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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:46:53 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.4) of 2013-02-21 on build16 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11302000 Configured using: `configure '--with-pop' '--without-hesiod' '--with-kerberos' '--with-kerberos5' '--with-xim' '--with-wide-int' '--enable-autodepend' '--prefix=/usr' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--with-x' '--with-sound' '--with-sync-input' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' 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disp-table tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) What I do: start emacs maximize the window split with C-x 3 open a directory with C-x C-f /tmp click on left and right half of emacs The height of my emacs frame shrinks a little bit every time I do so, so I am loosing about one line of text when clicking to the left half and back to the right half. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Karl Brodowsky Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137693858121465 (code B ref 14627); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2013 18:56:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBUci-0005Zx-JA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:56:18 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:54557) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBUcZ-0005ZX-KA for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:56:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 14527 invoked by uid 89); 19 Aug 2013 18:56:05 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 19 Aug 2013 18:56:05 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (unknown [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 501C21A01E4; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:56:14 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello. 15 jun 2013 kl. 16:22 skrev Karl Brodowsky : > > What I do: > start emacs > maximize the window > split with C-x 3 > open a directory with C-x C-f /tmp > click on left and right half of emacs > The height of my emacs frame shrinks a little bit every time I do so, so > I am loosing about one line of text when clicking to the left half and > back to the right half. I can't reproduce this on OpenSuse 12.3, with 24.2 or the trunk. What dont do you use, and what is your screen size? You did not mention what window manager you run, I used kwin. Jan D. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Karl Brodowsky Cc: "14627@debbugs.gnu.org" <14627@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137693973523745 (code B ref 14627); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2013 19:15:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBUvO-0006Av-IW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:15:34 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:54626) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VBUvL-0006Ai-O9 for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:15:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 15622 invoked by uid 89); 19 Aug 2013 19:15:30 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 19 Aug 2013 19:15:30 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.240] (unknown [172.20.199.240]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 469601A01AF; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:15:30 +0000 (UTC) References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B350) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:15:29 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Aargh... 19 aug 2013 kl. 20:56 skrev Jan Dj=C3=A4rv : > Hello. >=20 > 15 jun 2013 kl. 16:22 skrev Karl Brodowsky : >=20 >>=20 >> What I do: >> start emacs >> maximize the window >> split with C-x 3 >> open a directory with C-x C-f /tmp >> click on left and right half of emacs >> The height of my emacs frame shrinks a little bit every time I do so, so >> I am loosing about one line of text when clicking to the left half and >> back to the right half. >=20 > I can't reproduce this on OpenSuse 12.3, with 24.2 or the trunk. > What dont do you use, and what is dont -> font > your screen size? > You did not mention what window manager you run, I used kwin.=20 >=20 > Jan D. >=20 >=20 >=20 From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137717115917449 (code B ref 14627); Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2013 11:32:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47104 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCT82-0004XN-HW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:32:38 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:60699) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCT7z-0004XD-B1 for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:32:36 -0400 Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.85.251]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LzKyn-1W78Hx2S6T-014U8c for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:32:33 +0200 From: Stephen Berman References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:32:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> ("Jan \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Dj\=C3\=A4rv\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:56:14 +0200") Message-ID: <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:b28hCcAhHSaHH/WcJHrw03S66noDZ1tysSQupz/89GMgA9SFNtI HcK7mlL6lBM5DUB7mic2owJeMZiqAzk4dkXn/RcAwyZ8/Jqkl9ZixrtOWjXWFAZr8eh6BV6 0s5xD++cAPbh0PKg7glgEyGEaDvRKndVGhMwE8ghw6hYJHROj/OWgFrTyx99XZXqTDYHHJC 3PEShFReTK2sFot+PqqoQ== X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:56:14 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrot= e: > Hello. > > 15 jun 2013 kl. 16:22 skrev Karl Brodowsky : > >>=20 >> What I do: >> start emacs >> maximize the window >> split with C-x 3 >> open a directory with C-x C-f /tmp >> click on left and right half of emacs >> The height of my emacs frame shrinks a little bit every time I do so, so >> I am loosing about one line of text when clicking to the left half and >> back to the right half. > > I can't reproduce this on OpenSuse 12.3, with 24.2 or the trunk. > What dont do you use, and what is your screen size? > You did not mention what window manager you run, I used kwin.=20 I don't see the shrinking with the OP's recipe, but I do see it if, instead of `C-x C-f /tmp RET', I do `C-h i' to open Info: switching between the Info and scratch windows shrinks the maximized frame vertically. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.3 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.4) of 2013-08-07 on rosalinde Bzr revision: 113738 eliz@gnu.org-20130807151423-mhw4d72032gg0eho Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11203000 System Description: openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Qt: 4.8.4 KDE Development Platform: 4.9.5 "release 4" KWin: 4.9.5 "release 4" Configured using: `configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars CFLAGS=3D-g3 -O0' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dlocal locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Steve Berman (I may not be able to follow up for a week or so.) From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137717229919187 (code B ref 14627); Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2013 11:51:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTQQ-0004zO-EC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:51:38 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:53467) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTQO-0004zE-8A for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:51:36 -0400 Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.85.251]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LbdiB-1VwlLR2j8N-00lADB for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:51:35 +0200 From: Stephen Berman References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:51:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> (Stephen Berman's message of "Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:32:30 +0200") Message-ID: <871u5muenu.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:cmgNDf3YJbC2DepqZ31Y1mmG5Bb1Aq9NWY9rsbAGdI9naAGamlj OwbNFlLIsnSlPXnGYzjTPokOy7UwVYFwNXJ/21OnLuccbvpXRNzrY2Z5UZPpvSysV72l88R eYNiaq5uTUlqWaOCKjHck4cqqY5fdLlZJmXcisevBA8x6eYwmL/+JTLETkuriC31u2I81h3 3W8gPFuoU2y8hyHvJzNPA== X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:32:30 +0200 Stephen Berman = wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:56:14 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wr= ote: > >> Hello. >> >> 15 jun 2013 kl. 16:22 skrev Karl Brodowsky : >> >>>=20 >>> What I do: >>> start emacs >>> maximize the window >>> split with C-x 3 >>> open a directory with C-x C-f /tmp >>> click on left and right half of emacs >>> The height of my emacs frame shrinks a little bit every time I do so, so >>> I am loosing about one line of text when clicking to the left half and >>> back to the right half. >> >> I can't reproduce this on OpenSuse 12.3, with 24.2 or the trunk. >> What dont do you use, and what is your screen size? >> You did not mention what window manager you run, I used kwin.=20 > > I don't see the shrinking with the OP's recipe, but I do see it if, > instead of `C-x C-f /tmp RET', I do `C-h i' to open Info: switching > between the Info and scratch windows shrinks the maximized frame > vertically. > > In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.3 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.4) > of 2013-08-07 on rosalinde > Bzr revision: 113738 eliz@gnu.org-20130807151423-mhw4d72032gg0eho > Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11203000 > System Description: openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) > > Qt: 4.8.4 > KDE Development Platform: 4.9.5 "release 4" > KWin: 4.9.5 "release 4" > > Configured using: > `configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars CFLAGS=3D-g3 -O0' > > Important settings: > value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 > value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dlocal > locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix > default enable-multibyte-characters: t > > Steve Berman > (I may not be able to follow up for a week or so.) One quick followup: the shrinking happens with (at least) this font: xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137717281020006 (code B ref 14627); Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2013 12:00:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47137 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTYe-0005Ca-IQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:00:09 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:59387) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTYY-0005BT-4q for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:00:03 -0400 Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.85.251]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ldttv-1VuZsp1vW7-00j3aL for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:00:01 +0200 From: Stephen Berman References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <871u5muenu.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:59:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871u5muenu.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> (Stephen Berman's message of "Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:51:33 +0200") Message-ID: <87wqneszpc.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:xt8lwDJ0R0uM2cJ5KB4GssO6itnfyNFhspJkrofRNIadjSGPDuQ WxZmH9vy+0HXWzOcqdLSp4ySwNA27y2Eb/+ngOBsuDTyUb+1K7/JnhTlAp2r6wD1SZoteO5 XFcGufOpDZq9Pv0N4disb03utNUbz+8BoJi4+m/zcXzbGRe9BAxoU6bsCU/REkRaIDwTWfA vFOP/Qy8EjOdO1Xkxsntw== X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:51:33 +0200 Stephen Berman = wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:32:30 +0200 Stephen Berman wrote: > >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:56:14 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv w= rote: >> >>> Hello. >>> >>> 15 jun 2013 kl. 16:22 skrev Karl Brodowsky : >>> >>>>=20 >>>> What I do: >>>> start emacs >>>> maximize the window >>>> split with C-x 3 >>>> open a directory with C-x C-f /tmp >>>> click on left and right half of emacs >>>> The height of my emacs frame shrinks a little bit every time I do so, = so >>>> I am loosing about one line of text when clicking to the left half and >>>> back to the right half. >>> >>> I can't reproduce this on OpenSuse 12.3, with 24.2 or the trunk. >>> What dont do you use, and what is your screen size? >>> You did not mention what window manager you run, I used kwin.=20 >> >> I don't see the shrinking with the OP's recipe, but I do see it if, >> instead of `C-x C-f /tmp RET', I do `C-h i' to open Info: switching >> between the Info and scratch windows shrinks the maximized frame >> vertically. >> >> In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.3 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.4) >> of 2013-08-07 on rosalinde >> Bzr revision: 113738 eliz@gnu.org-20130807151423-mhw4d72032gg0eho >> Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.112030= 00 >> System Description: openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) >> >> Qt: 4.8.4 >> KDE Development Platform: 4.9.5 "release 4" >> KWin: 4.9.5 "release 4" >> >> Configured using: >> `configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars CFLAGS=3D-g3 -O0' >> >> Important settings: >> value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 >> value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dlocal >> locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix >> default enable-multibyte-characters: t >> >> Steve Berman >> (I may not be able to follow up for a week or so.) > > One quick followup: the shrinking happens with (at least) this font: > > xft:-unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-m-0-iso1064= 6-1 And another quick followup: The shrinking does not happen when the tool bar is detached or tool-bar-mode is turned off. Steve Berman From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137717376121432 (code B ref 14627); Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2013 12:16:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTo1-0005ZW-B4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:16:01 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:58215) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTny-0005ZL-Nn for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:15:59 -0400 Received: from [62.47.59.214] ([62.47.59.214]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Meh8S-1VRyNh2kB6-00OFzj for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:15:57 +0200 Message-ID: <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:15:55 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:DdtOD5N1WQv6qmQ958u7qgCp3dFe70e4IHXLwRdwpSaFIh2p+n2 s/BAb9DRP5imxviM+l0jDWcN9WM1Cl0yk2kRFUomZl3th2Vd44WZDmQZtAvdUsz8ZCzSKbt le3pWO4VryBn9NlD9HG9lFo5CI7CGRISRS8dzWnugVOvewrlYhuPIWvBMxG55vcll7xnGwt fCIQY/aoYFm8OYdxAybog== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I don't see the shrinking with the OP's recipe, but I do see it if, > instead of `C-x C-f /tmp RET', I do `C-h i' to open Info: switching > between the Info and scratch windows shrinks the maximized frame > vertically. Does the frame shrink more and more when you repeatedly switch to info? Or does it shrink just once and stick to that size afterwards? martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137717435222365 (code B ref 14627); Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2013 12:25:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47167 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTxX-0005oe-Fg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:25:51 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:61904) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCTxT-0005oS-Td for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:25:48 -0400 Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.85.251]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQeET-1VeN0u3ezV-00U075 for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:25:46 +0200 From: Stephen Berman References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:25:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:15:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:v5zCS3F4XX0pthJnD6R7TJBsCDIAqBkhAVCuE8z9QO74IA2cv8A wYTcBvca2qvY8Xe5DttfsbEVIapuhFPOreHJzsDwVoGNFZynz6tnjR/YtbDoXT+JTk3Y9yn e3a8kqn9PANSwXFU0bR/B994bzs6LFElaRzUOJLjdRT9usdzoC8F1aFvFlwDH+z2RJ3uykP bjhOJu8IEiCXNfhQopX4g== X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:15:55 +0200 martin rudalics wrote: >> I don't see the shrinking with the OP's recipe, but I do see it if, >> instead of `C-x C-f /tmp RET', I do `C-h i' to open Info: switching >> between the Info and scratch windows shrinks the maximized frame >> vertically. > > Does the frame shrink more and more when you repeatedly switch to info? > Or does it shrink just once and stick to that size afterwards? > > martin It keeps shrinking (window-height decreases by one each time), until the minibuffer is no longer displayable, then it stops shrinking. Steve Berman From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.13772418241652 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 07:10:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VClVn-0000QZ-LO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 03:10:24 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:54609) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VClVk-0000QO-JN for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 03:10:21 -0400 Received: from [62.47.51.135] ([62.47.51.