnuWin32 is, does it?) At the GnuWin32 site I see a page for GifLib, for example, but it was not clear to me what to download and then what to do. Should I download the "Binaries" Zip from there? And then what? That GifLib page says "You can also download the files from the GnuWin32 files page." But that page seems to have just a *setup.exe download. Similarly for the other image types. It's not clear what to download and from where. I did not want to install more than just the needed image libraries (dll's). Yes, I realize that GNU Emacs and GnuWin32 are different. If GNU Emacs told users directly and clearly (1,2,3...) what to do to get image support, then perhaps I wouldn't be fiddling with trying to understand the GnuWin32 site. 3. IMHO, there could - should - be some guidance in the *Emacs manual* about how to get image support for GNU Emacs, including on MS Windows. 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU Emacs out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, especially new users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. 5. There was at least one other bug thread about this, #4367, but it seems to have gone nowhere... Still hoping that Emacs will step up to the plate and DTRT for users when it comes to image support. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-06-27 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113205 dgutov@yandex.ru-20130627095155-f1lv1c7xf99g1sss Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3 LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib CPPFLAGS=3D-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 05 11:56:01 2013 Received: (at 14762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2013 15:56:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Ma-0002L7-RA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:56:01 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:42244) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8MY-0002Kk-3t for 14762@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:55:58 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r65FtpHO019546 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <14762@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:55:52 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r65FtoV0029206 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <14762@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:55:51 GMT Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r65FtoDk001440 for <14762@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:55:50 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <02324b26-84b3-42bf-afff-ece87889dd20@default> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#14762: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14762 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) > 3. IMHO, there could - should - be some guidance in the *Emacs manual* > about how to get image support for GNU Emacs, including on MS Windows. >=20 > 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU Emacs > out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, especially new > users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. Let me add that the requirement that `image-dired' needs Imagemagick installed should also be documented in the manual (it is currently mentioned only in the image-dired.el Commentary AFAICT. The Emacs manual should provide a complete recipe for users to provide Emacs with image support. But again, #4 is really the way to go. Just documenting how a user could make Emacs usable is no real substitute for making it usable out of the box. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 01:34:24 2014 Received: (at 14762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 06:34:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1Ue-0000AZ-8p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:34:24 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33099) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1Ub-0000AO-Uk for 14762@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:34:22 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1UO-0006d8-0e; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:34:08 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#14762: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows References: Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:32:59 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:33:56 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87fvnuyuzo.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC1UO-0006d8-0e X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392446048.49112@k/+Jp4GhHls3JeaK8pcr3w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14762 Cc: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU Emacs > out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, especially new > users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. Doesn't the Emacs Windows builds come with all the appropriate DLLs these days? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 01:38:00 2014 Received: (at 14762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 06:38:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56220 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1Y7-0000GP-2t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:37:59 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1Y5-0000GH-5e for 14762@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:37:57 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1Xp-0006fZ-Eo; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:37:42 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#14762: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows References: Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:36:32 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:33:56 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87bnyiyutr.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC1Xp-0006fZ-Eo X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392446262.97435@FIWEvW9nk9DjNn+5OlypzQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14762 Cc: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: >> * GnuTLS support >> >> In order to support GnuTLS at runtime... > > Well, yes, I can understand that GnuTLS support supports GnuTLS... > >> * libxml2 support >> >> In order to support libxml2 at runtime... > > But what ARE GnuTLS and libxml2? Why might a user want them? Fixed on trunk. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 04:32:30 2014 Received: (at 14762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 09:32:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56422 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC4Gx-00007b-5L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 04:32:30 -0500 Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:42722) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC4Gr-00007L-UA for 14762@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 04:32:25 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0O00G007EIRZ00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 14762@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:34:20 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0O00CDH7X8BJ60@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:34:20 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:32:02 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14762: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows In-reply-to: <87fvnuyuzo.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Message-id: <83txcavtkd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fvnuyuzo.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14762 Cc: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:32:59 -0800 > Cc: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org > > Drew Adams writes: > > > 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU Emacs > > out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, especially new > > users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. > > Doesn't the Emacs Windows builds come with all the appropriate DLLs > these days? No. The binary was compiled against those DLLs, but the DLLs themselves need to be downloaded and installed by the end users. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 05:32:16 2014 Received: (at 14762-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 10:32:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC5Cn-0001rv-4X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:32:16 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:49152) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC5Ci-0001rg-1R for 14762-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:32:11 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0O00H00A182N00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14762-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:32:06 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0O00GMAALHYG80@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:32:06 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:31:48 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14762: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows In-reply-to: <83txcavtkd.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83r47dx5d7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fvnuyuzo.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83txcavtkd.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14762-done Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 14762-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:32:02 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org > > > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > > Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:32:59 -0800 > > Cc: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Drew Adams writes: > > > > > 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU Emacs > > > out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, especially new > > > users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. > > > > Doesn't the Emacs Windows builds come with all the appropriate DLLs > > these days? > > No. The binary was compiled against those DLLs, but the DLLs > themselves need to be downloaded and installed by the end users. I have now fixed the remaining issues raised by this bug report, with the exception of one: > 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU Emacs > out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, especially new > users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. This is up to the person(s) who produce and upload the Windows binary distributions. FWIW, Jason Rumney, who did that in the past, explained his reasons not to include optional libraries here: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=4367#75 I'm therefore closing this bug report; if the fact that binary distributions on ftp.gnu.org do not include image libraries is still considered a problem worthy of a bug report, please submit a separate report for it, as this is no longer a development issue. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 20:31:32 2014 Received: (at 14762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 01:31:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32905 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCfid-0008K9-Kr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:31:32 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:33459) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCfib-0008K1-Mi for 14762@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:31:30 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A1VRl6021205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:31:28 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A1VRDF012024 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:31:27 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A1VQGC020722; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:31:26 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1c833b73-1da2-4805-b8d8-a81466473968@default> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 17:31:24 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#14762: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows References: <87fvnuyuzo.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87fvnuyuzo.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14762 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 14762@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > > 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU > > Emacs out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, > > especially new users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. >=20 > Doesn't the Emacs Windows builds come with all the appropriate DLLs > these days? Eli can answer that better than I. Last thing I recall, I had to download some separate, non-Emacs binaries etc. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:22:05 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:24:13 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator