From unknown Tue Aug 12 08:33:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14726: 24.3.50; (emacs) `Search Case' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14726 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14726@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13722802616313 (code B ref -1); Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:58:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2013 20:57:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Urwma-0001dk-Gc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:57:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35653) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrwmX-0001dU-VM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:57:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrwmR-0002zp-Tk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:57:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrwmR-0002zl-QY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:57:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37365) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrwmQ-0005wg-IP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:57:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrwmP-0002zF-Q5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:57:30 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:26091) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrwmP-0002z6-ID for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:57:29 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r5QKvSvA019520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:57:28 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5QKvRrq017039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:57:27 GMT Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5QKvQoG002797 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:57:26 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <253867db-8c01-4c20-a1c3-ba1a5fda6559@default> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:57:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The text does not make clear that `M-c' can be used to toggle case sensitivity even when `case-fold-search' is nil. This is the current order, and all that is said: 1. Explanation of default behavior (i.e., when `case-fold-search' is non-nil). 2. Mention that `M-c' toggles case-sensitivity. 3. Statement that setting `case-fold-search' to nil makes all letters match exactly. #3 is emphatic: all lettes must match exactly. I.e., the impression can be given that #3 is independent of `M-c'. 4. And there is no explanation that #1 is the default case, which *corresponds to non-nil `case-fold-search'*. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-06-20 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113100 eliz@gnu.org-20130620173624-w9v620tog4yacftk Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3 LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib CPPFLAGS=3D-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' From unknown Tue Aug 12 08:33:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14726: 24.3.50; (emacs) `Search Case' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 06:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14726 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 14726@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14726-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14726.13918424717203 (code B ref 14726); Sat, 08 Feb 2014 06:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 14726) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 06:54:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1o6-0001s7-RP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:54:31 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1o4-0001rw-JN for 14726@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:54:29 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1no-0006t1-Bl; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:54:12 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <253867db-8c01-4c20-a1c3-ba1a5fda6559@default> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:53:03 -0800 In-Reply-To: <253867db-8c01-4c20-a1c3-ba1a5fda6559@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:57:25 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87lhxmxfhs.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC1no-0006t1-Bl X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392447254.12953@xvMxK0Pqo/iHlEJU1vGHgw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > The text does not make clear that `M-c' can be used to toggle case > sensitivity even when `case-fold-search' is nil. > > This is the current order, and all that is said: > > 1. Explanation of default behavior (i.e., when `case-fold-search' is > non-nil). > > 2. Mention that `M-c' toggles case-sensitivity. > > 3. Statement that setting `case-fold-search' to nil makes all letters > match exactly. > > #3 is emphatic: all lettes must match exactly. I.e., the impression can > be given that #3 is independent of `M-c'. Just rearranging the paragraphs seems to fix that impression, so I've done that on the trunk. > 4. And there is no explanation that #1 is the default case, which > *corresponds to non-nil `case-fold-search'*. It seems self-evident that when the manual says If you set the variable @code{case-fold-search} to @code{nil}, then all letters must match exactly, including case. you're changing things from the default. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 01:54:37 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 06:54:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56257 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1oC-0001sQ-Nk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:54:37 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58067) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1o9-0001sG-St for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:54:34 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1nt-0006tB-K8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:54:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:53:09 -0800 Message-Id: <87k3d6xfhm.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #14726 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC1nt-0006tB-K8 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392447260.41422@Pzr9zMKTUmp/1k/A0Z3Khw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 14726 24.4 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 01:54:51 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 06:54:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1oQ-0001sw-AV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:54:50 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58072) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1oN-0001sn-Rs for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 01:54:48 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1oA-0006tT-4y for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:54:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:53:26 -0800 Message-Id: <87iosqxfh5.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #14726 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC1oA-0006tT-4y X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392447274.78679@T4xFKXklMhRY2nKy+8Pp1w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 14726 24.4