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MgpmG-1VQ3AJ321Y-00M4Je for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:10:19 +0200 Message-ID: <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:10:16 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:J3wDILg/f6i/y0WeVYVWyqc98pq64euBoCv0xaRXo7hCKV6OVzU l5Ucxur8kz655T+R9D/GSH5ACI9yj+no+VwgE81yM+a9KzYgMZDGCD0JaTdxzShPp2HaO8T onOZQGwrpe26qKnu80eLWK+t6XnBtxSK7zIRwVjLqRNi62mvv/Jmx/fqUGYNRbdfwf8O7Lq 9Xf+5HbWE+toj+0GB/FQg== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > It keeps shrinking (window-height decreases by one each time), until the > minibuffer is no longer displayable, then it stops shrinking. I think we have two bugs here: (1) A maximized frame should never shrink due to a font change. (2) There seems to be a rounding error present which always chooses to shrink the frame when changing the toolbar size. If Jan does not find the cause of these, maybe someone who can reproduce the problem could step in so we can debug it? martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137724604412084 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 08:20:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCmbn-00038k-Ca for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:20:43 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:47587) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCmbg-00038T-OS for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:20:37 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRZ00C005KWFO00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:20:31 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRZ00CH75U6A4A0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:20:31 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:20:34 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:10:16 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky > > I think we have two bugs here: I think we have three. > (1) A maximized frame should never shrink due to a font change. > > (2) There seems to be a rounding error present which always chooses to > shrink the frame when changing the toolbar size. (3) Why does a frame change its size when one clicks on it? From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137724815315433 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 08:55:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49440 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCn9q-00040p-FL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:55:52 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:56191) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCn9m-00040d-59 for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:55:47 -0400 Received: from [62.47.51.135] ([62.47.51.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MKHik-1VB8zu1Uda-001i2j for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:55:44 +0200 Message-ID: <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:55:38 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:OxZeljksbSCPq4F02120wIuqs1bc9h+cdgYs5rxCA80OMHpCNFZ RFrOXFzm1Cc7sy+O8q7OJqAIvN5s/rfY5EiJXqlrVe6WhMG0VbXmU9YlrwVTSKNGiz7jzPM 9w3T7Q+zlvfz6Q9AzE2y+0ItheEjzvaDeIKOd4JSXYBp1o52j3rLI5a23ds9aSinRYKR9iD 89plaOfrLx0VJhEn87+nw== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > (3) Why does a frame change its size when one clicks on it? The OP says that he clicks "to the left half and back to the right half" which here translates to switches from one window to the other. Together with Stephen's observations this seems to indicate that the toolbar contents change, probably with a different default font. And since Emacs can change the frame size when changing a font size ... martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137724994918231 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 09:25:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49459 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCncq-0004jy-4E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 05:25:48 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:34003) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCncm-0004jo-9U for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 05:25:45 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRZ004008TJ2100@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:25:42 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRZ003YM8UPX790@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:25:38 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:25:41 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:55:38 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net > > > (3) Why does a frame change its size when one clicks on it? > > The OP says that he clicks "to the left half and back to the right half" > which here translates to switches from one window to the other. > Together with Stephen's observations this seems to indicate that the > toolbar contents change, probably with a different default font. And > since Emacs can change the frame size when changing a font size ... The toolbar displays no text (at least on my system), only images, so font size should have no significance, only the sizes of the images should matter. And why would the _default_ font size in two windows of the same frame be different, anyway, when the recipe includes no commands that should have any effect on the font? Anyway, does the toolbar really change its size in this recipe? It doesn't on my system. So sorry, but I still think there's some mystery here. Putting a breakpoint in the relevant primitives and showing the C and Lisp backtraces when those break might show what am I missing. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137725330223529 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 10:21:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49520 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCoUw-00067P-9x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:21:42 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:49878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCoUj-000673-Ik for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:21:40 -0400 Received: from [62.47.51.135] ([62.47.51.