From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically Resent-From: Barry OReilly Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14408@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13686230477730 (code B ref -1); Wed, 15 May 2013 13:05:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2013 13:04:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45506 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbNH-00020d-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:04:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40195) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbNF-000206-0K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:04:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbN0-0004Fz-HK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34366) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbN0-0004Fq-Df for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbMv-00078m-HD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbMu-0004EY-7m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:45 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.219.44]:51203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbMu-0004ES-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:44 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n12so2131613oag.3 for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6Q2QGMo4UguiwwzbwweVeOyHewDzg0ZFszgpszboB9Q=; b=bo0IPJGpHpbUcXsgF/pZCfsAArOkYkv01xX02RzueSYSw8KOtBB66VuzdCpW6yboD4 g6HVQu2/a+1qruJalG971+kvYtnMCZhU/btAJHfAz2AuD3gMAku/lxpBFd7HZIhESu0D WBej4iZH5r2C+p4dxsPhfcni5BX9iVv3BsZs6SrtN96lHS1OrVVtbEUrx95ek73YD13p l313iFs3AbJsw1HAjABnHKv5NaGKRjvkca7WXgckJr99E+osLjESJTSSD9eSITeRcS65 HlhhayBPeMu95nrPL5Sn4jMeGrZQhpvDX8knNvzlz654I4BwGl8NpVb2q2/H0FJo3DVu CjEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.59.74 with SMTP id x10mr18878959oeq.48.1368623023348; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.93.68 with HTTP; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Barry OReilly Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) --089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In Emacs 24.3, I can put the *Messages* and *scratch* buffers side by side, call eval-last-sexp on message calls in *scratch*, and see the message automatically appear in *Messages*. Using Emacs from trunk, *Messages* is not updated with the message until I either "C-x o" to it or cause some other message to appear (such as "End of buffer" message). --089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In Emacs 24.3, I can put the *Messages* and *scratch* buffers side by side,= call eval-last-sexp on message calls in *scratch*, and see the message aut= omatically appear in *Messages*.

Using Emacs from trunk, *Messages* = is not updated with the message until I either "C-x o" to it or c= ause some other message to appear (such as "End of buffer" messag= e).

--089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb-- From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14408: Acknowledgement (24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically) Resent-From: Barry OReilly Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 15:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14408@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14408.13687186903270 (code B ref 14408); Thu, 16 May 2013 15:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 14408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2013 15:38:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud0Fu-0000qg-1Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 11:38:10 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.219.53]:51535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud0Fs-0000qM-B8 for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 11:38:09 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id g12so3946223oah.12 for <14408@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 16 May 2013 08:37:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oafGF67sMRSaKhO+HPpSPQiLuv6F84bTHQ4QdoQBjEM=; b=mwbo5evbsk0BU49kyhXS8VcXoPnKjaVEMbqEct7uvGohnr37pKNk4oYzk6OF0bgUxZ +XgD9bizU8SZejX0g5zYFbgBTk6olhcCM+TmmnZ2aysjbfPqH1poaqNRsS61+cOiDRlg v10Iwzext+riGXFNPssNl3PzFUoGwvkkoKCrhlv8VszaBHlzUQGHqUX6yr/u6KKf6Mg5 8LTsO87PsNdxGHysWfEWnyNBF2fACv6t+6rjLsl/i9dwX7Ct8IjwxsjEwsIO8zgZanP9 2JOWBmTQ4W3pxHqgqmaIaDlr7takg6FGl99VVlEU15P7R9DiZcDaBMVIzUDCbis7tXA3 QD1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.86.6 with SMTP id l6mr19834498obz.6.1368718671814; Thu, 16 May 2013 08:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.93.68 with HTTP; Thu, 16 May 2013 08:37:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 11:37:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: Barry OReilly Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149c4683b299e04dcd7a6ca X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --089e0149c4683b299e04dcd7a6ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Git bisected the Emacs repo at Savannah to: 046fb9fbdc0ee0c26e0063ce5ee94bead46ee98d is the first bad commit commit 046fb9fbdc0ee0c26e0063ce5ee94bead46ee98d Author: Dmitry Antipov Date: Tue Dec 11 13:51:12 2012 +0400 * buffer.c (Fset_buffer_multibyte): Do not force redisplay if changed buffer is not shown in a window. * insdel.c (prepare_to_modify_buffer): Likewise. * window.c (replace_buffer_in_windows_safely): Do nothing if buffer is not shown in a window. (Fforce_window_update): Likewise if string or buffer argument is passed. :040000 040000 c3cd9f89a3926ca04ecfee03ae667056986ba352 385c925b8bcfcc59262a140e4ce8701b20eb7265 M src --089e0149c4683b299e04dcd7a6ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Git bisected the Emacs repo at Savannah to:

