From unknown Tue Jun 24 10:32:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14398: 24.3.50; Customize: `Revert...' and `Apply' Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 14:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14398 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14398@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.136854135615572 (code B ref -1); Tue, 14 May 2013 14:23:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2013 14:22:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcG7c-000432-Sz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:22:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcG7V-00042j-Q0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:22:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcG6x-0005r8-Es for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:43148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcG6x-0005r3-CS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56383) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcG6r-00077V-Uv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcG6q-0005pd-Qg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:45 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:40543) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcG6q-0005pT-KF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:44 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r4EELfc0005507 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 14:21:42 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4EELfCg002856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 14:21:42 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4EELeMH008648 for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 14:21:41 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:21:40 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 07:21:40 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac5QrlnM0aHjWdkURaeeelpI+uz/eg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) 1. The `Revert...' menu items should be controled by either :enable or :visible. It makes no sense to show a user an active menu item `Undo Edits in Customization Buffer' if there have been no edits. After a user clicks this, undoing any edits, this menu item should disappear or be dimmed. Similarly for other menu items. 2. `Apply' is not helpful as is. The name does not sufficiently indicate what it does (apply what? to what?). The help echo is also not helpful enough: `Apply settings (for current session only)'. What settings? And again, if no settings have been changed (edited) then this button should not even be available. Its presence when it is a no-op just confuses. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-05-10 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 112542 rgm@gnu.org-20130510102119-fklj7xlajezey0tr Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From unknown Tue Jun 24 10:32:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14398: 24.3.50; Customize: `Revert...' and `Apply' References: In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Mauro Aranda Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 13:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14398 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 14398@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14398-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14398.160441181410815 (code B ref 14398); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 13:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 14398) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2020 13:56:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43868 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZwnt-0002oH-Pg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 08:56:54 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com ([209.85.128.47]:36237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZwnq-0002nt-Uq for 14398@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 08:56:51 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id e2so12884370wme.1 for <14398@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 05:56:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X8zTsKElb+AMYbUJeR+3/zjYyFzcYzYcTKlaWQ9DzzI=; b=mNQdx77ASjKAlKgAmBFGbiBk6ZRpW6GYtGdt63ZyuzZzGwn2unGXLJgsy7kxISW1Tz gUB91vxRzUzSH/lEKXPWHCvliUxWDypGDmWmsC/QIrjn/VcCgBYpvSgOKk0dXIXB5KAr yJhrYkBdE3+779xNe36cMj6woDbNuGUYgbgviUuEJUK1ZxeeUkoM/okVIjZfqYRutap4 H+qp1WlqMib8hAbBUn1biaMTCCvLTKnhBRb/qUXZJXPeuzDgd+kBTxdNNaoniiPD4yQr DsphGVoS8s/pr9FDE5nQ+RBFoKAOOqib92kM2DU6Sbk1m6yPzuwwUXRachQ+fbcSNkwt fqZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X8zTsKElb+AMYbUJeR+3/zjYyFzcYzYcTKlaWQ9DzzI=; b=JtCfBZrRwKnETjgNZHgqvxQYt7WhidsiXQud+APUohLuOmlUC0+jzzgY3/4nbJDUuw fUuANgdKeLwsJwMg4PAUDTP+BXpKPVl/pc+KMduPwe/JgxQDfYvrDiDiD76nfIeU0dxD rGPui8RNaRj+XpQ1ZQOEPLfxxuKDU8Sj7LWF+lqXcaZY3l3Xp70Pork2zXfMkljEuPXi +I/Ln9OuZK7y43W13dA4V+w0kaB5iWxMIk7NEzsAR5TsLOKgl/ZvjXJmqOLnzvq4Kq8a Jhr2aurFsy/8gF0bdkjeRc3QTzlT0vw+/PN3rajc1pghsZpaitLTObJkFys1hhahYRLb 3A6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532NM/rsSxR5bamm8SJTFl8b6BrUio4pd6XHERbUOKgG3tItSj6w Kt0IqW3Jqe9Q4rLxzcZskNC/GY9BHFaWWMwejmw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzfCv0Xoh1XyWF175jN8tBM8XOST40l31eu/WbhS/qIE33mHjfOj94agO7BofFqrmaKmNEotw+vTuwvt9zwd0k= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:20c6:: with SMTP id g189mr3946462wmg.6.1604411804886; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 05:56:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mauro Aranda Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 10:56:32 -0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000b442df05b3343b6a" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000b442df05b3343b6a Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b442dc05b3343b68" --000000000000b442dc05b3343b68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" tags 14398 patch quit "Drew Adams" writes: > 1. The `Revert...' menu items should be controled by either :enable or > :visible. It makes no sense to show a user an active menu item `Undo > Edits in Customization Buffer' if there have been no edits. After a > user clicks this, undoing any edits, this menu item should disappear or > be dimmed. Similarly for other menu items. Now that widget-choose supports extended menus, this can be done like in Bug#4787. > 2. `Apply' is not helpful as is. The name does not sufficiently > indicate what it does (apply what? to what?). The help echo is also not > helpful enough: `Apply settings (for current session only)'. What > settings? While "Apply" might not be helpful, I think that the help-echo answers the questions. And I'd say it is evident that it talks about the settings the user is seeing in the Custom buffer at that moment. > And again, if no settings have been changed (edited) then > this button should not even be available. Its presence when it is a > no-op just confuses. Makes sense to me. And this can be easily controlled by activating and deactivating the widgets. I think that toolbar icons and menu bar items should also be enabled/disabled according to the state of the options in the Custom buffer, so I propose a patch that adds logic to do that as well. --000000000000b442dc05b3343b68 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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&qu= ot;Drew Adams" <drew.adams= @oracle.com> writes:

> 1. The `Revert...' menu items= should be controled by either :enable or
> :visible.=C2=A0 It makes = no sense to show a user an active menu item `Undo
> Edits in Customiz= ation Buffer' if there have been no edits.=C2=A0 After a
> user c= licks this, undoing any edits, this menu item should disappear or
> b= e dimmed.=C2=A0 Similarly for other menu items.

Now that widget-choo= se supports extended menus, this can be done like in
Bug#4787.

&g= t; 2. `Apply' is not helpful as is.=C2=A0 The name does not sufficientl= y
> indicate what it does (apply what? to what?).=C2=A0 The help echo= is also not
> helpful enough: `Apply settings (for current session o= nly)'.=C2=A0 What
> settings?

While "Apply" migh= t not be helpful, I think that the help-echo
answers the questions.=C2= =A0 And I'd say it is evident that it talks about
the settings the u= ser is seeing in the Custom buffer at that moment.

> And again, i= f no settings have been changed (edited) then
> this button should no= t even be available.=C2=A0 Its presence when it is a
> no-op just con= fuses.

Makes sense to me.=C2=A0 And this can be easily controlled by= activating and
deactivating the widgets.

I think that toolbar ic= ons and menu bar items should also be
enabled/disabled according to the = state of the options in the Custom
buffer, so I propose a patch that add= s logic to do that as well.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > I think that toolbar icons and menu bar items should also be > enabled/disabled according to the state of the options in the Custom > buffer, so I propose a patch that adds logic to do that as well. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > I think that toolbar icons and menu bar items should also be > enabled/disabled according to the state of the options in the Custom > buffer, so I propose a patch that adds logic to do that as well. I haven't tried the patch, but this makes sense to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 24 10:32:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14398: 24.3.50; Customize: `Revert...' and `Apply' Resent-From: Mauro Aranda Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14398 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 14398@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 14398-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14398.16044169905059 (code B ref 14398); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 15:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 14398) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2020 15:23:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46069 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZy9N-0001JX-Ox for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:23:09 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f41.google.com ([209.85.221.41]:43796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZy9M-0001JK-Of for 14398@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:23:09 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f41.google.com with SMTP id g12so18958939wrp.10 for <14398@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:23:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=I3405gmpKAuwOK5adCvyxwsTlLiXwbf16j0Gep+s9Vc=; b=SjyRVJGrz6+BDcuBcmW3+YD8dJqqFKtpXqBrHtTluyff0spe8ElSUEWUieAuU2rEbV lnRHIFr4IMkBIDU+W7XCIYjwPDwmensZa6a8kcu0QRf01qcg22xa/ciKWTP/ZppSeII4 Uvqh609pTZE5NAi0ZLg8K1cpB2v0ogcfSgCv2uorp8tFHlIMCoKm/PifXm8gHt/QcL5K kccjcDZzS/yEGP+CzQROfRRz8SOeGcMnb2g6xWFcjsfYKc1L0nADHx9rdln2pxFYlw6P SHK30ZRwwBdXrF86ZCL7rokH6mu68Hg3oR7fi1PMID7ZsfwxVcmobBxDxsxz4VJPxbnt 3Fzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=I3405gmpKAuwOK5adCvyxwsTlLiXwbf16j0Gep+s9Vc=; b=j65WIci2rHrQ+If4pV0xsEQqbx4dcUhhbx2h+wNd6R+CpAy4pFd30115BTYzYR2IWU sQtBiiPTslsmqa2CKt+FFcwomc8P4UScX9s106fKfLgzMqN6CLCHZr3LM2oLhLtOIIOm B64OXk8oxShuJ7kEFHuA9YbkTX3BFGdEj8DhJYJOkbDlIW4WmO4gCCJgK6U7L9v3gQLp toUgvd7FKSyt9fcfQ79H6uiRAsaCXDCJGTD2RFN+PdCIODKY4JGP3QugfohOAm3BMxlF Sa7RGWooFqN98DZJ7W+/Odc3GSB1viTXE9+b4LDL4jTkrIt57K4YXp2qbuvkiG4hEamk 7+RQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531RADCnYDam23OD/ZGCRoB7wu7ZP5JJSM8jdfFAhTgGA2VLhET7 7Enl0+iaW3iYUgxUVhQaB0jjUeEr+vRDLYtSE80= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxgPFsnGqP6zFykfxLvBjhY4gbisoZgO0lMUoe431tGSKzQWS42slNIB5rhIzeckQQHHjrv0sWIPmsoC8SanEA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:df03:: with SMTP id y3mr26738778wrl.70.1604416983012; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:23:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87blge4jiv.