From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:20:08 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#146: 23.0.60; scratch buffer initial text Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 146@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 146 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.120838384827636 (code B ref -1); Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:20:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Apr 2008 22:10:48 +0000 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com (agminet01.oracle.com [141.146.126.228]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m3GMAjuQ027630 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:46 -0700 Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m3GMAcGY023469; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:10:39 -0500 Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m3G2pGxx000967; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:10:38 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3651851651208383834; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:34 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:33 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Cc: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:10:35 -0700 Message-ID: <004b01c8a00e$b2242a40$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcigDrHQLhWLz1QzSX+QoAn67p0RZQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE This is the current text: ;; This buffer is for notes you don't want to save, and for Lisp evaluation. ;; If you want to create a file, visit that file with C-x C-f, ;; then enter the text in that file's own buffer. For newbies, it's not clear that you can "visit that file" for a file that does not yet exist. Also, the last part about "file's own buffer" is not clear. And the emphasis should be on Lisp evaluation here and the fact that this buffer is not saved. How about something like this instead: ;; This buffer is a scratch pad for evaluating Lisp expressions or ;; jotting down text that you don't want to save. ;; If you want a note pad for text that you might want to save, use ;; `C-x C-f' to open a new file buffer. Enter the text there and save ;; it using `C-x C-s'. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-04-04 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 20 14:04:47 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2010 19:04:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXfrC-00020i-RA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:04:47 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXfrB-00020Z-K6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:04:46 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXfr7-0000FO-A7; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:04:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19287.21449.256466.368729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:04:41 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: black X-Ran: +=@8]E,Om4GeDZqC7V`tI3.u\O&7;bQ,eAQfQN\[O=A}Fjf`Xt8$UHvK0y<.ZYnn List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) reassign 132 emacs21 unarchive 146 unarchive 147 merge 146 147