046fb9fbdc0ee0c26e0063ce= 5ee94bead46ee98d is the first bad commit
commit 046fb9fbdc0ee0c26e0063ce= 5ee94bead46ee98d
Author: Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru>
Date:=A0=A0 Tue Dec 11 13:51:12 2012 +0400

=A0=A0=A0 * buffer.c (Fse= t_buffer_multibyte): Do not force redisplay
=A0=A0=A0 if changed buffer = is not shown in a window.
=A0=A0=A0 * insdel.c (prepare_to_modify_buffer= ): Likewise.
=A0=A0=A0 * window.c (replace_buffer_in_windows_safely): Do= nothing
=A0=A0=A0 if buffer is not shown in a window.
=A0=A0=A0 (Fforce_window_u= pdate): Likewise if string or buffer argument
=A0=A0=A0 is passed.
:040000 040000 c3cd9f89a3926ca04ecfee03ae667056986ba352 385c925b8bcfcc592= 62a140e4ce8701b20eb7265 M=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 src

--089e0149c4683b299e04dcd7a6ca-- From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Barry OReilly Cc: 14408@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14408.136872507018589 (code B ref 14408); Thu, 16 May 2013 17:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 14408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2013 17:24:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud1un-0004pl-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 13:24:29 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:41368) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud1uj-0004pT-CI for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 13:24:26 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MMW00800IXHXU00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 20:24:07 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MMW008B9J06TR40@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 16 May 2013 20:24:07 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 20:24:06 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 11:37:51 -0400 > From: Barry OReilly > > Git bisected the Emacs repo at Savannah to: > > 046fb9fbdc0ee0c26e0063ce5ee94bead46ee98d is the first bad commit > commit 046fb9fbdc0ee0c26e0063ce5ee94bead46ee98d > Author: Dmitry Antipov > Date: Tue Dec 11 13:51:12 2012 +0400 > > * buffer.c (Fset_buffer_multibyte): Do not force redisplay > if changed buffer is not shown in a window. > * insdel.c (prepare_to_modify_buffer): Likewise. > * window.c (replace_buffer_in_windows_safely): Do nothing > if buffer is not shown in a window. > (Fforce_window_update): Likewise if string or buffer argument > is passed. Could you show a precise recipe for reproducing this, starting with "emacs -Q"? I tried to reproduce with today's trunk, but couldn't. Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "side by side" or don't invoke eval-last-sexp as you do. Does the problem depend on the frame/window size? Does it appear in "emacs -nw" as well as in GUI sessions? And what OS is that? Thanks. From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Barry OReilly , 14408@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14408.136872543319495 (code B ref 14408); Thu, 16 May 2013 17:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 14408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2013 17:30:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47654 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud20f-00054N-Bq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 13:30:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52524 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud20c-00054D-RK for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 13:30:32 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud20Q-0004lY-AT; Thu, 16 May 2013 13:30:18 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Leitrim Janet Reno enigma lynch computer terrorism George X-Ran: g(RdDYJE"=DoA~9gu#ejO]$mI:VWZ[[r4z]&*(f3!}WO/%O;m^{YG4W>s/r]ikZ{>t?@1s X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 13:30:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 16 May 2013 20:24:06 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Could you show a precise recipe for reproducing this, starting with > "emacs -Q"? I tried to reproduce with today's trunk, but couldn't. > Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "side by side" or don't > invoke eval-last-sexp as you do. Current trunk, GNU/Linux, Lucid toolkit: emacs -Q C-x 3 C-h e In scratch, enter "1" and press C-x C-e. No "1" appears in Messages. Press C-x o to select Messages. Now "1" appears. > Does the problem depend on the frame/window size? Dunno. > Does it appear in "emacs -nw" as well as in GUI sessions? Yes. > And what OS is that? RHEL6. From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically Resent-From: Barry OReilly Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14408@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14408.136872775924925 (code B ref 14408); Thu, 16 May 2013 18:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 14408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2013 18:09:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud2cB-0006Tx-2R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:09:19 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com ([209.85.219.52]:59300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud2c7-0006Tc-WB for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:09:16 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id h1so4041572oag.39 for <14408@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 16 May 2013 11:08:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=64v13LiSe1es1bx++31MNg22ymlgl70Bp5OvIuuZMbA=; b=RwXkchdkXfxvejEKj/Kd4/5Xneb6xX1VQEZ1k5vKDdRU1SKZX+KnJZ+i9WoKMaeFB/ BjX/GIW+k5o055dsz7u2IW/rDv9wzQn8Mz3hAMQSFivKzQbOrAEHRk6GcP4fZDPQ370z s06koBfwJwTFOWWxcdd/caafQQePsXK8by7aRIDNhN0RBxhiGE5xnMToe0aEIM+YZFkl htM2f2JuDQN3RY6I1EBmkeVaAgERLiWf96P3JFExojtLDazbtspwCJQyXeDJLPj+kT3O 4KsJOoStUOWcSKw3QPXFm3oHmS4EmGLXNWTLnNvjtnIF+zf43yyCjvlwBVPgT2ed4jYF X4lQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.129.4 with SMTP id ns4mr10388627obb.22.1368727739006; Thu, 16 May 2013 11:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.93.68 with HTTP; Thu, 16 May 2013 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 14:08:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: Barry OReilly Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1fc00ad83fa04dcd9c258 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --e89a8fb1fc00ad83fa04dcd9c258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking further, there are a couple circumstances where it won't reproduce: =95 There needs to be newlines after the message call to reproduce =95 eval-last-sexp needs to be invoked through a local keymap Let ~/emacs-local-key.el contain: (local-set-key (kbd "") 'eval-last-sexp) Or you can do so in an emacs-lisp-mode-hook. Steps: =95 Run: ./src/emacs -Q --load ~/emacs-local-key.el =95 C-x 3 =95 M-x buffer-menu =95 Select *Messages* (now left window is *Messages* right is *scratch*) =95 C-x o =95 Input: (message "a") =95 Enter a couple times so as there are new lines after the message cal= l =95 Move point to after the close paren above =95 Use f5 to eval-last-sexp, no change in *Messages* =95 C-x o =95 Now all the "a" messages appear I tried sizing the window to the left and to the right, still can reproduce= . Using emacs -nw I can reproduce it. I'm on RHEL 5 OS. --e89a8fb1fc00ad83fa04dcd9c258 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking further, there are a couple circumstances where it won't reprod= uce:
=A0=A0 =95 There needs to be newlines after the message call to rep= roduce
=A0=A0 =95 eval-last-sexp needs to be invoked through a local key= map

Let ~/emacs-local-key.el contain:
=A0=A0 (local-set-key (kbd "<f= 5>") 'eval-last-sexp)
Or you can do so in an emacs-lisp-mode= -hook.

Steps:
=A0=A0 =95 Run: ./src/emacs -Q --load ~/emacs-local= -key.el
=A0=A0 =95 C-x 3
=A0=A0 =95 M-x buffer-menu
=A0=A0 =95 Select *Messag= es* (now left window is *Messages* right is *scratch*)
=A0=A0 =95 C-x o<= br>=A0=A0 =95 Input: (message "a")
=A0=A0 =95 Enter a couple t= imes so as there are new lines after the message call
=A0=A0 =95 Move point to after the close paren above
=A0=A0 =95 Use f5 t= o eval-last-sexp, no change in *Messages*
=A0=A0 =95 C-x o
=A0=A0 =95= Now all the "a" messages appear

I tried sizing the window= to the left and to the right, still can reproduce.

Using emacs -nw I can reproduce it.

I'm on RHEL 5 OS.

--e89a8fb1fc00ad83fa04dcd9c258-- From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Glenn Morris'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" Cc: 'Barry OReilly' , 14408@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14408.136872852030629 (code B ref 14408); Thu, 16 May 2013 18:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 14408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2013 18:22:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud2oR-0007xy-Ga for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:22:00 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:25421) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud2oO-0007xi-VZ for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:21:58 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r4GILcUj025272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 16 May 2013 18:21:39 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4GILbIj020120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 16 May 2013 18:21:38 GMT Received: from abhmt105.oracle.com (abhmt105.oracle.com [141.146.116.57]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4GILbuR020116; Thu, 16 May 2013 18:21:37 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 16 May 2013 11:21:37 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 11:21:36 -0700 Message-ID: <158A5425749B416580EB7D02B566EB1B@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac5SWySbD4qT70QRSmayHpfWGkRttgABuuSg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) > Current trunk, GNU/Linux, Lucid toolkit: > emacs -Q > C-x 3 > C-h e > > In scratch, enter "1" and press C-x C-e. No "1" appears in Messages. > Press C-x o to select Messages. Now "1" appears. Confirmed on MS Windows also, for this build: In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-05-14 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 112586 juri@jurta.org-20130514233814-nnkh1ymiqgoq2fk6 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Barry OReilly Subject: bug#14408: closed (Re: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically) Message-ID: References: <83wqqysrhx.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 14408 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 14408@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:36:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1368729363-32636-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1368729363-32636-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 14408@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 14408: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D14408 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1368729363-32636-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 14408-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2013 18:35:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud31F-0008Sn-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:35:13 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:59718) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud31D-0008SZ-Cf for 14408-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:35:12 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MMW00E00LSWDU00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 14408-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 21:34:52 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MMW00E2IMA30BB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 16 May 2013 21:34:51 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 21:34:50 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83wqqysrhx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14408-done Cc: gundaetiapo@gmail.com, 14408-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Barry OReilly , 14408@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 13:30:18 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Could you show a precise recipe for reproducing this, starting with > > "emacs -Q"? I tried to reproduce with today's trunk, but couldn't. > > Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "side by side" or don't > > invoke eval-last-sexp as you do. > > Current trunk, GNU/Linux, Lucid toolkit: > emacs -Q > C-x 3 > C-h e > > In scratch, enter "1" and press C-x C-e. No "1" appears in