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87blge4jiv.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 12:22:50 -0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005818fa05b33570b3" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000005818fa05b33570b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> I think that toolbar icons and menu bar items should also be >> enabled/disabled according to the state of the options in the Custom >> buffer, so I propose a patch that adds logic to do that as well. > > I haven't tried the patch, but this makes sense to me. Thanks. Should I wait for further comments, or is it OK to push and see if anything comes up? I mean, I have tested the code quite a bit, but perhaps I should wait for comments about the code itself? --0000000000005818fa05b33570b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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perhaps I should wait for comments about the code itself? --0000000000005818fa05b33570b3-- From unknown Tue Jun 24 10:32:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14398: 24.3.50; Customize: `Revert...' and `Apply' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 16:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14398 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Mauro Aranda Cc: 14398@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14398-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14398.160442218021732 (code B ref 14398); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 16:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 14398) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2020 16:49:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46230 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZzV6-0005eS-DM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:49:40 -0500 Received: from aserp2130.oracle.com ([141.146.126.79]:43838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kZzV3-0005e9-UC for 14398@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:49:38 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0A3GnWkT041868; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 16:49:32 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=tP1mcT3XKbttqwnWSjAmRjPN2GuA6tt+qLdw3xLjiv8=; b=dM0gUEl0QmPacoPgsJmhnB46aVPz51ehmOw/mA6ZAqo2ouHms6UFPxyMTiq+bMesY8+V PfiA4i5nQ6Qj0mr9qlH0/n48imzpKbaHE+0DrYA2Ki7d82Tgf9RFmk9/gIts5CA8MmUN ALxAUJX307vwCQnCmLmyP0dNEpF/n3bdssp78Iub/cWk/ABLqDyTP3nA839C1gxpcPuj XCPl1vFHSkrpUW4OAfPWvXKLZquPiMnMufHElYhctj+pmzv2TNgPjvboBnYZAhkjo3aB hWeRIkzr+gvAluDAhhGhdfLCOX0eNJBNrylj89QlNTtEFBWJb+X2bO4lE2bMukJygruK uQ== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by aserp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34hhb22bgs-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 16:49:32 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0A3GenN5126927; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 16:47:31 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34jf48ra35-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 16:47:31 +0000 Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0A3GlUeq031035; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 16:47:30 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 08:47:29 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9794 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011030111 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9794 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxlogscore=999 impostorscore=0 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011030112 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Haven't tried it, but the patch looks great. I especially appreciate the fact that you adding a missing doc string. Thx. ___ FWIW - I'll incorporate those changes into my library `cus-edit+.el', which adds these three items to `custom-commands': `Consider Unchanged', `Ignore Unsaved Changes', and `Set from External Changes'. The help strings for those 3 are: "Treat changed preferences as if they were unchanged, without saving them" "Add to the `customize-unsaved-ignore' preferences, whose changes are ignored by `customize-unsaved'" "Tell Customize that all preferences changed outside it are now set" (Tried to interest Emacs in these, to no avail.) 