From unknown Sun Aug 17 04:15:14 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#146 <146@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#146 <146@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.60; scratch buffer initial text Reply-To: bug#146 <146@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 11:15:14 +0000 retitle 146 23.0.60; scratch buffer initial text reassign 146 emacs submitter 146 "Drew Adams" severity 146 normal thanks From drew.adams@oracle.com Wed Apr 16 15:10:48 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Apr 2008 22:10:48 +0000 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com (agminet01.oracle.com [141.146.126.228]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m3GMAjuQ027630 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:46 -0700 Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m3GMAcGY023469; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:10:39 -0500 Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m3G2pGxx000967; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:10:38 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3651851651208383834; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:34 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:33 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Cc: Subject: 23.0.60; scratch buffer initial text Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:35 -0700 Message-ID: <004b01c8a00e$b2242a40$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcigDrHQLhWLz1QzSX+QoAn67p0RZQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE This is the current text: ;; This buffer is for notes you don't want to save, and for Lisp evaluation. ;; If you want to create a file, visit that file with C-x C-f, ;; then enter the text in that file's own buffer. For newbies, it's not clear that you can "visit that file" for a file that does not yet exist. Also, the last part about "file's own buffer" is not clear. And the emphasis should be on Lisp evaluation here and the fact that this buffer is not saved. How about something like this instead: ;; This buffer is a scratch pad for evaluating Lisp expressions or ;; jotting down text that you don't want to save. ;; If you want a note pad for text that you might want to save, use ;; `C-x C-f' to open a new file buffer. Enter the text there and save ;; it using `C-x C-s'. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-04-04 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From cyd@stupidchicken.com Thu Apr 17 11:09:17 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,ONEWORD autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Apr 2008 18:09:17 +0000 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m3HI9ElE006685 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:09:15 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 653AA4E4AD; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Close Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:05:19 -0400 Message-ID: <878wzc2w80.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii close 146 close 147 thanks From unknown Sun Aug 17 04:15:14 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # A New Hope # A log time ago, in a galaxy far, far away # something happened. # # Magically this resulted in the following # action being taken, but this fake control # message doesn't tell you why it happened # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From rgm@gnu.org Sat Dec 13 14:53:17 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.0000 Tokens: new, 20; hammy, 47; neutral, 45; spammy, 0. spammytokens: hammytokens:0.000-+--23060, 0.000-+--23.0.60, 0.000-+--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-+--H*r:140.186.70, 0.000-+--H*r:ip*140.186.70.10 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Dec 2008 22:53:17 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mBDMr9RX025775; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:53:10 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LBdLY-000423-EN; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:52:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18756.15532.394942.65330@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:52:28 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 1564@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1564: 23.0.60; bug #146 is still a bug In-Reply-To: <007501c95d6c$bf7bc2e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <007501c95d6c$bf7bc2e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: magenta X-Ran: uAhw9j"^Z^My&?U%aihZ;S4A|:la2G{5q+_^,8D/Yj\:NV-*iZyEKD60z6HH2Bi?`|3_!M X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 unarchive 146 forcemerge 146 1564 stop Drew Adams wrote (on Sat, 13 Dec 2008 at 13:50 -0800): > Bug #146 was apparently closed, but the text in *scratch* still has > the same problems (the text is the same as before). Interpret that to mean we disagree with your suggestion. From unknown Sun Aug 17 04:15:14 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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