Messages. > Press C-x o to select Messages. Now "1" appears. Thanks. This is now fixed in trunk revision 112612. ------------=_1368729363-32636-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2013 13:04:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45506 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbNH-00020d-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:04:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40195) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbNF-000206-0K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:04:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbN0-0004Fz-HK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34366) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbN0-0004Fq-Df for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbMv-00078m-HD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbMu-0004EY-7m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:45 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.219.44]:51203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcbMu-0004ES-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:44 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n12so2131613oag.3 for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6Q2QGMo4UguiwwzbwweVeOyHewDzg0ZFszgpszboB9Q=; b=bo0IPJGpHpbUcXsgF/pZCfsAArOkYkv01xX02RzueSYSw8KOtBB66VuzdCpW6yboD4 g6HVQu2/a+1qruJalG971+kvYtnMCZhU/btAJHfAz2AuD3gMAku/lxpBFd7HZIhESu0D WBej4iZH5r2C+p4dxsPhfcni5BX9iVv3BsZs6SrtN96lHS1OrVVtbEUrx95ek73YD13p l313iFs3AbJsw1HAjABnHKv5NaGKRjvkca7WXgckJr99E+osLjESJTSSD9eSITeRcS65 HlhhayBPeMu95nrPL5Sn4jMeGrZQhpvDX8knNvzlz654I4BwGl8NpVb2q2/H0FJo3DVu CjEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.59.74 with SMTP id x10mr18878959oeq.48.1368623023348; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.93.68 with HTTP; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:03:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically From: Barry OReilly To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) --089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In Emacs 24.3, I can put the *Messages* and *scratch* buffers side by side, call eval-last-sexp on message calls in *scratch*, and see the message automatically appear in *Messages*. Using Emacs from trunk, *Messages* is not updated with the message until I either "C-x o" to it or cause some other message to appear (such as "End of buffer" message). --089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In Emacs 24.3, I can put the *Messages* and *scratch* buffers side by side,= call eval-last-sexp on message calls in *scratch*, and see the message aut= omatically appear in *Messages*.

Using Emacs from trunk, *Messages* = is not updated with the message until I either "C-x o" to it or c= ause some other message to appear (such as "End of buffer" messag= e).

--089e0116143623637a04dcc161cb-- ------------=_1368729363-32636-1-- From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:43:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14408: 24.3.50; *Messages* buffer no longer updates automatically Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14408 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Barry OReilly Cc: 14408@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14408-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14408.1368729479566 (code B ref 14408); Thu, 16 May 2013 18:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 14408) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2013 18:37:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47745 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud33u-000095-Lc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:37:59 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:39568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ud33q-00008i-NA for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 14:37:56 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MMW00C00MCCQ300@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14408@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 May 2013 21:37:36 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MMW00CNXMEOGG90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Thu, 16 May 2013 21:37:36 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 21:37:35 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: Message-id: <83txm2srdc.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <831u96u9c9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 14:08:58 -0400 > From: Barry OReilly > Cc: 14408@debbugs.gnu.org >=20 > =95 Run: ./src/emacs -Q --load ~/emacs-local-key.el > =95 C-x 3 > =95 M-x buffer-menu > =95 Select *Messages* (now left window is *Messages* right is *s= cratch*) > =95 C-x o > =95 Input: (message "a") > =95 Enter a couple times so as there are new lines after the mes= sage call > =95 Move point to after the close paren above > =95 Use f5 to eval-last-sexp, no change in *Messages* > =95 C-x o > =95 Now all the "a" messages appear Thanks. I fixed this a few minutes ago.