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LcEPJ-1VtX5x0Uk9-00jZ61 for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:21:28 +0200 Message-ID: <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:21:25 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:MusKRTxDpNxJ/Gi1QkAcwbUKawyAk3VlJVF14lLKy3Iar30khRy V6FU7vKYqD71WuOAs4YCVU1qaQYqZrMLpMkL2twoqABQXKNkuw9ZEj9oHc5zEJAlDS8+4rj utBJ3iIgd0SkOCyFbpbp7NnDmDhh5Zhowk5Zf2aOrxIKV2Frw4kUFA/7oF7IGr1WfVp8iMq OXKR/Hkgz0NCYzYraOhtQ== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > The toolbar displays no text (at least on my system), only images, so > font size should have no significance, only the sizes of the images > should matter. IIUC when I change the default font size on Windows, the frame's line height changes and the pixel size of the toolbar changes too. On Windows this won't matter, but when an external toolbar changes size it might and trigger the rounding effect I mentioned earlier. But maybe you're right and it's the images that change size. > And why would the _default_ font size in two windows > of the same frame be different, anyway, when the recipe includes no > commands that should have any effect on the font? More so because windows don't have a default face. The OP uses cyrillic and Stephen invokes Info, could these give a clue? Can face remapping or buffer local faces have any impact? > Anyway, does the toolbar really change its size in this recipe? It > doesn't on my system. According to Stephen the toolbar matters. I don't know about the OP but at least he has `tool-bar-mode' turned on. > So sorry, but I still think there's some mystery here. Putting a > breakpoint in the relevant primitives and showing the C and Lisp > backtraces when those break might show what am I missing. Right. martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137725400524808 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:34:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 10:33:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCogG-0006S3-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:33:24 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:37847) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCogD-0006Rt-Dk for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:33:22 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRZ00400BYN9E00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:33:19 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRZ004CLBZI7U20@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:33:19 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:33:23 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:21:25 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net > > > The toolbar displays no text (at least on my system), only images, so > > font size should have no significance, only the sizes of the images > > should matter. > > IIUC when I change the default font size on Windows, the frame's line > height changes and the pixel size of the toolbar changes too. On > Windows this won't matter, but when an external toolbar changes size it > might and trigger the rounding effect I mentioned earlier. But maybe > you're right and it's the images that change size. If the toolbar is not drawn by Emacs (a.k.a. "external toolbar"), how can any changes in Emacs's default font change the size of the toolbar? I'd need to see a recipe for that, and also some explanation from someone who understands how that external toolbar works and what, if anything, does its size have to do with the Emacs fonts. > > And why would the _default_ font size in two windows > > of the same frame be different, anyway, when the recipe includes no > > commands that should have any effect on the font? > > More so because windows don't have a default face. ??? Of course, they do: they start with the frame's defaults. > The OP uses cyrillic and Stephen invokes Info, could these give a > clue? I don't think so, certainly not with Info. > Can face remapping or buffer local faces have any impact? Yes, they can. But the recipe didn't include any face remapping. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137725476926130 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 10:46:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49586 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCosb-0006nO-1v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:46:09 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:64454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCosY-0006nD-4B for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 06:46:06 -0400 Received: from [62.47.51.135] ([62.47.51.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lm7MT-1Vlsa53Tk1-00Ze6M for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:46:05 +0200 Message-ID: <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:46:01 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pv0ChN8KkTZRMEayhWsmraFXqnqZhoH1kv3PdsW9Vye8nLra4Zh sAoZLAuaVhOTZIPd1ii7NoU2s6kRZjiggNN0hyI4Z7zQd17w8rJKgaLfffYC/JpZKDiQCaA oLae82f4rlEiMUzSRtODlKpt1W+TPTeJDt1yNOZZuzNi+/mwC5g41jQzuoOeejTeEca4Xgz 69feuEiCBi7SXagYgUKVw== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> More so because windows don't have a default face. > > ??? Of course, they do: they start with the frame's defaults. What I wanted to state here is that two windows on the same frame can't have different default faces. >> The OP uses cyrillic and Stephen invokes Info, could these give a >> clue? > > I don't think so, certainly not with Info. Info has a special toolbar. martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137725624028455 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 11:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 11:10:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49629 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCpGK-0007Os-3Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:10:40 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:39897) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCpGG-0007Oi-Ds for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:10:38 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRZ00400DFHDF00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:10:34 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRZ004HFDPM7U80@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:10:34 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:10:38 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:46:01 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net > > >> The OP uses cyrillic and Stephen invokes Info, could these give a > >> clue? > > > > I don't think so, certainly not with Info. > > Info has a special toolbar. Right, but we already talked about that: only image sizes can change the toolbar's size. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: martin rudalics , bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137727494030110 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 16:22:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCu7v-0007pX-H7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:49129) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCu7t-0007pH-AY for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:22:18 -0400 Received: (qmail 25930 invoked by uid 89); 23 Aug 2013 16:22:15 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 23 Aug 2013 16:22:15 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (unknown [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F4261A0198; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:22:16 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello. 23 aug 2013 kl. 13:10 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:46:01 +0200 >> From: martin rudalics >> CC: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net >>=20 >>>> The OP uses cyrillic and Stephen invokes Info, could these give a >>>> clue? >>>=20 >>> I don't think so, certainly not with Info. >>=20 >> Info has a special toolbar. >=20 > Right, but we already talked about that: only image sizes can change > the toolbar's size. In 99 cases out of 100 these cases are due to either the inherent race = in wm_size_hints or bugs in the window manager. In this case it is = probably the latter. I suspect the tool bar changes for the OP. That makes Emacs send new = wm_size_hints to the window manager, telling it what the base- and = increment sizes are. If the tool bar changes, the base size changes = (the size not counted against resize increments, i.e. font size). = Normally a window manager shall then make sure Emacs frame has the = appropriate size, i.e. height =3D base_y + inc_y * n where n is an integer. But in this case the frame is maximized, so the window manager should do = nothing, like all other window managers. A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is = maximized or fullscreen. Jan D. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, bk1@gmx.net, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.13772795659213 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 17:39:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50570 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvKV-0002OU-Kq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:39:24 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:54620) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvKT-0002OK-Ag for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:39:22 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRZ00D00VK1KA00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:39:19 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRZ00D53VPIJI20@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:39:19 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:39:23 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Jan Djärv > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:22:16 +0200 > Cc: martin rudalics , > 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, > bk1@gmx.net, > stephen.berman@gmx.net > > A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is maximized or fullscreen. I think we should take that workaround. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Karl Brodowsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: martin rudalics , Eli Zaretskii , stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137728037210488 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 17:52:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvXX-0002j6-Or for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:52:51 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:59221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvXV-0002iw-Cz for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:52:50 -0400 Received: from mauersegler.tiere ([217.192.94.115]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LlDx4-1VkLPd2NPi-00b3n2 for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:52:47 +0200 Message-ID: <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:55:28 +0200 From: Karl Brodowsky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> In-Reply-To: <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:kodLR6uSVJLXb2H07fVmsW3bgqf3/wEPoBQ8ZG8EPQCu1DvqLKX 8OBRNoUXLXXLVOQVFN9pNgiJlKXmd7xjtahOEdBjPwbFpL51nMzHWF4KX36HTu8Hxxy3IHO sk6CiT4/2hOiiOOaJzwC5qWF5ITeomhbqbvh8f0uzNeQz3gCLyf6Dvv8AM+MQ4IJcWgaI7F 7MDxNLVQpvpkobgyDmtxA== X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) | A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is maximized or fullscreen. Jan D. Since this seems to be an issue with KDE4, which is not so uncommon as window manager, I would agree. Karl From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, bk1@gmx.net, Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137728053310774 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 17:55:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCva8-0002nh-6s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:55:32 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:65336) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvZr-0002nC-IB for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:55:28 -0400 Received: from [62.47.47.0] ([62.47.47.0]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MfVzj-1VRazC47Dv-00P8EE for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:55:14 +0200 Message-ID: <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:55:07 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:YSF+h1cqm7DFJoAc+g9oC/xhhsxfJ3J5kDnRoYQYdfHWsVUnDbV L5CZu2LNAWWtOA6eKWdZpFqqNplQgcRxnu43N/Ghtz63VP/0KB8yZuxLQCVFClMltrJ4tP+ GGZHmidJ7iEqG1fuKyCm2FG/z3FHhfqPQdWqMR7TIzU7d1InuLg13I0huf4cI5jdad72bje eZtRn0bn7bArRbi4YKEVA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is maximized or fullscreen. > > I think we should take that workaround. I'm afraid this won't help always. According to Stephen the frame "keeps shrinking (window-height decreases by one each time), until the minibuffer is no longer displayable, then it stops shrinking". So in his case the frame has ceased to be maximized for quite some time. martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , stephen.berman@gmx.net, bk1@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137728069711045 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 17:58:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvcm-0002s5-H6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:58:16 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:49921) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvck-0002rt-AZ for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:58:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 31210 invoked by uid 89); 23 Aug 2013 17:58:12 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 23 Aug 2013 17:58:12 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (unknown [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E76FD1A026F; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:58:13 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5FEF07ED-E8FB-4A39-9C27-7B70AD7C4EFC@swipnet.se> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello. 23 aug 2013 kl. 19:55 skrev martin rudalics : > >> A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is = maximized or fullscreen. > > > > I think we should take that workaround. >=20 > I'm afraid this won't help always. According to Stephen the frame > "keeps shrinking (window-height decreases by one each time), until the > minibuffer is no longer displayable, then it stops shrinking". So in > his case the frame has ceased to be maximized for quite some time. I don't understand your reasoning. If we prevent the shrinking from = maximized, how is that not solving the problem? Jan D. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Karl Brodowsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137728081011298 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 18:00:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCveb-0002vm-3I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:00:09 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:54447) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCveV-0002v8-FI for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:00:05 -0400 Received: from mauersegler.tiere ([217.192.94.115]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lb5Tp-1Vwgep1YoD-00kixb for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: <5217A3C4.60102@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:02:44 +0200 From: Karl Brodowsky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:H3rqYPYLrt6se7sbTAUHxmMZEpoo2YDiHMFnpb1vILjYjGh+Ws6 9KS5+3dYr+FLDx56sqnzStNNcwmToZZKASBpQJjooxk5gQqHnVM7+SxPQ8gkRR5kOos7jnQ ENplDCVN8ukwKPWyXv2NOc9y39TxptelI7+w/fLV5pl+ya6jn+4RBimqEZ/hNcceMV71WtC NqS+595CwemF/xLhOSGtA== X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) On 08/23/13 19:55, martin rudalics wrote: > >> A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is > maximized or fullscreen. > > > > I think we should take that workaround. > > I'm afraid this won't help always. According to Stephen the frame > "keeps shrinking (window-height decreases by one each time), until the > minibuffer is no longer displayable, then it stops shrinking". So in > his case the frame has ceased to be maximized for quite some time. But if the first shrink moves Emacs out of the "maximized" state, then this should help, because the first shrink would not happen. But for non-maximized-emacs-frames the issue remains. Karl From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , stephen.berman@gmx.net, bk1@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137728119111905 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 18:06:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvkl-00035x-6c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:06:31 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:63965) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvkj-00035n-22 for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:06:29 -0400 Received: from [62.47.47.0] ([62.47.47.0]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MS5Dm-1Vf1Y11pAw-00TC8J for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:06:27 +0200 Message-ID: <5217A49F.1040600@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:06:23 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> <5FEF07ED-E8FB-4A39-9C27-7B70AD7C4EFC@swipnet.se> In-Reply-To: <5FEF07ED-E8FB-4A39-9C27-7B70AD7C4EFC@swipnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pMbXsXq9ClISYDKTTlu8+1tV424Qk3RlIyDCDKqnkIFdt23GKDa +npG+NJpqZTN+yMgEZmjHtKHzOfW52sY1YiVGkn5TwVFh3mqx1gANfC8eySHU+t9uWVqS2H