From unknown Sat Aug 16 15:51:59 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14496 <14496@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14496 <14496@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun doesn't work Reply-To: bug#14496 <14496@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 22:51:59 +0000 retitle 14496 cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun doesn't work reassign 14496 emacs,cc-mode submitter 14496 Glenn Morris severity 14496 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 28 21:57:43 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2013 01:57:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38420 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UhVe3-0007UH-Ae for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 May 2013 21:57:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46199 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UhVe0-0007U9-JV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 May 2013 21:57:41 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UhVcg-0004XA-OU; Tue, 28 May 2013 21:56:18 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun doesn't work X-Spook: SAFE Noriega supercomputer BCCI Albright spies USCODE X-Ran: W%,yp*;09u`p{q6ErS/>q~[$^\Lx[23^!&`0k_>=]=HS"t<;gLczkw?)/([[Aq'xM7$amy X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 21:56:18 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) Package: emacs,cc-mode Version: 24.1 cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun hasn't worked for 2+ years (Emacs 24.1 onwards), since it calls cc-bytecomp-ignore-obsolete, which uses byte-compile-obsolete, which was removed 2011-04-01. Since no-one has complained (and a web-search shows zero apparent users of cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun), please can it just be removed. IMO most of the rest of cc-bytecomp should also be removed. cc-bytecomp-defun is replaced by the standard `declare-function', which works since Emacs 23.1 (and is defined in 22.2 onwards as a compat stub). cc-bytecomp-defvar is replaced by `(defvar foo)' with no init value. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 29 02:30:44 2013 Received: (at 14496) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2013 06:30:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38717 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UhZuC-0000sV-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 02:30:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51553 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UhZu9-0000sK-5v for 14496@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 02:30:38 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UhZsn-0005q2-7G; Wed, 29 May 2013 02:29:13 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 14496@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14496: cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun doesn't work References: X-Spook: ASDIC satellite imagery Lexis-Nexis class struggle X-Ran: D-h@gE0tQ~RX{gvVweLs2u4t>*Ru|iH1##|b0PE*;Tt<)fErnulz3Ar<]z;E>t%,]`[H)G X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 02:29:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 28 May 2013 21:56:18 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14496 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) Glenn Morris wrote: > cc-bytecomp-defun is replaced by the standard `declare-function', which > works since Emacs 23.1 (and is defined in 22.2 onwards as a compat stub). > > cc-bytecomp-defvar is replaced by `(defvar foo)' with no init value. PS I'd be happy to make those changes if they are acceptable. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 29 09:16:02 2013 Received: (at 14496) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2013 13:16:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39398 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UhgEU-00081H-2Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 09:16:02 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:1949) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UhgES-00080q-LR for 14496@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 09:16:01 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFMCpOt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kLodwBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFMCpOt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kLodwBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="15066540" Received: from 76-10-147-173.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.147.173]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 29 May 2013 09:14:25 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2B62562E19; Wed, 29 May 2013 09:14:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#14496: cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun doesn't work Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:14:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 29 May 2013 02:29:13 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14496 Cc: 14496@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >> cc-bytecomp-defun is replaced by the standard `declare-function', which >> works since Emacs 23.1 (and is defined in 22.2 onwards as a compat stub). >> cc-bytecomp-defvar is replaced by `(defvar foo)' with no init value. > PS I'd be happy to make those changes if they are acceptable. I use the appended code for cc-bytecomp.el (plus the standard boilerplate at beginning/end, of course ;-). Note that with that code, I get some extra warnings. The reason is that cc-mode (especially via cc-lang) is initialized in a tortured way, which calls the byte-compiler explicitly. IIRC some of the problem is that if you compile a code like (defvar foo) (eval-when-compile (byte-compile '(lambda (x) (+ x foo)))) the compiler will warn you about an unknown `foo': the defvar does add `foo' to byte-compile-bound-variables, but byte-compile begins by re-binding byte-compile-bound-variables to nil. IIUC cc-bytecomp-defvar tries to address this problem with a major-ugly-hack. I think a lot of the rest is trying to solve similar things. A better solution would be to rethink the way cc-lang works so that cc-mode doesn't need to call byte-compile explicitly. Stefan (defmacro cc-require (cc-part) `(require ,cc-part)) (defmacro cc-provide (feature) `(provide ,feature)) (defmacro cc-load (cc-part) `(load ,cc-part nil t nil)) (defmacro cc-require-when-compile (cc-part) `(require ,cc-part)) (defmacro cc-external-require (feature) `(require ,feature)) (defmacro cc-bytecomp-defvar (var) `(defvar ,var)) (defmacro cc-bytecomp-defun (fun) `(declare-function ,fun unspecified)) (defmacro cc-bytecomp-obsolete-var (symbol) ()) (defmacro cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun (symbol) ()) (defmacro cc-bytecomp-boundp (symbol) `(boundp ,symbol)) (defmacro cc-bytecomp-fboundp (symbol) `(fboundp ,symbol)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 31 13:40:57 2013 Received: (at 14496) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2013 17:40:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44897 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UiTJx-00011W-6T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 May 2013 13:40:57 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43803 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UiTJu-00011N-Ql for 14496@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 May 2013 13:40:55 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UiTIL-0007Ab-Oy; Fri, 31 May 2013 13:39:17 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 14496@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14496: cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun doesn't work References: X-Spook: INS spy Bosnia CIDA BCCI EuroFed Echelon ASIO X-Ran: t[Xphl+LU>qQJrucj0K6i7c[z2Na=%P!)_1hvncrELhkb;XOK6$W}VqBO,{>grs"Q{6Q{u X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:39:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 29 May 2013 02:29:13 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14496 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) PPS, In Emacs, cc-bytecomp-defun seems unecessary since Emacs 21.1. It mainly seems to be used for things like: ;; Silence the compiler. (cc-bytecomp-defun set-keymap-parents) ; XEmacs (if (cc-bytecomp-fboundp 'set-keymap-parents) (set-keymap-parents map c-mode-base-map)) to silence a compilation warning about set-keymap-parents not being known. Since 21.1, the Emacs byte-compiler is smart enough to do that anyway for function calls behind fboundp tests. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 31 13:48:32 2013 Received: (at 14496) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2013 17:48:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44906 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UiTRI-0001HZ-8I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 May 2013 13:48:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43931 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UiTRF-0001HR-Tq for 14496@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 May 2013 13:48:31 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UiTPg-00082J-CU; Fri, 31 May 2013 13:46:52 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 14496@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14496: cc-bytecomp-obsolete-fun doesn't work References: X-Spook: Legion of Doom Mafia sniper encryption halcon Indigo X-Ran: ,aNQZ-CE*)QcBc(.I\tTl8/L4%UV'pvBm:.3P+)w,#dYszH.=x6EVF({;sYkv9&Vmm[jbq X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:46:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 31 May 2013 13:39:17 -0400") Message-ID: <7y5avnisz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14496 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.7 (------) Glenn Morris wrote: > Since 21.1, the Emacs byte-compiler is smart enough to do that anyway Correction, 22.1. Anyway, "since a long time ago". 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