From unknown Mon Jun 23 09:37:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14697: 24.3.50; doc string of `find-file-visit-truename' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14697 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14697@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.137200769829926 (code B ref -1); Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:15:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2013 17:14:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UqnsP-0007mc-CQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:14:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UqnsM-0007mK-Un for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:14:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UqnsF-0004Ul-Id for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:14:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UqnsF-0004Uh-AZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:14:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45763) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UqnsD-0007tQ-1W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:14:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UqnsA-0004TN-G4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:14:44 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:26017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UqnsA-0004T4-6o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:14:42 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r5NH8Mpd028708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:08:23 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5NHEdr1006512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:14:40 GMT Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5NHEdvh006509 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:14:39 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:14:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) A minor problem. 1. The statement: "Non-nil means visit a file under its truename" is a bit misleading. A non-nil value does not mean that a file gets visited (...) at all. It means only that IF a file gets visited then it gets visited under its truename. 2. The doc is hard to understand unless one knows what visiting a file "under its truename" means. The doc does a good job of saying what the truename of a file is. What is missing is to say what "visiting under" a given name means. Presumably what is meant is that the truename is the name of the visited file, i.e., it is used as the value of `buffer-file-name'. If so, say that. I would suggest something like this: Non-nil means visiting a file uses its truename as the visited-file name. That is, the buffer visiting the file has the truename as the value of `buffer-file-name'. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-06-20 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113100 eliz@gnu.org-20130620173624-w9v620tog4yacftk Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3 LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib CPPFLAGS=3D-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' From unknown Mon Jun 23 09:37:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14697: 24.3.50; doc string of `find-file-visit-truename' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14697 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 14697@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14697-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14697.13918428178798 (code B ref 14697); Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 14697) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 07:00:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56280 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1tf-0002G7-Lz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:00:16 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1tb-0002Bb-ND for 14697@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:00:12 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1tM-0006xK-Nv; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 07:59:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:58:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:14:39 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <874n4axf87.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC1tM-0006xK-Nv X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392447597.50912@lY39Bb/sQB07LgZhXbojXA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > I would suggest something like this: > > Non-nil means visiting a file uses its truename as the visited-file name. > That is, the buffer visiting the file has the truename as the value of > `buffer-file-name'. Yes, that's better. Installed on the trunk. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 02:00:21 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 07:00:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56283 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1tk-0002Le-Cp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:00:20 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43039) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1tf-0002Fy-Oz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:00:16 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WC1tR-0006xT-MI for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:00:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:58:53 -0800 Message-Id: <8738juxf82.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #14697 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WC1tR-0006xT-MI X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392447602.22992@V0AUJzFUYWmogPyWW4+NJQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 14697 24.4