dV4KVQHjdvVhcLrlcjAdgjlfVu5oMNA6DGsxlpjHBpz+ifr3xcGECImsbdZVLBDnmCezAUk 7hgIn9kt6Jbxis5Hr58Lw== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I don't understand your reasoning. If we prevent the shrinking from maximized, how is that not solving the problem? Because apparently a frame may shrink in a non-maximized state too (maybe maximization is always needed to trigger the process but I wouldn't be sure). martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Karl Brodowsky Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137728119711923 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 18:06:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50627 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvkq-00036F-H4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:06:36 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:58180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvko-000366-Cm for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:06:34 -0400 Received: from [62.47.47.0] ([62.47.47.0]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lu8Ri-1WAlrj0fHa-011Q8G for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:06:33 +0200 Message-ID: <5217A4A4.6050400@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:06:28 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> <5217A3C4.60102@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <5217A3C4.60102@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:DFoRG6F/BrF1gVrqXpWR5lEUEDsPLE2/GBpNJ31hGCAI4htC14F qdwmsHahaBezGF4gw//MlGk3EPIfQAn0q2fVd8tCTKBr+o6GUVYjfj9A486KhlzgCP4MD7H b01o3E0phFhAhQFKxPH5cVHqsc78h9tSQOMrSePEXwtcx3BuDbNh28J/7R82XAWV8uOWlAa XTzmf/8/7vDUiCVeVmp4w== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > But for non-maximized-emacs-frames the issue remains. Can you produce the shrinking in a non-maximized state? martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Karl Brodowsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137728151912414 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2013 18:11:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvq2-0003E8-Nu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:11:59 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:51115) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VCvpz-0003Dz-Mr for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:11:56 -0400 Received: from mauersegler.tiere ([217.192.94.115]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJjUO-1VBpNO1YZA-001AyW for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:11:54 +0200 Message-ID: <5217A68C.1070403@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:14:36 +0200 From: Karl Brodowsky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> <5217A3C4.60102@gmx.net> <5217A4A4.6050400@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <5217A4A4.6050400@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:c584RJkiZWhbYo3nHDlW2eFFVcatsKkbLBU8Uy4lEqYzbL7LOzK uJ9i9mXNJjO82rt8xQ3Q5m0yACqz5GmKJfA2Cf379/mLvyEYIfVCB2o4Gc3BmtcpHlrMsET eyAyym0Jw0kVo+aYSHTwP0RJEmRTL1EUkFv2oTRd4Xa220/k0LxWiu8agrKu58qvSR7s8lo rcypyaiC/wf7uSuArrhHQ== X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) On 08/23/13 20:06, martin rudalics wrote: >> But for non-maximized-emacs-frames the issue remains. > > Can you produce the shrinking in a non-maximized state? No, in non-maximized state it behaves well. If it is no maximized, but using up the whole height (or as much as I can use up), I see a shrinking by one line and then it remains stable, with some flickering, or let's say shrinking and growing by a few pixels, but in the end when I click back and forth many times there is no major change in size observable. Karl From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Karl Brodowsky Cc: martin rudalics , Eli Zaretskii , stephen.berman@gmx.net, 14627@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137733391511703 (code B ref 14627); Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2013 08:45:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VD9T9-000322-3m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 04:45:15 -0400 Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:52905) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VD9T6-0002w1-6a for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 04:45:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 341 invoked by uid 89); 24 Aug 2013 08:45:09 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 24 Aug 2013 08:45:09 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (unknown [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 949BF1A0017; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:45:09 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Hello. 23 aug 2013 kl. 19:55 skrev Karl Brodowsky : > | A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is > maximized or fullscreen. Jan D. > Since this seems to be an issue with KDE4, which is not so uncommon as > window manager, I would agree. >=20 I've checked in the workaround. As I haven't seen the problem I don't = know if it does anything, so please test it. Thanks, Jan D. From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Karl Brodowsky Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , stephen.berman@gmx.net Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.137733454915425 (code B ref 14627); Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2013 08:55:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VD9dL-00040h-GW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 04:55:48 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:64237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VD9dE-00040N-G6 for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 04:55:41 -0400 Received: from [62.47.46.10] ([62.47.46.10]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LomuB-1VghxQ0L5H-00gqbL for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:55:39 +0200 Message-ID: <52187506.7090406@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:55:34 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <83bo4oi9x0.fsf@gnu.org> <5217A1FB.8070903@gmx.at> <5217A3C4.60102@gmx.net> <5217A4A4.6050400@gmx.at> <5217A68C.1070403@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <5217A68C.1070403@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:o8A5bj4ZpoJ8v2B7MuNGho9cyhbVl9DDRd+ms2qbJ9zWWlm6iUw xgMF/kwlm+IqmE8qVdCu3wxAQvBE9BAmxGyJrdclTPxFBM4OvxZR8FJrdDZRMdssQ9Y1ej9 4PWgpNIxvAvaY12Oahfjx5UzI7HhELdUd+B/fJJNLXEYpgcXatJQ1ihncNXDrtHRamX3s/L 3akLuTD3GqQwd8cuOJ9tw== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > If it is no maximized, but using up the whole height (or as much as I > can use up), I see a shrinking by one line and then it remains stable, > with some flickering, or let's say shrinking and growing by a few > pixels, but in the end when I click back and forth many times there is > no major change in size observable. Do the behaviors you describe (maximized/non-maximized) occur when you turn off `tool-bar-mode'? If so, does the toolbar change its contents and/or height when you switch windows? Does it occur when you use C-x o instead of clicking with the mouse? Does the toolbar change when both windows display the same buffer? Can you reproduce the behavior with emacs -Q? Can you see the behavior described by Stephen in this thread? martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 21:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Eli Zaretskii , martin rudalics Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.13786746075181 (code B ref 14627); Sun, 08 Sep 2013 21:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2013 21:10:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VImFB-0001LU-57 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 17:10:05 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:64331) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VImF7-0001Ku-HX for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 17:10:02 -0400 Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.87.40]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MSutp-1VQdwU0thV-00RpnZ for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:09:55 +0200 From: Stephen Berman References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:09:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> ("Jan \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Dj\=C3\=A4rv\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:45:09 +0200") Message-ID: <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eyLXUq/5uS8yE0xbXHJZByUgKrJYop8e1maphL46JtLoBy392wv +/fe2g1u+2vHK0AfG4q4nD6Pcsx/SWFDfB7PX8ihyv3FbXZ5ZDwaX/6rv1A/S+fvZrD4yQR mwBwHO+/4hKFtNUpl2rJxgARzwuyKvt5Zbon4J0PKPTiArpw+31UT5qmEh/c5ArFqvCBZkR 8WaEw32x3oTbE/m9MVRrw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:45:09 +0200 Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrot= e: > Hello. > > 23 aug 2013 kl. 19:55 skrev Karl Brodowsky : > >> | A possible workaround is not to update size hints when Emacs is >> maximized or fullscreen. Jan D. >> Since this seems to be an issue with KDE4, which is not so uncommon as >> window manager, I would agree. >>=20 > > I've checked in the workaround. As I haven't seen the problem I don't kn= ow if > it does anything, so please test it. I've now updated and confirm that with the recipe I gave -- frame maximized with side by side windows, one containing an Info buffer -- switching between the windows no longer causes the frame to shrink vertically. The only oddity is that when the Info buffer is selected there is an empty space the width of the frame one line high below the minibuffer. However, there is still a shrinking problem. In KDE clicking the frame's (i.e. WM window's) maximize button with mouse-2 instead of mouse-1 maximizes the frame vertically but not horizontally. When I do this, then split windows (either vertically or horizontally), open an Info buffer in one window and switch between the windows, then the frame still (i.e. even with your patch) shrinks vertically by one line for each switch back to the Info buffer. If I drag the border of an unmaximized frame to make it vertically fill the desktop and repeat the recipe, no shrinking occurs. And if I maximize the frame horizontally by clicking the maximize button with mouse-3 and repeat the recipe, there is also no shrinking. Steve Berman From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.13787280506762 (code B ref 14627); Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2013 12:00:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJ09C-0001l0-De for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:00:50 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:55688) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJ099-0001ki-U8 for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:00:48 -0400 Received: from [62.47.39.60] ([62.47.39.60]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MMkgl-1VKMGE0PFP-008YfJ for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:00:41 +0200 Message-ID: <522DB861.1080202@gmx.at> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:00:33 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:CW39AAGicAMlv6MiP51MXa5znl0ofuQocWRv4H6wOZwOR9+wYFy JOFqiQUEgop6gnHa0QQ6DWRqbKsi55cHBDnhvAd0Nrh7TiRZzmZn0O+6ZUjdyQLa3TlN63q 13kIMCcjESr+yVL/3hFhtRwgLeVyV0Oh9sgFAdJaQvZIlQfMnQbEBClFehu4QgDpI7z7W13 XaUx/su3dafDG5QpOYE5Q== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > The only oddity is that when the Info buffer is selected > there is an empty space the width of the frame one line high below the > minibuffer. Which disappears when you demaximize the frame, I suppose. > However, there is still a shrinking problem. In KDE clicking the > frame's (i.e. WM window's) maximize button with mouse-2 instead of > mouse-1 maximizes the frame vertically but not horizontally. When I do > this, then split windows (either vertically or horizontally), open an > Info buffer in one window and switch between the windows, then the frame > still (i.e. even with your patch) shrinks vertically by one line for > each switch back to the Info buffer. If I drag the border of an > unmaximized frame to make it vertically fill the desktop and repeat the > recipe, no shrinking occurs. And if I maximize the frame horizontally > by clicking the maximize button with mouse-3 and repeat the recipe, > there is also no shrinking. IIUC in his patch Jan fixed only the fully maximized and the fullscreen cases. So what you see is the old behavior for the partially maximized case. martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.13787294388883 (code B ref 14627); Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2013 12:23:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50113 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJ0VZ-0002JC-Cb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:23:57 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:60589) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VJ0VW-0002Ix-KE for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:23:55 -0400 Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.96.197]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M9ra4-1V7xtb3SWG-00B7HE for <14627@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:23:48 +0200 From: Stephen Berman References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <522DB861.1080202@gmx.at> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:23:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <522DB861.1080202@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:00:33 +0200") Message-ID: <87vc2anpyk.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:8NtKRY8wPLU9yxmHmdT7whW046CuoYaPFahvfDZbBOe1Wye8T6G qTBxXOqNA17iUWEexepbT2VNoPf2M0/DoVayAmgA8ZipVK4MY/stpkU+y6qoHQRrEdCQ9Q5 hmtDLwYO/Lm92m5+mRvCAK0t7OKBoWSTMqNNDYLWdwIjJR8+bWszNLIZb0LKBdDHli2x7pu opX338yMK6iT5uC0xXqEQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:00:33 +0200 martin rudalics wrote: >> The only oddity is that when the Info buffer is selected >> there is an empty space the width of the frame one line high below the >> minibuffer. > > Which disappears when you demaximize the frame, I suppose. If I demaximize the frame while the Info buffer is selected and the empty line is displayed, then the latter remains visible. But it disappears after switching to the other buffer, and, with the frame demaximized, when I switch back to the Info buffer again, it now no longer reappears. Moreover, if I now maximize the frame again, with the same window configuration, the empty line still doesn't reappear. In fact, it turns out that it only appears if I maximize the frame before opening Info the first time; if I then kill the Info buffer with the frame still maximized and then open Info again, the empty line no longer appears. >> However, there is still a shrinking problem. In KDE clicking the >> frame's (i.e. WM window's) maximize button with mouse-2 instead of >> mouse-1 maximizes the frame vertically but not horizontally. When I do >> this, then split windows (either vertically or horizontally), open an >> Info buffer in one window and switch between the windows, then the frame >> still (i.e. even with your patch) shrinks vertically by one line for >> each switch back to the Info buffer. If I drag the border of an >> unmaximized frame to make it vertically fill the desktop and repeat the >> recipe, no shrinking occurs. And if I maximize the frame horizontally >> by clicking the maximize button with mouse-3 and repeat the recipe, >> there is also no shrinking. > > IIUC in his patch Jan fixed only the fully maximized and the fullscreen > cases. So what you see is the old behavior for the partially maximized > case. That's also what I assumed. Steve Berman From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.142385184832738 (code B ref 14627); Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2015 18:24:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42121 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMKuN-0008Vx-K7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:24:07 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:65361) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMKuL-0008VT-KE for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:24:06 -0500 Received: from [88.117.117.6] ([88.117.117.6]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LlpJU-1XnHCa3XKy-00ZTDE; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:23:53 +0100 Message-ID: <54DE412F.8050506@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:23:43 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9yAjzPPV5jBXu8XR1kQ8zoc6tJ27OhvTSlZFLKUphJF9FE5N+Vl 