From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:53:27 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14617 <14617@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14617 <14617@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: od - Please add -h option Reply-To: bug#14617 <14617@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:53:27 +0000 retitle 14617 od - Please add -h option reassign 14617 coreutils submitter 14617 Jari Aalto severity 14617 wishlist tag 14617 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 14 04:02:29 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2013 08:02:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43107 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnOxo-0003h1-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 04:02:28 -0400 Received: from emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.116]:52300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnOxk-0003gl-9y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 04:02:25 -0400 Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.96]) by emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D2AD69AE4 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:02:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from emh02.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.108]) by vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.96]) with SMTP (gateway) id A0385474DD4; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:02:22 +0300 Received: from picasso.cante.net (a91-155-188-45.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.188.45]) by emh02.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCF68187B for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:02:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Jari Aalto To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: od - Please add -h option Mail-Copies-To: poster Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:02:21 +0300 Message-ID: <87ppvp5dde.fsf@picasso.cante.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Package: coreutils Version: 8.20-3 Severity: wishlist An example: $ od -h ... hangs Please add options -h, --help like in other GNU tools to display brief synopsis and program description. -- System Information Debian Release: jessie/sid APT Prefers testing APT policy: (990, testing) (500, unstable) Architecture: amd64 Kernel: Linux picasso 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux Locale: LANG=en_DK.UTF-8 -- Versions of packages `coreutils depends on'. Pre-Depends: libacl1 2.2.52-1 Access control list shared library libattr1 1:2.4.47-1 Extended attribute shared library libc6 2.17-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries libselinux1 2.1.13-2 SELinux runtime shared libraries Depends: dpkg 1.16.10 Debian package management system install-info 5.1.dfsg.1-3 Manage installed documentation in info format From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 14 04:48:15 2013 Received: (at 14617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2013 08:48:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43165 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnPg7-0005I8-72 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 04:48:15 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:5362) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnPg3-0005Ho-El; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 04:48:12 -0400 Received: from int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5E8m9B2004684 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 14 Jun 2013 04:48:09 -0400 Received: from [10.36.116.94] (ovpn-116-94.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.94]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5E8m6Gx008339 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jun 2013 04:48:08 -0400 Message-ID: <51BAD8C6.8090602@draigBrady.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:48:06 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E1draig_Brady?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Aalto Subject: Re: bug#14617: od - Please add -h option References: <87ppvp5dde.fsf@picasso.cante.net> In-Reply-To: <87ppvp5dde.fsf@picasso.cante.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.23 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14617 Cc: 14617@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) tag 14617 notabug close 14617 stop On 06/14/2013 09:02 AM, Jari Aalto wrote: > Package: coreutils > Version: 8.20-3 > Severity: wishlist > > An example: > > $ od -h > ... hangs > > Please add options -h, --help like in other GNU tools to display brief > synopsis and program description. od accepts the undocumented/obsolescent -h option as an alias for -x so as to be compatible with older/BSD scripts. od accepts --help and --h like other coreutils to display help. thanks, Pádraig. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 14 05:17:02 2013 Received: (at 14617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2013 09:17:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43231 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnQ7w-0007Rl-SY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 05:17:01 -0400 Received: from emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.116]:36627) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnQ7t-0007Rc-Us for 14617@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 05:16:59 -0400 Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.96]) by emh06.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id 7137C6999A; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:16:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from emh04.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.110]) by vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.96]) with SMTP (gateway) id A03799502F0; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:16:56 +0300 Received: from picasso.cante.net (a91-155-188-45.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.188.45]) by emh04.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FE81A2733; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:16:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: from jaalto by picasso.cante.net with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnQ7q-00006j-RY; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:16:54 +0300 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:16:54 +0300 From: jari.aalto@cante.net To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E1draig_Brady_=3CP=40draigBrady=2Ecom=3E?=@picasso.cante.net Subject: Re: bug#14617: od - Please add -h option Message-ID: <20130614091654.GE21799@picasso.cante.net> References: <87ppvp5dde.fsf@picasso.cante.net> <51BAD8C6.8090602@draigBrady.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51BAD8C6.8090602@draigBrady.com> X-Gpg-Key-Id: 0xD189E680 X-Gpg-Key-Info: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xD189E680 X-Gpg-Key-Get: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD189E680&op=get User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jaalto@picasso.cante.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on picasso.cante.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14617 Cc: 14617@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On 2013-06-14 09:48, P=E1draig Brady wrote: | tag 14617 notabug | close 14617 | stop |=20 | od accepts the undocumented/obsolescent -h option as an alias for -x If the "-h" is not really in core of the current program (obsolete, undocumented), it would be nice if program could displat this on STDERR to help users: od -h Warning: obsolete option, interpreted as -x. Did you mean --help? ... Jari From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 14 06:07:44 2013 Received: (at 14617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2013 10:07:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43279 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnQv0-00018c-DE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:07:43 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:55270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnQux-000186-IU for 14617@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:07:40 -0400 Received: from int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5EA7QDo000932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:07:26 -0400 Received: from [10.36.116.100] (ovpn-116-100.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.100]) by int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5EA7Nsm015193 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: <51BAEB5A.8040506@draigBrady.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:07:22 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E1draig_Brady?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jari.aalto@cante.net Subject: Re: bug#14617: od - Please add -h option References: <87ppvp5dde.fsf@picasso.cante.net> <51BAD8C6.8090602@draigBrady.com> <20130614091654.GE21799@picasso.cante.net> In-Reply-To: <20130614091654.GE21799@picasso.cante.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.22 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14617 Cc: 14617@debbugs.gnu.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E1draig_Brady_=3CP=40draigBrady=2Ecom=3E?=@cante.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) On 06/14/2013 10:16 AM, jari.aalto@cante.net wrote: > On 2013-06-14 09:48, Pádraig Brady wrote: > | tag 14617 notabug > | close 14617 > | stop > | > | od accepts the undocumented/obsolescent -h option as an alias for -x > > If the "-h" is not really in core of the current program (obsolete, > undocumented), it would be nice if program could displat this on > STDERR to help users: > > od -h > Warning: obsolete option, interpreted as -x. Did you mean --help? > ... A fair suggestion, though we usually restrict warning messages to options that are scheduled to be removed in future. Without this warning, would probably resort to the man page, when there was no output from -h Also the intersection of od users that wouldn't know about --help would be very small I'd guess, so I'm inclined to leave things as they are now. thanks, Pádraig. From unknown Tue Jun 24 06:53:27 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator