From unknown Sat Aug 16 11:12:14 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#147 <147@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#147 <147@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.60; scratch buffer initial text Reply-To: bug#147 <147@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 18:12:14 +0000 retitle 147 23.0.60; scratch buffer initial text reassign 147 emacs submitter 147 Chong Yidong severity 147 normal thanks From cyd@stupidchicken.com Wed Apr 16 17:02:33 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Apr 2008 00:02:33 +0000 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m3H02U8V025316 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:02:31 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1CC334E4CC; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:58:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Cc: , submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.0.60; scratch buffer initial text References: <004b01c8a00e$b2242a40$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:58:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <004b01c8a00e$b2242a40$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:35 -0700") Message-ID: <87iqyh73o2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Drew Adams" writes: > This is the current text: > > ;; This buffer is for notes you don't want to save, and for Lisp evaluation. > ;; If you want to create a file, visit that file with C-x C-f, > ;; then enter the text in that file's own buffer. > > For newbies, it's not clear that you can "visit that file" for a file > that does not yet exist. Also, the last part about "file's own buffer" > is not clear. And the emphasis should be on Lisp evaluation here and > the fact that this buffer is not saved. I don't think these phrases are prone to confusion. Anyway, new users are now presented with the fancy startup screen, not the scratch buffer. Let's not worry about this. From cyd@stupidchicken.com Thu Apr 17 11:09:17 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,ONEWORD autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Apr 2008 18:09:17 +0000 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m3HI9ElE006685 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:09:15 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 653AA4E4AD; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Close Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:05:19 -0400 Message-ID: <878wzc2w80.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii close 146 close 147 thanks From unknown Sat Aug 16 11:12:14 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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