09NVEhyiQE48WJfgEGehbcoDQ6wlL9HvBDRNbppUqYnIed/bb3pTyeyH+bJ+0uqLQrowhGA W4ZOM7IMvhjqAa6fcn7YBsuyQzeAci4hCLN+Pgu3CU6PdRh0a6S/9qG83Q7JD3RQ9H9fNnI WjwMnwlY1XwH5yOiVqHUg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I've now updated and confirm that with the recipe I gave -- frame > maximized with side by side windows, one containing an Info buffer -- > switching between the windows no longer causes the frame to shrink > vertically. The only oddity is that when the Info buffer is selected > there is an empty space the width of the frame one line high below the > minibuffer. Does this still happen with current trunk/master? > However, there is still a shrinking problem. In KDE clicking the > frame's (i.e. WM window's) maximize button with mouse-2 instead of > mouse-1 maximizes the frame vertically but not horizontally. When I do > this, then split windows (either vertically or horizontally), open an > Info buffer in one window and switch between the windows, then the frame > still (i.e. even with your patch) shrinks vertically by one line for > each switch back to the Info buffer. If I drag the border of an > unmaximized frame to make it vertically fill the desktop and repeat the > recipe, no shrinking occurs. And if I maximize the frame horizontally > by clicking the maximize button with mouse-3 and repeat the recipe, > there is also no shrinking. And this? martin From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Brodowsky , Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= , Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14627.142400751031533 (code B ref 14627); Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 14627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2015 13:38:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44426 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMzP3-0008CW-8b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 08:38:29 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:60900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMzP1-0008CH-Ln for 14627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 08:38:28 -0500 Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.108.137]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MI4yc-1YQr1612Cc-003rtJ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:38:14 +0100 From: Stephen Berman References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <54DE412F.8050506@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:38:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <54DE412F.8050506@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:23:43 +0100") Message-ID: <87egpr1eij.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:EdXfJvWtr1Kag0B8V9L8JxvY3CwHdkxAM4ISyuk5OZL2H+wsBOu tevs1idQxBrxnZysslI0lNIpO1szEtwGcIAOl5joWQ7RkO6oDM/3IWr6f4gnzSQ28/iV/w7 GCfqjBX0fjs7FKio7kg26+f8zqggzQlZEpWrTaNiuI51VbPTlCkkQNFE8k1zUfa60+6sE62 XZ/sBwVR/rmry3yQHqstg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:23:43 +0100 martin rudalics wrote: >> I've now updated and confirm that with the recipe I gave -- frame >> maximized with side by side windows, one containing an Info buffer -- >> switching between the windows no longer causes the frame to shrink >> vertically. The only oddity is that when the Info buffer is selected >> there is an empty space the width of the frame one line high below the >> minibuffer. > > Does this still happen with current trunk/master? No, I don't see this now. >> However, there is still a shrinking problem. In KDE clicking the >> frame's (i.e. WM window's) maximize button with mouse-2 instead of >> mouse-1 maximizes the frame vertically but not horizontally. When I do >> this, then split windows (either vertically or horizontally), open an >> Info buffer in one window and switch between the windows, then the frame >> still (i.e. even with your patch) shrinks vertically by one line for >> each switch back to the Info buffer. If I drag the border of an >> unmaximized frame to make it vertically fill the desktop and repeat the >> recipe, no shrinking occurs. And if I maximize the frame horizontally >> by clicking the maximize button with mouse-3 and repeat the recipe, >> there is also no shrinking. > > And this? No, I also see no shrinking problem anymore. Steve Berman From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:55:28 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Karl Brodowsky Subject: bug#14627: closed (Re: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking) Message-ID: References: <54E2388E.4010305@gmx.at> <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 14627 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 14627@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:37:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1424111823-28351-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1424111823-28351-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 14627@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 14627: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D14627 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1424111823-28351-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 14627-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2015 18:36:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45576 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YNQWo-0007Lw-Sh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:36:19 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:60118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YNQWl-0007Lh-Ug for 14627-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:36:16 -0500 Received: from [188.22.36.55] ([188.22.36.55]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LlpJU-1XoMku1X4C-00ZTEX; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:36:04 +0100 Message-ID: <54E2388E.4010305@gmx.at> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:35:58 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#14627: 24.2; Vertical frame size shrinking References: <51BC7889.3070902@gmx.net> <7EA23443-C86B-40C3-A43B-0493692943C0@swipnet.se> <8761uyufjl.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <521600FB.5000801@gmx.at> <87siy1ud2w.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <52170AD8.8010001@gmx.at> <83ob8oizsd.fsf@gnu.org> <5217238A.6090500@gmx.at> <83mwo8iwru.fsf@gnu.org> <521737A5.5020700@gmx.at> <83k3jcitn0.fsf@gnu.org> <52173D69.3000104@gmx.at> <83ioywirwx.fsf@gnu.org> <8202DFA0-0B3F-40FC-8773-FC56F965A2D5@swipnet.se> <5217A210.2010608@gmx.net> <774C6AC7-4498-4A1F-A0A1-DFD1517625D4@swipnet.se> <87k3ir3tr2.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <54DE412F.8050506@gmx.at> <87egpr1eij.fsf@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <87egpr1eij.fsf@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:+Q/Mnai+OdR9ZZC3iLJ2nzPCQTKpMXkj1pM5hgB0J+ImMKAMlj6 zPl28Wqer82CJQPyOy6x0kzlcON9lT1seZ7HML5QuvclSXc8bgHXde7bmwlzLDAwu92iKZZ nwwgYc9kjjut2YgfJ65eMDxzSko+eE1JCkqYK3f/Wwie8SfbtYMREtJFLvP/CU8VWM7rQVH XJKDHIg0w7GBNCbpV7R/w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14627-done Cc: Karl Brodowsky , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= , Eli Zaretskii , 14627-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> Does this still happen with current trunk/master? > > No, I don't see this now. [...] >> And this? > > No, I also see no shrinking problem anymore. Then I close this bug. 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:46:53 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.4) of 2013-02-21 on build16 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11302000 Configured using: `configure '--with-pop' '--without-hesiod' '--with-kerberos' '--with-kerberos5' '--with-xim' '--with-wide-int' '--enable-autodepend' '--prefix=/usr' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--with-x' '--with-sound' '--with-sync-input' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' 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disp-table tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) What I do: start emacs maximize the window split with C-x 3 open a directory with C-x C-f /tmp click on left and right half of emacs The height of my emacs frame shrinks a little bit every time I do so, so I am loosing about one line of text when clicking to the left half and back to the right half. ------------=_1424111823-28351-1--