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > Thanks. Should I wait for further comments, or is it OK to push and see > if anything comes up? 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The code looked fine to me, so just go ahead and push. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 24 10:32:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14398: 24.3.50; Customize: `Revert...' and `Apply' Resent-From: Mauro Aranda Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 22:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14398 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 14398@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 14398-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14398.16046137685783 (code B ref 14398); Thu, 05 Nov 2020 22:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 14398) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2020 22:02:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54361 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kanLD-0001VC-Qz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 17:02:48 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com ([209.85.128.51]:38690) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kanLB-0001Uo-OY for 14398@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 17:02:46 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id h62so3057991wme.3 for <14398@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 14:02:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xLvnuCnHdysf91SlOAvc2fc9T+59V1fSivfT8qO5+rk=; b=K+tR4lFk9qb63qifett7pW7Ka1UR1W8+00YnNiX+7MhqpvZy9ZZEByDNyoM0Zra6h7 OgKomw4Zk+PBDe451tXJzj8vAhkUlXYAZckaXWE1bJGVZL6Tv9H0dW3mfGZ9wj1N1noQ d/Ex+pmzV+f4E0KI406ON3SbsKMWzPtURfppBkgO7HSbUu4K611DGA4BFlFfyXapqGvl G1fYd2+gPs9oBkzfhnf9ZvDyUDQZZGb/S6Hincxw4lMh5FEdvervVco6Rt8zTvHx3e68 llpi1Gs6ewGw4eIQj2e+6UD3lz8e63feb7+gFFK6Mklow4PxAN9a/HM2Qykkhv211hZ1 Ed/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xLvnuCnHdysf91SlOAvc2fc9T+59V1fSivfT8qO5+rk=; b=oovujIGQzwlcR068kh1ksJ8mfJYxXVOJqg37QaY3f96TW1biRt0H24+VDhQeuefMP6 /mUR8lOWvDLHys5sKeznrUoAvThSqL8TzR4O8rNVEyBNjZGGQ4XQnc5InRLOw7k2xE0+ 8ADLpg7N2esgzHdPhSva9KvPkmYPW56XHsNPY/pATW5pARrvdOoWKDK+jQMclk1YwMe+ mOVJ1+9tcPYed1uvhPZoP4ECeGeSCqwreT8ukptyqWIvUeSm52cb31Zt9k3DqiqUGBsa HWvJnVF5h3SEwylYXpE49QA5jPOS2AknFLQolIRz/txig8DbQ1A0ZwOas9ok+LnSxcRM n27w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530FD2C2Gk4PKrj/N8wuk7+KE8X8F96CfEdhG32vuN0jPTbt9NiU IAxl/1wpVwYBwh5lfKJ6nPSOzK/VxB5Rsshum7M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzdBhDqAlrAOd6J1n+cziC1BVNxi+IJAhLeD+Tbr1vYZ2rxhMkmIj3aOpDM5fCVc5gGMrgvm2KEFQsyNknOFg4= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:f311:: with SMTP id q17mr4717578wmq.28.1604613759907; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 14:02:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87blge4jiv.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8kbsw7f.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87o8kbsw7f.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 19:02:26 -0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000029395005b3634177" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000029395005b3634177 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" tags 14398 fixed close 14398 28.1 quit Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> Thanks. Should I wait for further comments, or is it OK to push and see >> if anything comes up? I mean, I have tested the code quite a bit, but >> perhaps I should wait for comments about the code itself? > > The code looked fine to me, so just go ahead and push. Great, thanks. I've now pushed, and I'm closing this bug report. --00000000000029395005b3634177 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Lars I= ngebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wr= ites:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Thanks.=C2=A0 = Should I wait for further comments, or is it OK to push and see
>>= if anything comes up? I mean, I have tested the code quite a bit, but
&= gt;> perhaps I should wait for comments about the code itself?
>> The code looked fine to me, so just go ahead and push.

Great,= thanks.=C2=A0 I've now pushed, and I'm closing this bug report. --00000000000029395005b3634177--